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Divided Democrats Face Liberal Backlash on Immigration

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WASHINGTON- With a new deadline fast approaching, Democrats in Congress are struggling to adopt a unified strategy to protect hundreds of thousands of young immigrants from deportation.

Liberal groups with millions of members, like MoveOn, are threatening primary election challenges later this year against Democrats who don't fight hard enough for so-called "Dreamers." Meanwhile, the liberal organization CREDO is pledging to block campaign cash from uncooperative Democrats, and the pro-immigration United We Dream is preparing a new wave of camera-friendly protests at the Capitol and outside congressional Democrats' offices nationwide.

"The unity and trust between the grassroots and elected Democrats is rapidly eroding. It could turn ugly if this goes on any further," said Ben Wikler, MoveOn's Washington director.

Divided Democrats face liberal backlash on immigration | The Tribune
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Democrats might want to stop obsessing over the latest crumb dropped from Steve Bannon's plate, and realize their party has major problems. All the hyper-focus on destroying Trump has left the DNC void of leadership and cohesion.
 
truthatallcost said:
Democrats might want to stop obsessing over the latest crumb dropped from Steve Bannon's plate, and realize their party has major problems. All the hyper-focus on destroying Trump has left the DNC void of leadership and cohesion.
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The majority of Congress want to protect DACA, trump says they are good people and DACA needs to continue, and DACA will be renewed this year. Don't see a problem.

As for the Dems, yes they in re-org mode, but I would say they are in a better position than the GOP, which is now in full panic mode.
 
Casper said:
The majority of Congress want to protect DACA, trump says they are good people and DACA needs to continue, and DACA will be renewed this year. Don't see a problem.

As for the Dems, yes they in re-org mode, but I would say they are in a better position than the GOP, which is now in full panic mode.
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What most demorats (and many others) say they want is comprehensive immigration reform. DACA (in some form) may be a small, but important, piece of that package but as a stand alone bill is basically worthless. Even Obama saw DACA as requiring DAPA because you cannot grant an 11 year old amnesty and expect them to support themselves after deporting their parents.
 
truthatallcost said:
Democrats might want to stop obsessing over the latest crumb dropped from Steve Bannon's plate, and realize their party has major problems. All the hyper-focus on destroying Trump has left the DNC void of leadership and cohesion.
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The sad thing for the Democrats is that the liberal platform is bad for the country. But they are so far out on that limb that they have nowhere to go.
 
Casper said:
The majority of Congress want to protect DACA, trump says they are good people and DACA needs to continue, and DACA will be renewed this year. Don't see a problem.

As for the Dems, yes they in re-org mode, but I would say they are in a better position than the GOP, which is now in full panic mode.
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Only the left thinks this. :roll:

It is just the left wing journalists who are creating the myth.

The truth is the DNC is broke, and money isn't coming in like it used to. not to mention the minorities have done a really good job of making it clear that white people are the problem. :lamo
 
joG said:
The sad thing for the Democrats is that the liberal platform is bad for the country. But they are so far out on that limb that they have nowhere to go.
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I would say bad for their low skill and low income voting constituency. It isn’t the doctors and lawyers that are competing with illegal labor for jobs. It is the construction workers, waiters, and so on.
 
truthatallcost said:
Democrats might want to stop obsessing over the latest crumb dropped from Steve Bannon's plate, and realize their party has major problems. All the hyper-focus on destroying Trump has left the DNC void of leadership and cohesion.
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Another misleading headline.

Original: Divided Democrats Face Liberal Backlash on Immigration

Accurate: Divided Democrats Face Liberal Backlash on Illegal Immigration
 
joG said:
The sad thing for the Democrats is that the liberal platform is bad for the country. But they are so far out on that limb that they have nowhere to go.
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The "liberal platform" is overwhelmingly pro-working class. It is for protecting workers from abusive corporate behavior; it is pro-union -- that win workers higher wages and better worker protections; it is for opposing policies that export jobs; it is for protecting Social Security and Medicare, etc. Immigrants have been used for over a century to divide the working class, so the owning class can rule over them both.

Conservative policies are designed to aide corporations, which always take management's side over workers.
 
Blkdirt Farmer said:
Only the left thinks this. :roll:

It is just the left wing journalists who are creating the myth.

The truth is the DNC is broke, and money isn't coming in like it used to. not to mention the minorities have done a really good job of making it clear that white people are the problem. :lamo
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If You say so then it must be true, silly me............
 
ttwtt78640 said:
What most demorats (and many others) say they want is comprehensive immigration reform. DACA (in some form) may be a small, but important, piece of that package but as a stand alone bill is basically worthless. Even Obama saw DACA as requiring DAPA because you cannot grant an 11 year old amnesty and expect them to support themselves after deporting their parents.
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Part of the sticking point is going to be the democrats want unconditional amnesty to DACA's rather than green cards because they want those votes. The other sticking point is there is no way to prevent the next wave of Mexicans from coming in and setting up shop and doing it all over again. Which, IMO, is exactly the democrats goal, and that goal was achieved in the '70's courtesy of Ted Kennedy taking enforcement out of the package before the Reagan plan's ink was dry.

"Stab me in the back once... is all you are gonna get"
 
MTAtech said:
The "liberal platform" is overwhelmingly pro-working class. It is for protecting workers from abusive corporate behavior; it is pro-union -- that win workers higher wages and better worker protections; it is for opposing policies that export jobs; it is for protecting Social Security and Medicare, etc. Immigrants have been used for over a century to divide the working class, so the owning class can rule over them both.

Conservative policies are designed to aide corporations, which always take management's side over workers.
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Demonstrating some of the faulty logic used to justify liberal policies, I don’t see that contradicts my statement. It seems to underline it.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
What most demorats (and many others) say they want is comprehensive immigration reform. DACA (in some form) may be a small, but important, piece of that package but as a stand alone bill is basically worthless. Even Obama saw DACA as requiring DAPA because you cannot grant an 11 year old amnesty and expect them to support themselves after deporting their parents.
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What is DAPA?? Pls and thank you
 
truthatallcost said:
Democrats might want to stop obsessing over the latest crumb dropped from Steve Bannon's plate, and realize their party has major problems. All the hyper-focus on destroying Trump has left the DNC void of leadership and cohesion.
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Eh, I don't think this is any more useful a story than those that talk about chaos and revolution within the ranks of Republicans.

This is just posturing.

If there is going to be a rift in the Democrat base I would guess it won't come from monastic progressive bastions like MoveOn, they only have one real loyalty and it is to the party. Where the split may come is in traditionally Democrat strongholds who have a second, primary purpose that may quickly come in conflict with the agenda pushed by MoveOn and others. If a crack does form in the DNC dam it will happen in the mortal connection progressive PACs and the trade unions who have much to like in Trump's domestic policy, and whose members have more immediate concerns with their own job security and paychecks than they do the fate of "dreamers".
 
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