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FBI investigating whether Russian money went to NRA to help Trump

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Well, isn't this just special?

FBI investigating whether Russian money went to NRA to help Trump

WASHINGTON
The FBI is investigating whether a top Russian banker with ties to the Kremlin illegally funneled money to the National Rifle Association to help Donald Trump win the presidency, two sources familiar with the matter have told McClatchy.

FBI counterintelligence investigators have focused on the activities of Alexander Torshin, the deputy governor of Russia’s central bank who is known for his close relationships with both Russian President Vladimir Putin and the NRA, the sources said.

It is illegal to use foreign money to influence federal elections.

It’s unclear how long the Torshin inquiry has been ongoing, but the news comes as Justice Department Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s sweeping investigation of Russian meddling in the 2016 election, including whether the Kremlin colluded with Trump’s campaign, has been heating up.
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Where did the money come from? A group, well known for its 'conservative' ideology, somehow acquired enough money to spend THREE TIMES as much in 2016 as it did in 2012.
the NRA reported spending a record $55 million on the 2016 elections, including $30 million to support Trump – triple what the group devoted to backing Republican Mitt Romney in the 2012 presidential race. Most of that was money was spent by an arm of the NRA that is not required to disclose its donors.
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Hooray for the Citizens United decision -- as long as you don't give a **** about who is buying politicians these days.

I'm sure some of the usual standard-bearers for the right wing will immediately bring in George Soros, although they will have next to nothing to support their claims -- you can't change the minds of the True Believers no matter how much actual information one provides.
 
Somerville said:
Well, isn't this just special?



Where did the money come from? A group, well known for its 'conservative' ideology, somehow acquired enough money to spend THREE TIMES as much in 2016 as it did in 2012.


Hooray for the Citizens United decision -- as long as you don't give a **** about who is buying politicians these days.

I'm sure some of the usual standard-bearers for the right wing will immediately bring in George Soros, although they will have next to nothing to support their claims -- you can't change the minds of the True Believers no matter how much actual information one provides.
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What law states that it is against the law for foreign companies to donate to private groups? What law states that it is against the law for private groups to lobby on behalf of a politician/cause? Where is the proof that TRUMP was personally involved in directing the funding of the NRA? Where is the proof that Trump had in-depth knowledge of every single donator to the NRA?

That's the connection you need to make for your "RUSSIA COLLUSION" conspiracy theory/time wasting garbage to make sense.
 
reinoe said:
What law states that it is against the law for foreign companies to donate to private groups? What law states that it is against the law for private groups to lobby on behalf of a politician/cause? Where is the proof that TRUMP was personally involved in directing the funding of the NRA? Where is the proof that Trump had in-depth knowledge of every single donator to the NRA?

That's the connection you need to make for your "RUSSIA COLLUSION" conspiracy theory/time wasting garbage to make sense.
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I find it rather delicious, how Bobby Mueller and his team have some people soiling themselves in fear.
 
reinoe said:
What law states that it is against the law for foreign companies to donate to private groups? What law states that it is against the law for private groups to lobby on behalf of a politician/cause? Where is the proof that TRUMP was personally involved in directing the funding of the NRA? Where is the proof that Trump had in-depth knowledge of every single donator to the NRA?

That's the connection you need to make for your "RUSSIA COLLUSION" conspiracy theory/time wasting garbage to make sense.
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Rant and rave all you wish, I, ME, Somerville, doesn't have to make any connection. ALL I need to do is wait for the investigation to conclude. HOWEVER, the more obstructionism we see coming from the White House, the more us rational folks must wonder just why the Trumpies are acting in such a paranoid fashion. Why would the White House lead counsel tell Steve Bannon to invoke "executive privilege" to avoid saying anything to a Congressional committee? What does Bannon know that has the White House acting like a bunch rats caught as the light is turned on their basement dwelling?

The question was posted: What law states that it is against the law for foreign companies to donate to private groups?

Information from the Federal Election Committee regarding "Foreign Nationals:
The Act and Commission regulations include a broad prohibition on foreign national activity in connection with elections in the United States. 52 U.S.C. § 30121 and generally, 11 CFR 110.20. In general, foreign nationals are prohibited from the following activities:

Making any contribution or donation of money or other thing of value, or making any expenditure, independent expenditure, or disbursement in connection with any federal, state or local election in the United States;

Making any contribution or donation to any committee or organization of any national, state, district, or local political party (including donations to a party nonfederal account or office building account);

Making any disbursement for an electioneering communication;

Making any donation to a presidential inaugural committee.

Persons who knowingly and willfully engage in these activities may be subject to an FEC enforcement action, criminal prosecution, or both.
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Somerville said:
Well, isn't this just special?



Where did the money come from? A group, well known for its 'conservative' ideology, somehow acquired enough money to spend THREE TIMES as much in 2016 as it did in 2012.


Hooray for the Citizens United decision -- as long as you don't give a **** about who is buying politicians these days.

I'm sure some of the usual standard-bearers for the right wing will immediately bring in George Soros, although they will have next to nothing to support their claims -- you can't change the minds of the True Believers no matter how much actual information one provides.
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This is pathetic.
 
Somerville said:
Well, isn't this just special?



Where did the money come from? A group, well known for its 'conservative' ideology, somehow acquired enough money to spend THREE TIMES as much in 2016 as it did in 2012.


Hooray for the Citizens United decision -- as long as you don't give a **** about who is buying politicians these days.

I'm sure some of the usual standard-bearers for the right wing will immediately bring in George Soros, although they will have next to nothing to support their claims -- you can't change the minds of the True Believers no matter how much actual information one provides.
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How could money to the NRA help Trump?
 
They're going after the NRA? That's a special kind of stupid! :lamo
 
Somerville said:
Rant and rave all you wish, I, ME, Somerville, doesn't have to make any connection. ALL I need to do is wait for the investigation to conclude. HOWEVER, the more obstructionism we see coming from the White House, the more us rational folks must wonder just why the Trumpies are acting in such a paranoid fashion. Why would the White House lead counsel tell Steve Bannon to invoke "executive privilege" to avoid saying anything to a Congressional committee? What does Bannon know that has the White House acting like a bunch rats caught as the light is turned on their basement dwelling?

The question was posted: What law states that it is against the law for foreign companies to donate to private groups?

Information from the Federal Election Committee regarding "Foreign Nationals:
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When did exercising your legal right to be uncooperative about volunteering information to prosecutors who are conducting a political witch hunt become an indication of guilt? They would be foolish to voluntarily give them any help in finding proof of a crime. Let mueller and his team do their own dirty work.

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Somerville said:
Rant and rave all you wish, I, ME, Somerville, doesn't have to make any connection. ALL I need to do is wait for the investigation to conclude. HOWEVER, the more obstructionism we see coming from the White House, the more us rational folks must wonder just why the Trumpies are acting in such a paranoid fashion. Why would the White House lead counsel tell Steve Bannon to invoke "executive privilege" to avoid saying anything to a Congressional committee? What does Bannon know that has the White House acting like a bunch rats caught as the light is turned on their basement dwelling?

The question was posted: What law states that it is against the law for foreign companies to donate to private groups?

Information from the Federal Election Committee regarding "Foreign Nationals:
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Donating to the NRA is not influencing an election. Try again. The NRA is apolitical.
 
Somerville said:
Rant and rave all you wish, I, ME, Somerville, doesn't have to make any connection. ALL I need to do is wait for the investigation to conclude. HOWEVER, the more obstructionism we see coming from the White House, the more us rational folks must wonder just why the Trumpies are acting in such a paranoid fashion. Why would the White House lead counsel tell Steve Bannon to invoke "executive privilege" to avoid saying anything to a Congressional committee? What does Bannon know that has the White House acting like a bunch rats caught as the light is turned on their basement dwelling?

The question was posted: What law states that it is against the law for foreign companies to donate to private groups?

Information from the Federal Election Committee regarding "Foreign Nationals:
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Funny how y'all didn't mind when Obama did it.
 
reinoe said:
Donating to the NRA is not influencing an election. Try again. The NRA is apolitical.
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Did you miss that bit about the NRA donating $30 million to the Trump campaign? How is that to be seen as "apolitical"? OK, maybe you did miss it because it came from one of those "librul, Main Stream (lying) Media sources," that we all know can't be relied upon to ever tell us true news.
 
Ok, so let's pretend this has been proven true. So what? If Russia wants to financially support the NRA, then whatever.

George Soros financially supports and runs the DNC from Europe. Where's the outrage?
 
Somerville said:
Well, isn't this just special?



Where did the money come from? A group, well known for its 'conservative' ideology, somehow acquired enough money to spend THREE TIMES as much in 2016 as it did in 2012.


Hooray for the Citizens United decision -- as long as you don't give a **** about who is buying politicians these days.

I'm sure some of the usual standard-bearers for the right wing will immediately bring in George Soros, although they will have next to nothing to support their claims -- you can't change the minds of the True Believers no matter how much actual information one provides.
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Don't you just love rumors? Perfect for employing speculation and innuendo to justify a point of view, aren't they?
 
American said:
How could money to the NRA help Trump?
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As a store and forward.... Use the NRA to be a middle man for donations to a superpac.
 
Somerville said:
Did you miss that bit about the NRA donating $30 million to the Trump campaign? How is that to be seen as "apolitical"? OK, maybe you did miss it because it came from one of those "librul, Main Stream (lying) Media sources," that we all know can't be relied upon to ever tell us true news.
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The NRA is not part of the GOP. beep boop. Does this compute to you are are you still struggling with this?
 
Somerville said:
Did you miss that bit about the NRA donating $30 million to the Trump campaign?
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I think everyone did because it's not in there. The NRA is not allowed to do that.
 
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