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Kushner family business got $30M investment from Israeli firm prior to Trump's visit: [W:11:21:121]

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tres borrachos said:
Trump and his family can do it but Clinton can't. Is that your translation?
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No. I am simply pointing out the left's usual hypocrisy. And then when they are confronted about it they simply say we are talking about Trump, not Hillary and not Obama.
 
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Moderate Right said:
No. I am simply pointing out the left's usual hypocrisy. And then when they are confronted about it they simply say we are talking about Trump, not Hillary and not Obama.
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So you're okay with Trump doing anything that Clinton did. Got it.
 
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bearpoker said:
I'm iced in and I've gotta take my fun where I can get it. The issue for me is that the family has donated to a West Bank settlement group. Kushner is obviously not a neutral party. There is no way that the Palestinians will trust him enough to come to the table.
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Donating to a West Bank settlement group is illegal? unethical? or even unusual?
 
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jimbo said:
Donating to a West Bank settlement group is illegal? unethical? or even unusual?
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An ethical conflict of interest when you are the presidents Special I/P Envoy.
 
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tres borrachos said:
So you're okay with Trump doing anything that Clinton did. Got it.
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You're just in here to kick over toys and **** all over the place...So who cares?
 
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Rogue Valley said:
An ethical conflict of interest when you are the presidents Special I/P Envoy.
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Good grief, when will you guy's read? Right there in the OP....Hell, you didn't even have to open the article....

"The Times reported that the deal didn’t appear to violate federal ethics laws, and that Kushner didn’t seem to be involved in the deal."

There I even made it bigger so you could see it.
 
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j-mac said:
There I even made it bigger so you could see it.
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Just because an act is not against the law doesn't imply that it is always appropriate.

Receiving/dispensing kickbacks from one of two conflict groups under your aegis is highly unethical and taints any claim of fairness/neutrality.
 
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jimbo said:
Donating to a West Bank settlement group is illegal? unethical? or even unusual?
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Putting any money into projects that are past the Green Line is highly controversial to some nations, but totally legal.
 
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Rogue Valley said:
An ethical conflict of interest when you are the presidents Special I/P Envoy.
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The Charles and Emma Kushner family charity donated to the settlement group. I hardly see a conflict of interest. Ethical or otherwise.
 
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Fletch said:
Sorry, but it is not a diversion to declare that liberals who looked the other way with regard to the Clinton Foundation have zero credibility on the issue.
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I didn't, ON THIS THREAD, so why try that BS with me?

If that's the defense for Kushner's deal, Hillary did it FIRST!!, LIBS R hypocrites!, then I guess Kushner's deal was corrupt as hell because right wing blowhards have been going on about her dealings for YEARS now. Or is it right wingers have been hypocrites all these years. It's one of the two, by your own logic. Suit yourself I guess.
 
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Moderate Right said:
Translation: Our girl can do it but Trump can't.
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Translation: trump can do anything and I’ll agree to it.

Thanks for sharing unmoderate right
 
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j-mac said:
LOL....man you guy's are good at distortion, and flipping the argument on its head to deflect....We could learn from that.

Look, it is no more hypocritical of those of us speaking out against this unfair attack to nullify a duly processed election by those who are still clutching their stress balls, and stuffed animals over it, than it is for those of you on the political left to constantly throw up charges that are exactly what previous liberal administrations have done, and then say, don't look at that.....
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I'm just taking your "logic" to its natural conclusion. Sorry if that makes right wingers look pretty stupid.

It's really simple. If the attack on Kushner is unfair, then you defend the attacks by pointing out the unfairness. But you didn't do that.

If you compare the deal to Hillary's issues, in order to make the "hypocrisy" charge, which right wingers even now want investigated and her jailed over, then Kushner's deal was corrupt as hell. Or, you're just wearing a big sign that all the Hillary stuff was and is just partisan nonsense. If you don't like that obvious conclusion, don't use stupid logic. Easy peasy!
 
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Are we going to see a thread every time a Trump company or his family do any kind of deal?

I am missing the part where the Israeli bank is the Israeli government.

What is the conflict here?
 
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Mason66 said:
Are we going to see a thread every time a Trump company or his family do any kind of deal?

I am missing the part where the Israeli bank is the Israeli government.

What is the conflict here?
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Maybe, especially when the government has important and controversial issues in front of Trump, and then companies in the affected countries come up with $10s of millions in money right before key events. Surely you have to know that governments and large companies are OFTEN tied at the hip, either by actual relationships or just sharing goals and philosophies.

It's the kind of problems the Trump family's sprawling investments cause and that everyone has pointed out for over a year now, and that result when POTUS and his family continue to hold reportedly $billions in investments all over the globe. It's even worse when POTUS refuses to do what Presidents have done for decades, which is release their tax returns. Non-transparent conflicts of interest lead to speculation like we're seeing, whether it's warranted or not.
 
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JasperL said:
Maybe, especially when the government has important and controversial issues in front of Trump, and then companies in the affected countries come up with $10s of millions in money right before key events. Surely you have to know that governments and large companies are OFTEN tied at the hip, either by actual relationships or just sharing goals and philosophies.

It's the kind of problems the Trump family's sprawling investments cause and that everyone has pointed out for over a year now, and that result when POTUS and his family continue to hold reportedly $billions in investments all over the globe. It's even worse when POTUS refuses to do what Presidents have done for decades, which is release their tax returns. Non-transparent conflicts of interest lead to speculation like we're seeing, whether it's warranted or not.
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Conflicts are not general. Conflicts are specific.

You have to make the connection between a business deal and whatever deal you think is in front of the White House.

If a person in a foreign country does business with an American bank, is it assumed that American bank is working on behalf of the American government? If not, why is that assumption for other countries?
 
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Mason66 said:
Conflicts are not general. Conflicts are specific.

You have to make the connection between a business deal and whatever deal you think is in front of the White House.

If a person in a foreign country does business with an American bank, is it assumed that American bank is working on behalf of the American government? If not, why is that assumption for other countries?
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When we are dealing with Russia which is run by oligarchs who have all the money, banks are just their pawns. Putin is the richest man in the world with over 200 Billlion in estimated assets. He's bigger than most banks and controls the rest.
 
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tres borrachos said:
But....but......HILLARY!

In before the citizens of Trump Fan Nation said it.
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Yes, because if you make an OP about an incredibly obvious double standard. Then you will most likely need to expect the natural amount of whatabout-isms to come flying in.
 
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j-mac said:
Nope, wrong again....Read the OP...It's right there in the first paragraph.
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Whoa.... asking them to read?
That's brutal.
 
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Oborosen said:
Yes, because if you make an OP about an incredibly obvious double standard. Then you will most likely need to expect the natural amount of whatabout-isms to come flying in.
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Some people make an OP about a news topic and expect people to discuss the topic.
 
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tres borrachos said:
Some people make an OP about a news topic and expect people to discuss the topic.
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But....but......HILLARY!

In before the citizens of Trump Fan Nation said it.
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Does this look like adding to the discussion to you?
 
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Rogue Valley said:
Kushner family business got $30M investment from Israeli firm prior to Trump's state visit: report



Yes, I know. Happenstance and coincidence.
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do you not read your own articles? i know you rarely read other peoples.

The Times reported that the deal didn’t appear to violate federal ethics laws, and that Kushner didn’t seem to be involved in the deal. Ran Markman, Menora’s head of real estate, told the newspaper that the deal was not made because of Kushner’s standing in the U.S. government, saying he had never met Kushner.

your TDS is out of control at this point it isn't healthy.
 
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tres borrachos said:
But....but......HILLARY!

In before the citizens of Trump Fan Nation said it.
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did you not read the article either?

The Times reported that the deal didn’t appear to violate federal ethics laws, and that Kushner didn’t seem to be involved in the deal. Ran Markman, Menora’s head of real estate, told the newspaper that the deal was not made because of Kushner’s standing in the U.S. government, saying he had never met Kushner.

your TDS is out of control and it isn't healthy.
 
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