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    Re: Manafort sues Mueller, Justice Department over Russia probe

    Last act of a very,very desperate man. He must no longer be relying on being part of a mass pardon package.

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    Re: Manafort sues Mueller, Justice Department over Russia probe

    Quote Originally Posted by celticwar17 View Post
    That's quite hyperbolic...
    Your statement looked hyperbolic to me.'

    Those have all been the positions of the Trump White House and people on this very forum, and certainly Fox news.
    Do we really have to get quotes of each of these and you'll then believe them?
    FBI tainted is running now, you agree that's their position?
    DOJ, same
    Courts have been discussed since the campaign, surely in the Muslim ban too.
    The media is the enemy, we can quote Trump saying this 20 times almost verbatim.
    Deep state, you guys have been running with this since the election.

    This doesn't even go far enough, it's just a summarized cartoon.

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    Re: Manafort sues Mueller, Justice Department over Russia probe

    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye10 View Post
    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/crime-c...-probe-n834431

    He should be right, and he might find a judge to rule in his favor, but the work of THE HATCHET MAN (My term for Mueller..which I claim is the real job he was hired to do)) will not be impeded by those lower judges I spect, and I cant imagine SCOTUS getting in his way now that they are primarily a political body rather than a legal body.
    The guy got caught violating a slew of laws, and now his defense is the body that investigated him doesn't have the authority to do so. Good luck with that argument, I guess, but it's hard to imagine how Mueller could look into ties between senior members of the campaign with Russia, Russia collusion, etc. without, as step 1 or 2 of 100 or more, following the money trail, and that trail led straight to the crimes he's charged with. It's not like he's been charged with cavorting with prostitutes or having consensual sex with an underling or something, but having large and very significant financial ties with the country that allegedly tried to influence our election.

    If anything, looks like he's trying to build a case for a possible Trump pardon, by spreading the idea in public than his prosecution is somehow illegitimate. It might work with Trump lemmings, but not with anyone else I suspect.

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    Re: Manafort sues Mueller, Justice Department over Russia probe

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    People have said muller was going outside the scope of his investigation and so do a lot of other people.
    And all of those people are idiots.

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    Re: Manafort sues Mueller, Justice Department over Russia probe

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    And all of those people are idiots.
    Quite a few of them are law makers.

    Mueller?s probe doesn't end with a bang, but with a whimper | TheHill

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    Re: Manafort sues Mueller, Justice Department over Russia probe

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    The guy got caught violating a slew of laws, and now his defense is the body that investigated him doesn't have the authority to do so. Good luck with that argument, I guess, but it's hard to imagine how Mueller could look into ties between senior members of the campaign with Russia, Russia collusion, etc. without, as step 1 or 2 of 100 or more, following the money trail, and that trail led straight to the crimes he's charged with. It's not like he's been charged with cavorting with prostitutes or having consensual sex with an underling or something, but having large and very significant financial ties with the country that allegedly tried to influence our election.

    If anything, looks like he's trying to build a case for a possible Trump pardon, by spreading the idea in public than his prosecution is somehow illegitimate. It might work with Trump lemmings, but not with anyone else I suspect.
    I say that he is giving the courts the chance to do the right thing, and that they wont.
    When society throws away the Truth Tellers prepare for the worst, for it is surely coming.
    Open your eyes and your mind and then speak truth..........That is the only way forwards.

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    Re: Manafort sues Mueller, Justice Department over Russia probe

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Publicity stunt.
    Exactly. This has no chance at all of success and Manafort will be left trying to tell the court why he did the things he did when he sold his own sorry ass to foreign powers and he will end up in prison for it
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    Re: Manafort sues Mueller, Justice Department over Russia probe

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    Quite a few of them are law makers.
    And those law makers are idiots.

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    Re: Manafort sues Mueller, Justice Department over Russia probe

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    The guy got caught violating a slew of laws, and now his defense is the body that investigated him doesn't have the authority to do so. Good luck with that argument, I guess, but it's hard to imagine how Mueller could look into ties between senior members of the campaign with Russia, Russia collusion, etc. without, as step 1 or 2 of 100 or more, following the money trail, and that trail led straight to the crimes he's charged with. It's not like he's been charged with cavorting with prostitutes or having consensual sex with an underling or something, but having large and very significant financial ties with the country that allegedly tried to influence our election.

    If anything, looks like he's trying to build a case for a possible Trump pardon, by spreading the idea in public than his prosecution is somehow illegitimate. It might work with Trump lemmings, but not with anyone else I suspect.
    The financial ties between Trump and Russia go to motive and the reason Trump has had his nose so far up Putins rear corridor and then tells him about the scent of roses in the air.
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    Re: Manafort sues Mueller, Justice Department over Russia probe

    Quote Originally Posted by GDViking View Post
    Last act of a very,very desperate man. He must no longer be relying on being part of a mass pardon package.
    Mannafort has nothing to lose now, and so he is dangerous.

    Good on him for showing some spine.

    But the system is too broken.

    This will not work.
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    Open your eyes and your mind and then speak truth..........That is the only way forwards.

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