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Buzz62 said:
Errr...this is actually true.
The Balfour Declaration is what Zionists hang their hat on, when justifying the purchase of Palestine from the absentee landlords...the Turks I believe it was...?
But it was the Palestinian people who had been there all along. Had worked the land and build the towns...such as they were.
Unfortunately, the Palestinians of the time were fairly simple people, and they were quite completely taken advantage of by the likes of the Rothchild family.

So although, OldFatGuy, the migrants may not have been aware of the backroom screwin' that went on in order to secure the land of Palestine, the fact is their land...again, such as it was...had been purchased right out from under their feet.

Here endith the lesson...:cool:
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No lesson. Zionists hang their hat on only one concept, the Jewish morning prayer since the Roman diaspora, "Next year in Jerusalem." The same prayer that closes Sabbath services.

The Rothchilds have been the antisemites boogeyman and only fools give the concept credence.

Who sold that land for profits?
 
Lord Tammerlain said:
I have not read anything regarding the support of China towards East Pakistan (Bangladesh) during that war. Can you direct me towards something that has that information
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It's been far too long, and too distant in my memory to give you anything on this matter. And basically, I never cared. China makes needed cash selling weapons. They aren't as prolific at arms dealing as we are, but they do their part. Most 3rd world AK-47's come from China or Bulgaria.
 
OldFatGuy said:
For once, come out and be honest. You hate Jews and love our nation's enemies. We've been at war with the muslims, like everyone else, since this nation was formed. Look to the Marine Hymn for evidence.
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The only one being dishonest here is you. I've said nothing to make anyone think I hate the Jews and love the enemies of our country. You are liar. Rather your position is clearly anti-Islamic, to the point that it makes you one very ugly person. The history your rely on is put in the context of vilifying Muslims, treating the as less than human. Ironically, the same way Jew were vilified by their enemies. You are a part of the problem. There was a time in our history that we were welcomed in the Middle East, before we began engaging in interventionism and engaging in regime change for corporate interests. The more we, and our allies, exploited the Middle East for it's resources the worse the situation became.

We have not been "at war with Muslims" since our birth as a nation. That is a foolish statement and indicative of your very narrow command of history. You can engage in all the Islamophobic rhetoric you want, but it doesn't impress me. At war with Muslims...how stupid. The fact that you would even make such a ridiculous comment explains your over the top, irrational response to my comments.

I served my country for 12 years and have been to the Middle East three times. Don't you dare question my love for this nation. You are an ugly person.
 
Lerxst said:
No, it doesn't make them a hypocrite. You can look back upon history and make a determination that something that happened was a bad thing, that it shouldn't have happened. What happened to the Native Americans was horrible. I'm not saying that Israel should now be kicked out of the land they have established the state on. I'm saying the whole situation was ****ed and shouldn't have happened the way it did.

That doesn't make a hypocrite, it just means I have a healthy empathy response to people in a bad situation. That is why I said don't overthink my response.
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Rationalizations.
 
Soopairik said:
I don't know man, it appears that Palestine is a real word in the dictionary. Also the Palestinians lived there for many years and the Jews came later.
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Manufactured by the Romans. The previous tenants of the land, the Caananites have no relation to modern Arabs who came from sub-Saharan Africa. Those who survived the Jewish conquering of Canaan, Israel, either left becoming the Phoenicians along with the Philistines, and later Carthaginians, or converted to Judaism.
 
Lerxst said:
The only one being dishonest here is you. I've said nothing to make anyone think I hate the Jews and love the enemies of our country. You are liar. Rather your position is clearly anti-Islamic, to the point that it makes you one very ugly person. The history your rely on is put in the context of vilifying Muslims, treating the as less than human. Ironically, the same way Jew were vilified by their enemies. You are a part of the problem. There was a time in our history that we were welcomed in the Middle East, before we began engaging in interventionism and engaging in regime change for corporate interests. The more we, and our allies, exploited the Middle East for it's resources the worse the situation became.

We have not been "at war with Muslims" since our birth as a nation. That is a foolish statement and indicative of your very narrow command of history. You can engage in all the Islamophobic rhetoric you want, but it doesn't impress me. At war with Muslims...how stupid. The fact that you would even make such a ridiculous comment explains your over the top, irrational response to my comments.

I served my country for 12 years and have been to the Middle East three times. Don't you dare question my love for this nation. You are an ugly person.
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You're words have repeatedly spoken for you.

Who do you think the Barbary pirates were? Yes, we have been at war with the muslim world since our nation's inception.

Here's something else for you, take your word "Islamophobic" out of the conversation. Phobic means fear. I have no fear of muslims, I merely detest their religion and choice to see the world subjugated. You need to stop using words you don't understand.

Yes, everyone who disagrees with your antisemitism pro islamic sentiments is ugly, stupid, a liar and to be called "part of the problem.":lamo Ad hominem heaven, the obvious weak and insincere argument.

Don't BS me about your service as being justification for your position. It is irrelevant to the argument. Been there, done that, and I still carry the lead to prove it. Those who talk about their service to justify a political opinion, usually didn't serve. Stolen Valor. Well, for those who believe in valor.
 
OldFatGuy said:
You're words have repeatedly spoken for you.

Who do you think the Barbary pirates were? Yes, we have been at war with the muslim world since our nation's inception.

Here's something else for you, take your word "Islamophobic" out of the conversation. Phobic means fear. I have no fear of muslims, I merely detest their religion and choice to see the world subjugated. You need to stop using words you don't understand.

Yes, everyone who disagrees with your antisemitism pro islamic sentiments is ugly, stupid, a liar and to be called "part of the problem.":lamo Ad hominem heaven, the obvious weak and insincere argument.

Don't BS me about your service as being justification for your position. It is irrelevant to the argument. Been there, done that, and I still carry the lead to prove it. Those who talk about their service to justify a political opinion, usually didn't serve. Stolen Valor. Well, for those who believe in valor.
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Seriously...you have issues. You are incapable of processing anything but black or white. "Oh if you disagree with Israel you hate Jews, ANTI SEMITE!" If you have sympathy for the plight of the Palestinians "ANTI SEMITE YOU HATE YOUR COUNTRY MUSLIM LOVER!"

You need to get a grip.
 
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