Iran protests: Reports of violence on third day of demonstrations

Iran protests: Reports of violence on third day of demonstrations

Iran protests: Violence on third day of demonstrations - BBC News

From the BBC - Some of the anti-government protests happening in Iranian cities have turned violent, footage appears to show.

Two demonstrators in Dorud in western Iran have sustained gunshot wounds, a video posted on social media and verified by BBC Persian shows.

Videos filmed elsewhere in the country show protesters setting fire to a police vehicles and there are reports of attacks on government buildings.

It is the biggest display of dissent since huge pro-reform rallies in 2009.

Demonstrators have ignored a warning by Iran's interior minister to avoid "illegal gatherings".

There are unconfirmed reports that the two protesters who were shot in Dorud have died.

In the town of Abhar in northern Iran, demonstrators have set fire to large banners bearing the picture of Iran's Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.

Meanwhile in Arak in central Iran, protesters have reportedly set fire to the local headquarters of the pro-government Basij militia.

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Although small, the anti-government protests on Saturday took on a much greater importance than the government-sponsored rallies.

It's not every day that there are thousands of people voicing opposition to the government.

As night fell, reports were still coming of protests in at least nine cities. There have been clashes with the police in some places.

The common factor in all of them has been protesters' demand for an end to clerical rule in Iran.

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The U.S. has an opportunity to get something right with regard to it's policy towards Iran. Despite how some people on here view Iran, the problem is not the Iranian people, it's the Iranian government. The population has been desperate for a change for years. The U.S. should find ways to assist the citizens of Iran to bring an end to clerical rule on their own terms. Iranians have overthrown a repressive regime before, they can do it again. Most Iranians do not want or pursue conflict with the U.S. There was a time when there was genuine friendship between the U.S. and Iran, long before we helped the British overthrew the government because we didn't want them nationalizing their oil.

I hope this President doesn't become impulsive and attempt some kind of military intervention. We start bombing Iran, regardless of the reason, Iranians will re-direct their hostility from the Supreme Counsel towards America. I hope the west finds a way to support the Iranian people in changing their nation for the better.

Imagine if the North Korea and Iran regimes fall almost simultaneously while ISIS is reduced to rubble.

Erod said:

Imagine if the North Korea and Iran regimes fall almost simultaneously while ISIS is reduced to rubble.

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And imagine how much praise you could pour on Trump for accomplishments he had nothing to do with.

Erod said:

Imagine if the North Korea and Iran regimes fall almost simultaneously while ISIS is reduced to rubble.

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I imagine you conservatives will praise Jesus Trump for farting. In other news, my Christmas Tree is still doing great. Praise Trump.

Jetboogieman said:

And imagine how much praise you could pour on Trump for accomplishments he had nothing to do with.

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Funnily enough, that would not be st all certain. As a matter of fact, a storyline of some probability could be related, that would not ignore the influence Trump's policies had had. You see, while the msm have wasted most of their energy on complaining about style and gruff blundrr much has been happening in the real world.
But let's watch for the moment and see how things work out.

MSgt said:

I imagine you conservatives will praise Jesus Trump for farting. In other news, my Christmas Tree is still doing great. Praise Trump.

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Hard to say, what conservatives will say. But the very thought already has liberals eating their hearts out in public forum.

Anti Government protests over there can get you killed in a heartbeat. I can only hope that they are more successful in their quest to achieve democracy and secularism than they were in 1979.

Erod said:

Imagine if the North Korea and Iran regimes fall almost simultaneously while ISIS is reduced to rubble.

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I wouldn't complain.

Serenity said:

Anti Government protests over there can get you killed in a heartbeat. I can only hope that they are more successful in their quest to achieve democracy and secularism than they were in 1979.

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The 1979 Revolution was fairly bloodless in the beginning, and unfortunately the religious zealots won out over the secularists. I have no doubt things will get very bad over there before they get better. No way the clerics go out without a bloodbatch happening. What I would hope would happen is that military commanders would ignore orders to kill the protesters and allow matters to play out.

joG said:

Hard to say, what conservatives will say. But the very thought already has liberals eating their hearts out in public forum.

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Not really. Conservatives have proven quite irrational and like to pretend that history began the moment Trump entered the White House, less than a year ago.

MSgt said:

Not really. Conservatives have proven quite irrational and like to pretend that history began the moment Trump entered the White House, less than a year ago.

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The conservatives I know actually believe history began earlier. But I guess folks find friends of the intellectual drpth they require.

Thank the Lord we don’t have a mealy-mouthed wishy-washy mullah butt kisser in the White House any longer!


The Iran people are finally getting wise as to how their money and wealth is being stolen and squandered!

Serenity said:

Anti Government protests over there can get you killed in a heartbeat. I can only hope that they are more successful in their quest to achieve democracy and secularism than they were in 1979.

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We have to start measuring "success" practically. Democracy is not ready made, which means we were (are) too quick to declare the Arab Spring as a failure. The transition to democracy throughout the region is going to take more than single protests, coups, and demonstrations. As it is, we saw dictators fall, autocrats offer concessions, and civil war. We are witnessing, what amounts to be, over a century's old philosophical contest playing out across the region and it will take generations.

And Iran has a tougher battle because of that 1979 history. Unlike the Arab countries, which continue to move their secular governments more towards democratic systems, Iran has to remove theocracy from their democracy. It will take the Iranian military. Not all of the clerical base supports Khomeini's vision. And some who do believe that the jurists, especially the Supreme Leader, holds far too much power. But those clerics who hold the real power do believe in Khomeini's vision and will not just surrender what they believe is God inspired. They will have to be forcefully removed.

volsrock said:

Thank the Lord we don’t have a mealy-mouthed wishy-washy mullah butt kisser in the White House any longer!

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Enter the typical "conservative" right on time, right joG?

Which mullah's ass did he kiss? The same asses every single President has kissed? The same asses that Trump has kissed? What you call "ass kissing" is just diplomacy.

But maybe you are right. We should all thank the Lord that we have a mean spirited, womanizing adulterer in the White House instead. He's all the things Mr. Jesus loves.

volsrock said:

The Iran people are finally getting wise as to how their money and wealth is being stolen and squandered!

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The "Iran people" have been wise to this since at least 1971 when the Shah threw his 2,500 year celebration of the Persian Empire. Hence the economic aspect of their Islamic Revolution and their constant political struggle against theocracy ever since.

But the funny thing is that you praise the "Iran people" for "getting wise" about how their money is squandered, while Americans do absolutely nothing about how our money is squandered and actually add money to the national debt. We flood the Middle East with money to support autocracy. At least the Middle East is Iran's region.

Hey joG, here's yet another "Conservative" who likes to think that history just began.

joG said:

The conservatives I know actually believe history began earlier. But I guess folks find friends of the intellectual drpth they require.

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The conservatives you know are probably actual conservatives who should be ashamed of what is representing them these days. The conservatives I know betrayed everything they used to pretend to believed in so that they could vote for an anti-thesis twice (Primary/General).

But hey, check out volsrock's post if the concept is still confusing. He thanks the "Lord" for giving him a ***** grabbing, thrice divorced, womanizer who celebrates adultery simply because he likes to believe that Obama was a secret Muslim who's mission was to obliterate America. How rational. Praise Jesus.

And how come it seems that most of you "very" conservatives are from the mooching state of Texas?

MSgt said:

Enter the typical "conservative" right on time, right joG?

Which mullah's ass did he kiss? The same asses every single President has kissed? The same asses that Trump has kissed? What you call "ass kissing" is just diplomacy.

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Can u name another Pres that gave Iran Gov $1.7-billion in cash?

Eisenhower opened this goddamn can-O-worms in 1953 ............. jackass ...................... now we have Trump & Bibi attempting to topple the government in Iran ................. oh what a tangled web we weave ..............

Serenity said:

Anti Government protests over there can get you killed in a heartbeat. I can only hope that they are more successful in their quest to achieve democracy and secularism than they were in 1979.

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it is not our business; we ****ed that pooch in 1953 ....................

volsrock said:

Can u name another Pres that gave Iran Gov $1.7-billion in cash?

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- I can name every President from Eisenhower to Trump who have salted extreme economic and military aid to Muslim governments throughout the region from Pakistan through to Egypt.
- I can name Eisenhower, Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon, Ford, and Carter who made Iran the fifth most powerful military on the planet with a developing nuclear weapon's program.
- I can name Reagan, who supplied economic and military aid to Islamists in Afghanistan during the 1980s, which inadvertently helped to create the Taliban and Al-Qaeda.
- I can name Clinton, who refused to extend a hand to Iran even as Iran was supplying economic, military, and humanitarian aid to Massoud and the Northern Alliance, which was actively fighting the Taliban in Afghanistan years prior to 9/11.
- I can name Bush, who refused Iran's assistance to help train a new Afghan military on the grounds that Condoleezae Rice ignorantly believed that Iran was funding the Taliban.

But lets play the political Obama game and pretend that Iran is the big bad wolf, despite Iran having not taken part in a war or conflict since 1988 and has never even attacked the U.S. Let us all pretend that Iran is never going to achieve nuclear power and keep playing the vanity game so that when it finally achieves, it will be completely on Iran's terms.

Iran has been a scapegoat for our ignorant politicians and media since the Hostage Crisis of 1979 and it only serves to distract people from the irresponsible House of Saud and the Islamist development that has proven too difficult for most to understand. When in doubt, give the people "Iran" and then take smiling publicity photos shaking an Arab leaders hand in Egypt, Saudi Arabia, or Jordan. Iran is a designed and convenient enemy and is based largely on a grudge that has long outlived its expiration date.

Erod said:

Imagine if the North Korea and Iran regimes fall almost simultaneously while ISIS is reduced to rubble.

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Imagine if Gaddafi, the Taliban, and Saddam fall.... What a beautiful world.

Erod said:

Imagine if the North Korea and Iran regimes fall almost simultaneously while ISIS is reduced to rubble.

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Most of the liberals would either make it sound like they're bad things or give Pres. Obama the credit.

Lerxst said:

Iran protests: Reports of violence on third day of demonstrations

Iran protests: Violence on third day of demonstrations - BBC News



The U.S. has an opportunity to get something right with regard to it's policy towards Iran. Despite how some people on here view Iran, the problem is not the Iranian people, it's the Iranian government. The population has been desperate for a change for years. The U.S. should find ways to assist the citizens of Iran to bring an end to clerical rule on their own terms. Iranians have overthrown a repressive regime before, they can do it again. Most Iranians do not want or pursue conflict with the U.S. There was a time when there was genuine friendship between the U.S. and Iran, long before we helped the British overthrew the government because we didn't want them nationalizing their oil.

I hope this President doesn't become impulsive and attempt some kind of military intervention. We start bombing Iran, regardless of the reason, Iranians will re-direct their hostility from the Supreme Counsel towards America. I hope the west finds a way to support the Iranian people in changing their nation for the better.

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Awwww that really sucks....for Obama.

All that effort and work that went into not only legitimizing the Iranian regime, but that went into ensuring they recieved a cash windfall to boot

That cash was no doubt spent on its people and to further Irans humanitarian endeavors...:roll:

Marie Harf was on Fox this weekend and claimed Obama's reluctance to acknoweldge and support the 2009 protestors was because the Iranian protesters told the Obama administration to NOT publicly and openly support their rebellion.

Huh ??!! Its Marie Harf so Ill let that one slide. I have a weakness for extremely hot blondes who rock the sexy Librarian look, but still

Fenton said:

Awwww that really sucks....for Obama.

All that effort and work that went into not only legitimizing the Iranian regime, but that went into ensuring they recieved a cash windfall to boot

That cash was no doubt spent on its people and to further Irans humanitarian endeavors...:roll:

Marie Harf was on Fox this weekend and claimed Obama's reluctance to acknoweldge and support the 2009 protestors was because the Iranian protesters told the Obama administration to NOT publicly and openly support their rebellion.

Huh ??!! Its Marie Harf so Ill let that one slide. I have a weakness for extremely hot blondes who rock the sexy Librarian look, but still

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I agree that the Obama strategy for dealing with Iran failed. Just like presidents that came before him. That's why I'm saying we have opportunity to get it right this time.