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Couple killed after warning daughter of boyfriend's suspected neo-Nazi views

HenryChinaski said:
Sad. I’ve been saying for the past year that the climate the Trump has created, it’s only a matter of time until another Timothy McVeigh appears.
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Thr climate has been there for years. I saw race relations seeming to get better in the late 90s ans 2000s. Then the race pimp came into office and we were set back several decades.

Do not take this as support for Trump. I really dont like him either. Just saying that this sort of thing seems more prevalent now because its what the media knows you will eat.
 
Hatuey said:
Lol, see what I mean? It begins. Read the dozens of articles on this. The parents didn't want him around their daughter because of his beliefs on race and hate spreading.

Their statements on why they asked their daughter not to see this kid are all over the internet. Why are you talking about "we"?


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The article posted says they suspected he was a white supremacist but they had no proof. Maybe he was, maybe they were wrong, maybe they were liars. None of us know. Maybe if he lives we will find out.

Right now we dont know why he shot them or turned the gun on himself. The reason is still a mystery. Maybe someone in that house can shed some light about what happened nut so far they have not.

And no i dont see what you mean. Im not defending him or trying to diagnosis him. Im saying there are to many unanswered questions to draw the conclusions your making.

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Anthony60 said:
I hereby nominate this for one of the top ten dumbest statements ever on DP!
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Nah wouldnt even break the top 100, have you seen the CT section?
 
trouble13 said:
The article posted says they suspected he was a white supremacist but they had no proof.
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Good grief.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/loca...0acf0774e64_story.html?utm_term=.53f7108fca0b

Neighbors said the display of hate in a Lorton, Va., community was as large as it was shocking: a swastika roughly 40 feet across mowed into the grass of a community field.

Tire marks from a riding mower ran from the lot and up a road to the home of a teen who was known as troubled in the neighborhood, leaving little mystery as to the perpetrator, a neighbor said. Residents of Gunston Manor were soon debating how to handle the situation: go to police or talk to the teen’s family directly?
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The entire community knew who this kid was and talked to his parents about what he was pushing months before he shot these two people. In the days after the shooting, community members sent out an e-mail asking people to come forward about the swastika incident which they mentioned in the same sentence as the shooting. Why are you still sitting here talking about 'we don't know'?

Do you need Scooby Doo to help you figure out this mystery?
 
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HenryChinaski said:
Trump had given a voice and enabled cockroaches that generally used to stay in the dark and keep their hate to the Internet. Trump is the white supremacists wet dream.
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According to Thought Police like you, anyone who disagrees with you or otherwise doesn't toe your line, is somehow enabling criminals and anti-social elements, or somehow bringing about the destruction of society by one means or another.
 
Hatuey said:
Good grief.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/loca...0acf0774e64_story.html?utm_term=.53f7108fca0b



The entire community knew who this kid was and talked to his parents about what he was pushing months before he shot these two people. In the days after the shooting, community members sent out an e-mail asking people to come forward about the swastika incident which they mentioned in the same sentence as the shooting. Why are you still sitting here talking about 'we don't know'?

Do you need Scooby Doo to help you figure out this mystery?
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Why are you good greifing me. Nothing you posred is in the OP. Im discussing what was.

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trouble13 said:
Why are you good greifing me. Nothing you posred is in the OP. Im discussing what was.
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Alrighty, let me make it clear for you. Sometimes, when you are on a debate forum, you are expected to do more than read an OP before you open your mouth about what 'we know' and what we 'don't know'. Why do I have to explain this to somebody with 5K posts?

Is this your first rodeo? Or are you ready to come clean and tell everyone it was you that didn't know whether this kid was a neo-nazi or not? Lol, an entire community realizes they have a neo-nazi in their midst, they speak to the parents, the shooting happens, and all anybody can think of is the swastika that they knew this kid had carved into a community lot a few months before. Yep! Sure sounds like a mystery for Scooby and the gang!

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HenryChinaski said:
Trump had given a voice and enabled cockroaches that generally used to stay in the dark and keep their hate to the Internet. Trump is the white supremacists wet dream.
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You don't believe in personal responsibility do you?
 
upsideguy said:
He made it safe for Neo-nazi's to come out of the woodwork. "Some" even say he has encouraged them.



It is no wonder. Trump* is an inspiration to that group. One of them, a "violent white trash asshole", grew up to become President.
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So, your calling the President a 'violent white trash asshole'? I never heard him called violent before. Can you explain?
 
Hatuey said:
Alrighty, let me make it clear for you. Sometimes, when you are on a debate forum, you are expected to do more than read an OP before you open your mouth about what 'we know' and what we 'don't know'. Why do I have to explain this to somebody with 5K posts?

Is this your first rodeo? Or are you ready to come clean and tell everyone it was you that didn't know whether this kid was a neo-nazi or not? Lol, an entire community realizes they have a neo-nazi in their midst, they speak to the parents, the shooting happens, and all anybody can think of is the swastika that they knew this kid had carved into a community lot a few months before. Yep! Sure sounds like a mystery for Scooby and the gang!

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I cant read it before you post it, or do you expect me to scour the internet and read every article i can find before im allowed to have an opinion about the OP.

Now i will grant you from your article it sounds like he did mow a swayz sticka in the grass and it might be evidence that he is a nazi sympathizer.

It may also be that he is a dumb kid prone to doing immature yasteless acts that he thinks are funny. Either case nothing presented so far shows a link to a politicaly motivated hate crime.

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upsideguy said:
He made it safe for Neo-nazi's to come out of the woodwork. "Some" even say he has encouraged them.



It is no wonder. Trump* is an inspiration to that group. One of them, a "violent white trash asshole", grew up to become President.
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How dod he make it safe. Did he make nazis a protected class or something?

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trouble13 said:
I cant read it before you post it, or do you expect me to scour the internet and read every article i can find before im allowed to have an opinion about the OP.
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Do I expect you to... know what it is you're talking about before you tell everyone else what they know or don't know? Yes.

trouble13 said:
It may also be that he is a dumb kid prone to doing immature yasteless acts that he thinks are funny. Either case nothing presented so far shows a link to a politicaly motivated hate crime.
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Didn't I call it? I called it didn't I? That this would happen? I feel like a fortune teller. The first step is denial, then comes downplaying it, you kind of already skipped ahead and made it look like these parents may have been lying. Only a matter of time before you come through your shell and tell us what a real nazi is.


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HenryChinaski said:
Trump had given a voice and enabled cockroaches that generally used to stay in the dark and keep their hate to the Internet. Trump is the white supremacists wet dream.
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No. Of the politicians out there Steve King is their wet dream.
 
Hatuey said:
Do I expect you to... know what it is you're talking about before you tell everyone else what they know or don't know? Yes.



Didn't I call it? I called it didn't I? That this would happen? I feel like a fortune teller. The first step is denial, then comes downplaying it, you kind of already skipped ahead and made it look like these parents may have been lying. Only a matter of time before you come through your shell and tell us what a real nazi is.


We Use to Be Better!
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Of course i know what im talking about. Im discussing the information in the thread. What your doing is jumping to conclussions. Your pretending to know things that you dont. Your type of thinking is what comvicts innocent people in a court of law. You let your feelings overrule reason.

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trouble13 said:
Of course i know what im talking about.
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Except of course, the reason why everyone thinks this kid was a neo-nazi. As well as the relationship between the interventions by the community, swastikas being mowed into lawns by this kid, e-mails sent out to community members associating the shooting with the swastika, the shooting itself.

How long until you come out and tell us that you know what a real nazi is? Oh wait, you already started. It was just a 'dumb kid' doing yasteless things he thinks are funny... like shooting people and stuff. Halarious jokes he's got there! Those dead parents probably died after falling over from laughter.

Go on, tell us what a real nazi would do.

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Hatuey said:
Except of course, the reason why everyone thinks this kid was a neo-nazi. As well as the relationship between the interventions by the community, swastikas being mowed into lawns by this kid, e-mails sent out to community members associating the shooting with the swastika, the shooting itself.

How long until you come out and tell us that you know what a real nazi is? Oh wait, you already started. It was just a 'dumb kid' doing yasteless things he thinks are funny... like shooting people and stuff. Halarious jokes he's got there! Those dead parents probably died after falling falling over from laughter.

Go on, tell us what a real nazi would do.

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Spoken like a true bigot

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trouble13 said:
Spoken like a true bigot
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Bigotry of neo-nazis. That's a new one. I'll take you backing down from your bull**** argument as an admission you had no idea what it was you were talking about, but you felt like defending anyways.
 
holbritter said:
You live a sheltered comfy life if that's all you got to label someone violent.
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From the person who confuses corrupt with ballsy. I'm not going to take thinking lessons from an intellectual lightweight pretending to be a moderate.
 
Hatuey said:
Bigotry of neo-nazis. That's a new one. I'll take you backing down from your bull**** argument as an admission you had no idea what it was you were talking about, but you felt like defending anyways.
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Again you dont know the kid is a Nazi your making a narrow minded assimption which is exactly what a bigot does

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trouble13 said:
Again you dont know the kid is a Nazi your making a narrow minded assimption which is exactly what a bigot does
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A narrow assumption... based... on ... him carving swastikas, the community knowing it was him, and them writing e-mails to each other discussing the relationship between the swastika and the shooting of parents who called him a neo-nazi, and didn't want him around their daughter.

Lol, as I said 'bigotry against neo-nazis, that's a new one'.
 
Hatuey said:
From the person who confuses corrupt with ballsy. I'm not going to take thinking lessons from an intellectual lightweight pretending to be a moderate.
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I explained what I meant by that, you must have missed it. I've also explained my lean a few times, so look that up as well.
As far as being an intellectual lightweight, insults are often the recourse of those who don't comprehend differences of opinions. Congratulations.
 
holbritter said:
I explained what I meant by that, you must have missed it. I've also explained my lean a few times, so look that up as well.
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Here we go with the 'this is why I chose to not define myself as a right winger'.

As far as being an intellectual lightweight, insults are often the recourse of those who don't comprehend differences of opinions. Congratulations.
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Sigh: You live a sheltered comfy life if that's all you got to label someone violent.

You try to make it personal with others by baiting, then you complain about others making it personal with you. Why don't you try debating somebody in the same weight class as you?
 
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