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Trump dodges on prospect of a Mueller interview

The longer this investigation lasts and the more tenticles it magically sprouts, the more rediculous the Libbos look.

Everyone you disagree with is a racist and a nazi, and now when a darkhorse Republican gets elected you want him investigated until something is found.

Y'all are going to have a hard time winning elections like that.

This is a young investigation when compared to Whitewater or Watergate, be patient there is far more to come, Scares ya doesn't it, Good.

Really? Maybe you can point out my posts here that validate your rant? If not that makes you an F'n Liar.

Y'all? I am not a Democrat, in fact I voter 95% Republican in the last election, me thinks you are a Fool, and a Liar.
 
This is a young investigation when compared to Whitewater or Watergate, be patient there is far more to come, Scares ya doesn't it, Good.

Really? Maybe you can point out my posts here that validate your rant? If not that makes you an F'n Liar.

Y'all? I am not a Democrat, in fact I voter 95% Republican in the last election, me thinks you are a Fool, and a Liar.

You prove my point for me.
 

I want to clear the air.
I am not in any way endorsing what we have, but I am saying that in order to change it, it will take generational work. Right now, we are stuck with a presidential election setup that resembles a football game. Congressional, state, city, county and local elections are different, but presidential elections are, for all practical and historical purposes, two teams, one winner and one loser.
Other outside "teams" might contribute some interference, of course.

But in the end it's still pretty much a football game and still a two party system.
I would love to see something more like a coalition system.

But it's generational work and we've never even started on it yet.
 
I want to clear the air.
I am not in any way endorsing what we have, but I am saying that in order to change it, it will take generational work. Right now, we are stuck with a presidential election setup that resembles a football game. Congressional, state, city, county and local elections are different, but presidential elections are, for all practical and historical purposes, two teams, one winner and one loser.
Other outside "teams" might contribute some interference, of course.

But in the end it's still pretty much a football game and still a two party system.
I would love to see something more like a coalition system.

But it's generational work and we've never even started on it yet.

And we have a heap of huge problems on our plates, because we have spent an entire generation avoiding important work, but it is nice to have dreams man!
 
I want to clear the air.
I am not in any way endorsing what we have, but I am saying that in order to change it, it will take generational work. Right now, we are stuck with a presidential election setup that resembles a football game. Congressional, state, city, county and local elections are different, but presidential elections are, for all practical and historical purposes, two teams, one winner and one loser.
Other outside "teams" might contribute some interference, of course.

But in the end it's still pretty much a football game and still a two party system.
I would love to see something more like a coalition system.

But it's generational work and we've never even started on it yet.
As far as I know, the air was never unclear. :mrgreen:

I think the Constitution may be the most important document ever produced. It's brilliant, actually. But yeah, there are times when I wonder if we'd be better with a parliamentarian type system. One side takes all, is getting old with me too.
 
As far as I know, the air was never unclear. :mrgreen:

I think the Constitution may be the most important document ever produced. It's brilliant, actually. But yeah, there are times when I wonder if we'd be better with a parliamentarian type system. One side takes all, is getting old with me too.

We've lived through that countless times, but we had better checks and balances.
Take the simple filibuster, for instance. It was originally a means of wearing down the opposition by virtue of stamina. In the last couple of decades, it became a literal "push button".
A lawmaker simply "entered" their "intention to filibuster" and it was as good as done.
A filibuster should force that person to stand and deliver, as it was originally intended.

There are a thousand tiny cuts and workarounds which have arisen that are brought to bear against the minority, and NO ONE has fought hard enough to prevent them.

We lived through majority opposition because our lawmakers used to value country over party.
Conservatives and liberals fighting like cats and dogs is healthy, it is the American way, it is essential. But at the end of the day, the two opposing sides are supposed to sit down and work out what is best for the American people, not cling to dogma and stand on ceremony, not manufacture consent.

We have always had the Electoral College. But we did not always have Cambridge Analytica engineering gerrymandered districts, we did not have Citizens United and we had the Voting Rights Act. We can manage with any ONE of these but to allow ALL of them is to enable tyranny.
I say we get to pick ONE and ONLY ONE.

We HAD a Fourth Estate.
Radio and television news was run by the media ownership as a nonprofit public service, and the FCC regulated against monopoly ownership concentration. We HAD the Fairness Doctrine.

Now the Fairness Doctrine is gone, corporations can own as many outlets as they can purchase, and news is run as a retail for profit consumer product.

Democracy is not dying from a single mortal wound, democracy is dying from a million tiny cuts, and from a fulminating infection, from an infestation of parasites attacking the host body, from DARKNESS.
 
We've lived through that countless times, but we had better checks and balances.
Take the simple filibuster, for instance. It was originally a means of wearing down the opposition by virtue of stamina. In the last couple of decades, it became a literal "push button".
A lawmaker simply "entered" their "intention to filibuster" and it was as good as done.
A filibuster should force that person to stand and deliver, as it was originally intended.

There are a thousand tiny cuts and workarounds which have arisen that are brought to bear against the minority, and NO ONE has fought hard enough to prevent them.

We lived through majority opposition because our lawmakers used to value country over party.
Conservatives and liberals fighting like cats and dogs is healthy, it is the American way, it is essential. But at the end of the day, the two opposing sides are supposed to sit down and work out what is best for the American people, not cling to dogma and stand on ceremony, not manufacture consent.

We have always had the Electoral College. But we did not always have Cambridge Analytica engineering gerrymandered districts, we did not have Citizens United and we had the Voting Rights Act. We can manage with any ONE of these but to allow ALL of them is to enable tyranny.
I say we get to pick ONE and ONLY ONE.

We HAD a Fourth Estate.
Radio and television news was run by the media ownership as a nonprofit public service, and the FCC regulated against monopoly ownership concentration. We HAD the Fairness Doctrine.

Now the Fairness Doctrine is gone, corporations can own as many outlets as they can purchase, and news is run as a retail for profit consumer product.

Democracy is not dying from a single mortal wound, democracy is dying from a million tiny cuts, and from a fulminating infection, from an infestation of parasites attacking the host body, from DARKNESS.
You have a great sense of history, context, and the big picture, my friend.

For the most part, your ideas presented are mine as well, so there's not much to add. At one time or another, I posted each of the individual concepts you've presented above. I do believe you see the big picture stuff better than most. Keep up the good work!
 
You have a great sense of history, context, and the big picture, my friend.

For the most part, your ideas presented are mine as well, so there's not much to add. At one time or another, I posted each of the individual concepts you've presented above. I do believe you see the big picture stuff better than most. Keep up the good work!

I SCREWED UP!! (LOL) :shock:
I MEANT to say, "we didn't suffer the GUTTING of the Voting Rights Act."
 
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