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Trump Tower meeting with Russians 'treasonous', Bannon says in explosive book [W:124]

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Deuce said:
My opinion would add to this that it would only apply to government officials or military personnel, folks who have sworn some sort of oath of service to the United States.

Random Joe Citizen doesn't owe allegiance to anything.
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And American Citizens trying to overthrow the Govt using violence.
 
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JacksinPA said:
Trump being unfamiliar with our Constitution makes him unqualified to be President.
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Nope- he is unfamiliar with many things. A loose cannon. I fully support stronger sanctions on NK, and he is getting them so Kudos to him on that. I think that his comments regarding the issue with NK can/may lead to errors in judgment, and as history has shown a small thing, blown out of proportion, and before we know it, war has broken out.
 
poweRob said:
Bannon fulfilling his promise to "go to war" with parts of the GOP. This battle is inside the white house itself.

Trump Tower meeting with Russians 'treasonous', Bannon says in explosive book

Donald Trump’s former chief strategist Steve Bannon has described the Trump Tower meeting between the president’s son and a group of Russians during the 2016 election campaign as “treasonous” and “unpatriotic”, according to an explosive new book seen by the Guardian.

Bannon, speaking to author Michael Wolff, warned that the investigation into alleged collusion with the Kremlin will focus on money laundering and predicted: “They’re going to crack Don Junior like an egg on national TV.”​
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I suspect there is some legitimacy in these statements, or at least enough cover to protect the publishers from Trump's favorite revenge, lawsuit. However, I have to note that during the campaign, Trump repeatedly answered complex questions, which may or may not have understood, by saying "I have the best people..."

Certainly Trump believes that. However we also have to note how quickly he throws his "best people" under a bus. Then there is the question of "best at what?" as we see this operative unwind a well planned broadside at his former employer, to the point Trump has tweeted that Bannon is "out of his mind". But we see what he's good at, revenge a la Trump, apparently the "go to" guy when it's time to get dirty.

So the question then is exactly how Trump saw the presidency in the first place?
 
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jmotivator said:
A narrative based on none of that. Your narrative does tie anything logically, it simply makes an assumption of motive and expects others to connect the dots.
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Freudian slip? Lol, what motive did I assume? Actually, here is my post which you've conveniently ignored so you can talk about my ass:

Hatuey said:
Oh no, Bannon is still a nazi. I'm laughing at how Trump's hand-picked people are all forming a line to discredit him. It goes to show the kind of character judge that Trump is. Flynn, Manaforte, Papadopolouslopolousolopous (cause **** that guy's name). All have been 'minor' figures who just somehow have enough information on Trump for him to make twitter entries about them.

What coinki-dinks, don't ya think?
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And yet here we are, with Bannon making a statement, and Trump reacting as expected - by claiming that the guy was merely a staffer. We know the reality is that Bannon was being directly thanked on Twitter for his work. Something no other 'staffer' got - and that Bannon is now attacking Trump - which I directly mentioned in my post.

... but hey, you're still talking about my ass and somehow that being a narrative... for... I don't know? Exactly what I said was going to happen happening? It's nice I guess if not a little creepy. :lol:

I can smell the desperation in your posts. So many references to asses? Weird.
 
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I can't wait for jmotivator's next reference to my ass or rectum, or sternum in an effort for him to ignore the fact that what I said was going to happen... ended up happening.
 
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NeverTrumpGOP said:
Yes, Trump minions don't want to talk about that do they? Fox News was talking about Hillary Emails AGAIN! Last night CNN was saying that Mueller probe has been in contact with someone from Trump Camp, for a long time. Way before the public even knew about the investigation. So that might mean the investigation will conclude soon.
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I absolutely agree. I hear about some stories on Canada's national network, CBC long before it gets raised in here. The last hour led with a story about Trump tweeting Bannon is "out of his mind" in a "raging" series of tweets....I haven't seen that on US websites yet.

The CBC has no dog in the hunt, and I can tell you why they have said nothing about Hilary and emails...it's a non story. Even if the lies being posted were true, her past is irrelevant in the face of Trump's current activities. Further, every editor knows there is nothing there. She was hauled before a ton of questions, under oath and they found, 'great scott" she violated policy. Hmmm. Hang the bitch.

It is clear why Fox is so interested in history, they have NOTHING else to take the growing heat of Mr. Trump and his band of merry morons. They have tried everything, Trump has said too much already, they have bad mouthed the investigation and tried to undermine the credibility of Mueller ( for which I hear there may be lawsuits) and found it a dead end.

"Hillary" is to the Republican party what "commies on campus" was for the Nixon administration.....deliberately created fear inciting falsehoods and hint and world-wide conspiracies.

I must be too old because seeing this again is just.....wearying, soul destroying, old.
 
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upsideguy said:
Zero evidence that you know of..... unless you are part of the investigative team OR are part of the custodial team, snooping around at night, you have no idea what evidence the team has. We can guarantee that it much more than the public knows about. Public knowledge of the status of the investigation is irrelevant as they (we) are in the dark. You are taking the comfort of ignorance with the statement "And zero evidence after months and months of investigating"

In the end, its most likely that collusion will not be the stunning conclusion of the investigation. It will be Trump's financial entanglements with Russia (which may include money laundering). I have continued to say, based upon informed speculation, we are going to learn that Russia interests own Donald Trump. This article supports this notion, as does the piece in the NYT today from Fusion GPS.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/02/opinion/republicans-investigation-fusion-gps.html
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The money laundering looks like it could be Trumps Achilles' heel, if it is true. What is a fact is the President committed Obstruction of Justice by firing Comey. Bannon says it was Trumps biggest FU, and I agree. If Trump is not careful he may face a Dem Congress next year which will not give him a free pass. I think the House will go to the Dems, and then Muellers findings will have ramifications in the form of Articles of Impeachment.
 
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TheGoverness said:
Bannon is so ****ing salty.
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All the ranting of how unreliable bannon is and how he is scum and always lies etc ...
The first anti trump hung he says these now think he has credibility.

He is just as unreliable now as he was then.
 
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Hatuey said:
And like clockwork....

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...annon-after-treasonous-comments-idUSKBN1ES1GK



.... Oh, and just for reference here is Trump on Bannon less than a year ago:

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Lol, this is the reason that I ask folks like you to stay in your lanes.
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And what lane would that be? But let me congratulate you. You 'predicting' that Trump would fire back at Bannon is nothing short of amazing. Tell me, Nostradamus, have you any thoughts on what the next move for the sun might be after it sets this evening?
 
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Samhain said:
I thought Bannon was the anti-christ?
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he still is

only now, tRump realizes it, too
 
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yankintx said:
The money laundering looks like it could be Trumps Achilles' heel, if it is true. What is a fact is the President committed Obstruction of Justice by firing Comey. Bannon says it was Trumps biggest FU, and I agree. If Trump is not careful he may face a Dem Congress next year which will not give him a free pass. I think the House will go to the Dems, and then Muellers findings will have ramifications in the form of Articles of Impeachment.
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Matt Miller on MSNCB just said this ..... if the feuding members of a dysfunctional and badly divided Trump White House cannot keep up a united front in front of a mere author, what can Robert Mueller with all his power and authority do with those same persons when he gets them in front of his investigators and then the Grand Jury?

Its a very sobering thought.
 
Fearandloathing said:
I suspect there is some legitimacy in these statements, or at least enough cover to protect the publishers from Trump's favorite revenge, lawsuit. However, I have to note that during the campaign, Trump repeatedly answered complex questions, which may or may not have understood, by saying "I have the best people..."

Certainly Trump believes that. However we also have to note how quickly he throws his "best people" under a bus. Then there is the question of "best at what?" as we see this operative unwind a well planned broadside at his former employer, to the point Trump has tweeted that Bannon is "out of his mind". But we see what he's good at, revenge a la Trump, apparently the "go to" guy when it's time to get dirty.

So the question then is exactly how Trump saw the presidency in the first place?
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Kristin Welker of NBC nailed Sanders on that point just now when she asked very pointedly if Trump believes that "Bannon lost his mind" when he was let go last summer - why was the President still talking to him several months later as late as December? And Sanders could not give decent reply other than they have a relationship.
 
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Hatuey said:
Freudian slip? Lol, what motive did I assume? Actually, here is my post which you've conveniently ignored so you can talk about my ass:
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Your argument is like saying that the sun was up at 5:30, you heard from a neighbor your mail carrier is stealing mail, and the cat next door might be in heat ... and therefor your wife is having an affair. One is a fact, two are unsubstantiated and none of them support the conclusion except in your own head.


And yet here we are, with Bannon making a statement, and Trump reacting as expected
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You don't seem to realize that your logic circuit if fried which is why I find our conversation so fascinating. Trump's reaction is to be expected because he is angry with Bannon... and Trump would be angry with Bannon whether Bannon was telling the truth or whether he was lying. So Trump's reaction can't be proof that Bannon is telling the truth. Likewise your Flynn and Papadopolous logic is similarly broken. Pleading guilty is indeed cooperating with the investigation. Pleading guilty is not proof that they hold deeper darker secrets about some other third party, it just means that neither side finds the time and expense of a trial to be advantageous. Tell me, how many times have Flynn, Papadopolous and Manafort met with investigators after pleading guilty? Were any of them granted immunity as part of a guilty plea? These would be the telltale signs of a guilty plea being more than an agreement to bypass the expense of a trial... can you verify if any of that happened?

- by claiming that the guy was merely a staffer. We know the reality is that Bannon was being directly thanked on Twitter for his work. Something no other 'staffer' got - and that Bannon is now attacking Trump - which I directly mentioned in my post.
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Yeah, Bannon is attacking Trump and Trump is firing back... so? Your conclusions drawn from that aren't sound and don't flow as the most logical explanation for the exchange.

... but hey, you're still talking about my ass and somehow that being a narrative... for... I don't know? Exactly what I said was going to happen happening? It's nice I guess if not a little creepy. :lol:
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You mean that Trump responded to Bannon's accusations by belittling Bannon? It's pretty sad that you see that as the tough prediction. :roll:

I can smell the desperation in your posts. So many references to asses? Weird.
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"Pulled out of your ass" is a pretty common colloquialism. Surprised you don't know that one yet.

Also, you are having hallucinatory smells... you may be having an aneurysm.
 
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Fletch said:
And what lane would that be? But let me congratulate you. You 'predicting' that Trump would fire back at Bannon is nothing short of amazing. Tell me, Nostradamus, have you any thoughts on what the next move for the sun might be after it sets this evening?
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Hatuey is claiming that Bannon said mean things about Trump and Trump got mad and belittled Bannon and that proves Trump is a Russian spy. :lamo

Hatuey will now restate his illogical connect the dots, proving he is a Russian spy.
 
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jmotivator said:
The problem with this newly released narrative is that it is clearly bull ****. The FBI wants you to believe that George Papadopolous kicked off the Trump investigation after a drunken admission to an Australian official.... expect that to believe that we would have to square two known facts that simply don't add up:

1) George Papadopolous was first interviewed by the FBI in January of 2017, nearly two months AFTER the election, and some 8 months AFTER the FBI was supposedly informed.

2) After the FBI received word that George Papadopolous had disclosed information about the email breech they opened the investigation by.... getting a FISA warrant for Carter Page, a campaign staffer whose alleged meeting with Russian spies was first detailed in... the Steele Dossier.

So what you are banking on is that an Australian Ambassador came to the FBI AFTER the DNC email release and told the FBI that he heard about it before, but didn't tell anyone.

You are easily fooled.
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So to maintain your conspiracy theory you have to claim that the aussie diplomat is a liar. got it.
 
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jmotivator said:
Your argument is like saying that the sun was up at 5:30, you heard from a neighbor your mail carrier is stealing mail, and the cat next door might be in heat ... and therefor your wife is having an affair. One is a fact, two are unsubstantiated and none of them support the conclusion except in your own head.
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Lol, this would be funny if it hadn't been so laughable. I pointed out basic facts. You dove head first into some claims about collusion and then ignored that what I said would happen, happened anyways.

You don't seem to realize that your logic circuit if fried which is why I find our conversation so fascinating. Trump's reaction is to be expected because he is angry with Bannon... and Trump would be angry with Bannon whether Bannon was telling the truth or whether he was lying. So Trump's reaction can't be proof that Bannon is telling the truth.
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It doesn't matter if Bannon is telling the truth or not. What matters is that Trump reacted exactly as was expected of someone whose character is weak and predictable. The funniest part is that he's using the exact same playbook he did for every other person who is now facing charges for some issue related to the Russia investigation. The only problem is that not a single person who he has used this playbook on is actually a minor character.

They are facing charges, they are cooperating and collaborating with the FBI, you seem to be saying that if you don't know what's going on - then it's some flaw in everyone else's criticism's of Trump, the problem is that Trump chose these people. Keep rambling about my ass though.

Fletch said:
And what lane would that be? But let me congratulate you. You 'predicting' that Trump would fire back at Bannon is nothing short of amazing. Tell me, Nostradamus, have you any thoughts on what the next move for the sun might be after it sets this evening?
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... Lol, you literally asked me if he had done that. Then rolled your eyes. I explained to you he would. Then he did. But you're still here, after being proven wrong on just what Mueller is investigating, and telling everyone that you too knew this would happen... even though the contention is that it would happen because well, Trump is weak in character and this is how such people react to these things.

:lol:
 
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jmotivator said:
Hatuey is claiming that Bannon said mean things about Trump and Trump got mad and belittled Bannon and that proves Trump is a Russian spy. :lamo

Hatuey will now restate his illogical connect the dots, proving he is a Russian spy.
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I will have to take your word for that. Its bad enough that I have to muddle through his responses to my posts. I don't torture myself by reading his replies to others.
 
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poweRob said:
So to maintain your conspiracy theory you have to claim that the aussie diplomat is a liar. got it.
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Lol, he's on the internet. They're in Australia, of course these guys are liars.
 
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Fletch said:
I will have to take your word for that. Its bad enough that I have to muddle through his responses to my posts. I don't torture myself by reading his replies to others.
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jmotivator said:
Hatuey is claiming that Bannon said mean things about Trump and Trump got mad and belittled Bannon and that proves Trump is a Russian spy. :lamo


Hatuey will now restate his illogical connect the dots, proving he is a Russian spy.
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Can't wait for you to prove it.
 
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Hatuey said:
... Lol, you literally asked me if he had done that. Then rolled your eyes. I explained to you he would. Then he did. But you're still here, after being proven wrong on just what Mueller is investigating, and telling everyone that you too knew this would happen... even though the contention is that it would happen because well, Trump is weak in character and this is how such people react to these things.

:lol:
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Um, no. I asked you if Trump had responded because I thought you might know something I didn't. Clearly, that was a silly thing for me to think. My bad.
 
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Fletch said:
Um, no. I asked you if Trump had responded because I thought you might know something I didn't.
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He literally did exactly what I said he would, so... yes, obviously I know something you don't. That, and what Mueller is actually investigating.

Double up on your nonsense?
 
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JacksinPA said:
Are you in a hurry for some reason? The Watergate investigation took 2 years. But maybe you were born after that.
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They had something in Watergate, the WaPo would put out stories. There's nothing here, this investigation needs to be shutdown.
 
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Risky Thicket said:
I’ll be more than happy to respond to that when you stop attempting divert this thread and start your own Hillary thread. This thread is not about Hillary.
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LOL! Just say you can't answer, I don't want the BS reply.
 
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