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Obama administration undermined anti-Hezbollah task force to help secure Iran nuke deal

Mycroft said:
Do you REALLY think a government press release...while Obama is still in office...is going to admit the kind of behavior and actions that are revealed in that Politico report?
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wow, just wow. Its a press release extolling the success of an operation against Hezbollah from two years ago. and it was an operation during the negotiations with Iran. so that proves your conservative masters are lying to you again. even a conservative like you can see this so when you cling to it you'll be just another conservative who chooses narrative over integrity. You're not serving America when you cling to lies.

Hey look, the librul media was covering for President Obama two years ago.

WASHINGTON -- The U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration has announced a "significant enforcement activity" against the Lebanon-based extremist group Hezbollah's financing.



https://www.cbsnews.com/news/dea-targets-hezbollahs-money-laundering-ties-to-cartels/
 
eohrnberger said:
A regional power while under crippling economic sanctions? :lamo
Yeah, right. Barely enough food and medicine to feed and care for their own people, a regional power. :lamo
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eorhn, scoffing at things isn't debate. Its just scoffing.

Hey listen, Iran didn't become the regional power they are today until Obama did the Iran nuclear deal, AND gave them billions of bucks (and yes, I know those were frozen assets that were theirs)
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Okay eorhn, back that up. show that Iran was not doing anything in Iraq Yemen Saudi arabia etc because of the sanctions. don't whine about me. Back up your narrative.

Because they are making money hand over fist selling to Iran. I wonder what their reaction is going to be when Iran tests their first nuclear weapon, or provide a dirty bomb to Hezbollah?
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eohrn, you need to understand, you posted that "making money hand over fist selling to Iran" narrative not based on any knowledge. It was based on the fact that you needed a string of words so you could cling to your narrative. As far as your obedient "iran getting a bomb" narrative and even more obedient " give a bomb to Hezbollah" narrative all I can say is sorry, I believe 3 of our oldest allies over your conservative masters. Your conservative masters have consistently lied to you but you refuse to acknowledge it.

I was referring to DP members. But perhaps that escaped your brilliance and intelligence. :roll:
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I'm a DP member and I posted 3 of our oldest allies telling you the opposite of what your conservative masters told you. anyhoo, while that’s soaking in, what do you think about me shredding the lying conservative narrative this thread is based on. It literally took me one minute and all I did was type “ Project Cassandra + DEA” into google. You really have to ask yourself why you are so willing to believe something so easily debunked.
 
Saladin4 said:
You sound like a frightened old man......Still blaming "Obama" for everything...Pathetic
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Oh please...You progressives blamed GW Bush for every one of Obama's failures for the entire 8 years.
 
Mycroft said:
This Politico guy is getting some push back...from former Obama employees, if not from anyone actually involved with the issue.
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:lol: So I suppose you expect the dishonest former cabal to what? Admit it? What do you expect Harf or anyone from that administration to say? 'Yeah, we did that...Pulled a good one didn't we?'
 
Vern said:
Eohrn, they were already a regional power. See how again your brain creates a narrative out of thin air so you can cling to the latest conservative narratives. And look how you cling to the conservative narratives about “the world is much more at risk”. How come our allies don’t agree with you?

None of the three — Britain, France and Germany — believes Iran is in violation, and each has said publicly it will not renegotiate the nuclear agreement.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...0e2e1d41e38_story.html?utm_term=.fc0b38680cf8



see above.
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And their populations being overrun by Muslim immigrants I am sure has nothing to do with that stance.
 
eohrnberger said:
Hard to imagine that Obama thought that making his Iran deal, raising Iran to the position of a regional power, was somehow in the best interests of the US and the region. My guess is that Valerie Jarrett, a long time and close Obama adviser, has been working on him for years to get this done.

As a result of this, the region, the US, and the world are much more at risk.
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Because a nuclear arms race in the M.E. would be so stabilizing?
 
Vern said:
Is pointing out the facts that contradict the "story" really "pushback". Look what I found at the DEA website.

The United States Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) today announced significant enforcement activity including arrests targeting Lebanese Hizballah’s External Security Organization Business Affairs Component (BAC), which is involved in international criminal activities such as drug trafficking and drug proceed money laundering. These proceeds are used to purchase weapons for Hizballah for its activities in Syria. This ongoing investigation spans the globe and involves numerous international law enforcement agencies in seven countries, and once again highlights the dangerous global nexus between drug trafficking and terrorism…...

Beginning in February 2015, based on DEA investigative leads, European authorities initiated an operation targeting the network’s criminal activities in that region. Since then, law enforcement authorities, closely supported by DEA, have uncovered an intricate network of money couriers who collect and transport millions of euros in drug proceeds from Europe to the Middle East. The currency is then paid in Colombia to drug traffickers using the Hawala disbursement system. A large portion of the drug proceeds was found to transit through Lebanon, and a significant percentage of these proceeds are benefitting terrorist organizations, namely Hizballah.

https://www.dea.gov/divisions/hq/2016/hq020116.shtml

that press release from Feb 2016 proves you've been fed another steaming pile of fake news from your conservative masters.
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So, politico is now conservative? That's a good one....
 
Vern said:
eorhn, scoffing at things isn't debate. Its just scoffing.
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Then you should try not scoffing at others in your posts. I'd say that'd be a really good start.

Okay eorhn, back that up. show that Iran was not doing anything in Iraq Yemen Saudi arabia etc because of the sanctions. don't whine about me. Back up your narrative.



eohrn, you need to understand, you posted that "making money hand over fist selling to Iran" narrative not based on any knowledge. It was based on the fact that you needed a string of words so you could cling to your narrative. As far as your obedient "iran getting a bomb" narrative and even more obedient " give a bomb to Hezbollah" narrative all I can say is sorry, I believe 3 of our oldest allies over your conservative masters.
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Screw you and your 'conservative masters' crack.
you should try not scoffing at others in your posts.

Good bye.

Your conservative masters have consistently lied to you but you refuse to acknowledge it.



I'm a DP member and I posted 3 of our oldest allies telling you the opposite of what your conservative masters told you. anyhoo, while that’s soaking in, what do you think about me shredding the lying conservative narrative this thread is based on. It literally took me one minute and all I did was type “ Project Cassandra + DEA” into google. You really have to ask yourself why you are so willing to believe something so easily debunked.
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iguanaman said:
Because a nuclear arms race in the M.E. would be so stabilizing?
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Enabling a radical Islamic theocracy, known for their support, as in arms and money, to a known terrorist organization, who have publicly and unashamedly declared death to Israel and death to the United States (apparently a state policy position) to develop both a nuclear arms program AND an ICBM program isn't? :roll:

No, the only sane option is to deny such a state such weapon systems by whatever means necessary.

By enabling such a state in the region to develop such weapons systems you are in fact instigating and promoting such a nuclear arms race in the M.E.
 
HowardBThiname said:
That is quite the read.

Obama's obsession with making the Iran deal was always odd. Was it so important to him to give himself some sort of "legacy" that he sacrificed the intel and project on Hezbollah? Obama always seemed ready to give radical factions a leg-up, which was exemplified in the Arab Spring fiascos, and the resulting chaos in Egypt, Libya, and Syria. Obama potentially had the worst foreign policy we've seen in decades, but I think that will only come out through the lens of history -- years from now -- as the results become more obvious.

This is an interesting turn-of-events.
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Poor Obama, he had one redeeming quality. Obama had the manners market all cornered up. He was great host to foreign emissaries &
not bad on Television reminding me of a former mayor we had here in NY David Dinkins but on a larger scale.

You are historically spot on. Obama was always kind of slow to move on situations & capable of listening & acting on the position
championed by the last member of his entourage in critical situations. His advisers were terrible, listened to Mrs. Clinton & Susan Rice
in Libya Egypt, and Syria. Victoria Nuland in Crimea & Ukraine and I think poster #6 has it right as I expect he followed the
advice of Valerie Jarret an Iranian ethnic to make the ugly deal with Iran. His advisors were horrid leading to a completely
failed foreign policy & his Iranian indulgence may turn out to be the worst catastrophe of all.
 
slick said:
Poor Obama, he had one redeeming quality. Obama had the manners market all cornered up. He was great host to foreign emissaries &
not bad on Television reminding me of a former mayor we had here in NY David Dinkins but on a larger scale.

You are historically spot on. Obama was always kind of slow to move on situations & capable of listening & acting on the position
championed by the last member of his entourage in critical situations. His advisers were terrible, listened to Mrs. Clinton & Susan Rice
in Libya Egypt, and Syria. Victoria Nuland in Crimea & Ukraine and I think poster #6 has it right as I expect he followed the
advice of Valerie Jarret an Iranian ethnic to make the ugly deal with Iran. His advisors were horrid leading to a completely
failed foreign policy & his Iranian indulgence may turn out to be the worst catastrophe of all.
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Funny to see you so afraid of "Obama"...
 
Vern said:
Is pointing out the facts that contradict the "story" really "pushback". Look what I found at the DEA website.

The United States Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) today announced significant enforcement activity including arrests targeting Lebanese Hizballah’s External Security Organization Business Affairs Component (BAC), which is involved in international criminal activities such as drug trafficking and drug proceed money laundering. These proceeds are used to purchase weapons for Hizballah for its activities in Syria. This ongoing investigation spans the globe and involves numerous international law enforcement agencies in seven countries, and once again highlights the dangerous global nexus between drug trafficking and terrorism…...

Beginning in February 2015, based on DEA investigative leads, European authorities initiated an operation targeting the network’s criminal activities in that region. Since then, law enforcement authorities, closely supported by DEA, have uncovered an intricate network of money couriers who collect and transport millions of euros in drug proceeds from Europe to the Middle East. The currency is then paid in Colombia to drug traffickers using the Hawala disbursement system. A large portion of the drug proceeds was found to transit through Lebanon, and a significant percentage of these proceeds are benefitting terrorist organizations, namely Hizballah.

https://www.dea.gov/divisions/hq/2016/hq020116.shtml

that press release from Feb 2016 proves you've been fed another steaming pile of fake news from your conservative masters.
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Oh Vern, nothing you posted contradicts what I said. You found the DEA site that said the DEA finally got the DOJ to allow them to get a warrant arrest someone. That's cute.
 
NonoBadDog said:
From Fox News:

Obama administration undermined anti-Hezbollah task force to help secure Iran nuke deal, report says | Fox News

The very extensive report from Politico, complete with documentation:
The secret backstory of how Obama let Hezbollah off the hook
An ambitious U.S. task force targeting Hezbollah's billion-dollar criminal enterprise ran headlong into the White House's desire for a nuclear deal with Iran.








https://www.politico.com/interactives/2017/obama-hezbollah-drug-trafficking-investigation/

Quite the read. There will be an extremely negative reaction to this tomorrow morning in Congress. I will be watching Feinstein's reaction. Her's will be the lead indicator of how the left reacts to this in Congress. I bet she didn't even know.
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Hezbollah is a natural enemy of ISIS. The US has a long history of turning a blind eye to the drug dealing misdeeds of any enemy of our enemies. This dates back to at least WW2 and the Italian Mafia.

Not that I expect any of the Right Wingers here to understand any of this. But, it is what it is.
 
eohrnberger said:
Enabling a radical Islamic theocracy, known for their support, as in arms and money, to a known terrorist organization, who have publicly and unashamedly declared death to Israel and death to the United States (apparently a state policy position) to develop both a nuclear arms program AND an ICBM program isn't? :roll:

No, the only sane option is to deny such a state such weapon systems by whatever means necessary.

By enabling such a state in the region to develop such weapons systems you are in fact instigating and promoting such a nuclear arms race in the M.E.
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Another war in the M.E. is your answer? Apparently you think the others have worked out so well we cannot get enough of them. I hope your children are not on the line.
 
calamity said:
Hezbollah is a natural enemy of ISIS. The US has a long history of turning a blind eye to the drug dealing misdeeds of any enemy of our enemies. This dates back to at least WW2 and the Italian Mafia.

Not that I expect any of the Right Wingers here to understand any of this. But, it is what it is.
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In Iran/Contra not only was Reagan selling arms and military parts to Iran but the CIA was selling drugs for money to pay the Contra's. This pales in comparison and Reagan is their hero.
 
calamity said:
Hezbollah is a natural enemy of ISIS. The US has a long history of turning a blind eye to the drug dealing misdeeds of any enemy of our enemies. This dates back to at least WW2 and the Italian Mafia.

Not that I expect any of the Right Wingers here to understand any of this. But, it is what it is.
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Turning a blind eye to criminals that want to smuggle drugs into our country is a good thing?
They followed cocaine shipments, some from Latin America to West Africa and on to Europe and the Middle East, and others through Venezuela and Mexico to the United States. They tracked the river of dirty cash as it was laundered by, among other tactics, buying American used cars and shipping them to Africa. And with the help of some key cooperating witnesses, the agents traced the conspiracy, they believed, to the innermost circle of Hezbollah and its state sponsors in Iran.
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**** that. I am not going to say, "Not that I expect any of the Right Wingers here to understand any of this. But, it is what it is" because I try not to use idiotically stupid broad brushes like that. I will say, "Not that I expect you to understand any of this. But, it is what it is."

That has to be the most butt stupid post I have seen in weeks.
 
iguanaman said:
Another war in the M.E. is your answer? Apparently you think the others have worked out so well we cannot get enough of them. I hope your children are not on the line.
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No, not necessarily, economic sanctions for one.

Obama had an opening, with Iran's Green Revolution, but he failed to take action, and failed very badly there. Since then, there hasn't been an opening, at least not that I'm aware of.

Even doing nothing, leaving the sanctions in place, would have been preferable to enabling Iran, as Obama's Iran deal has.
 
eohrnberger said:
No, not necessarily, economic sanctions for one.

Obama had an opening, with Iran's Green Revolution, but he failed to take action, and failed very badly there. Since then, there hasn't been an opening, at least not that I'm aware of.

Even doing nothing, leaving the sanctions in place, would have been preferable to enabling Iran, as Obama's Iran deal has.
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How does shipping nearly all of their highly enriched uranium out of the country and filling their plutonium reactor with cement "enable" Iran to make nuclear weapons? Your partisan nonsense is how we got into war with Iraq. Russia, China and most of European stated they had no intention of continuing sanctions if this deal fell thru. So there would be no sanctions and no reason for Iran to hold off building nukes, leaving invasion as the ONLY option.
 
NonoBadDog said:
Turning a blind eye to criminals that want to smuggle drugs into our country is a good thing?


**** that. I am not going to say, "Not that I expect any of the Right Wingers here to understand any of this. But, it is what it is" because I try not to use idiotically stupid broad brushes like that. I will say, "Not that I expect you to understand any of this. But, it is what it is."

That has to be the most butt stupid post I have seen in weeks.
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I didn't say it is a good thing. I said we've been doing it for generations.
 
iguanaman said:
In Iran/Contra not only was Reagan selling arms and military parts to Iran but the CIA was selling drugs for money to pay the Contra's. This pales in comparison and Reagan is their hero.
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I bet NanoDog will either deny it happened or justify it...because Reagan.
 
iguanaman said:
How does shipping nearly all of their highly enriched uranium out of the country and filling their plutonium reactor with cement "enable" Iran to make nuclear weapons?
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Well I'll be dammed. They did.

[h=3]Iran 'fills Arak nuclear reactor core with concrete' - BBC News - BBC.com[/h]www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-35285095
Jan 11, 2016 - Iran removes the core of its Arak nuclear reactor and fills it with cement, the Fars news agency says - part of a nuclear deal agreed last year. ... Plutonium production: Iran has agreed to reconfigure its heavy water reactor at Arak, so that it will only produce a tiny amount of plutonium as a by-product of power ...

[h=3]Iran fills heavy water nuclear reactor core with cement: Fars - Reuters[/h]https://www.reuters.com/article/us-iran-nuclear-araq-idUSKCN0UP1Y120160111
Jan 11, 2016 - Iran has removed the core of its Arak heavy water nuclear reactor and filled it withcement as required under a nuclear deal signed with world powers last year, ... Any such move, reducing the plant's ability to produce plutonium, might signal imminent implementation of the nuclear deal and clear the way for ...

[h=3]Iran pours concrete into nuclear reactor, expects sanctions relief - The ...[/h]https://www.washingtonpost.com/.../iran...concrete...reactor.../67011cda-b8a1-11e5-b...
Jan 11, 2016 - Iran removed the core of its plutonium reactor and filled it with concrete Monday, paving the way for economic and financial sanctions to be lifted soon. The work that effectively rendered the reactor at Arak harmless was the last major hurdle for Iran to fulfill its commitments under a landmark deal reached ...
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Your partisan nonsense is how we got into war with Iraq. Russia, China and most of European stated they had no intention of continuing sanctions if this deal fell thru. So there would be no sanctions and no reason for Iran to hold off building nukes, leaving invasion as the ONLY option.
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Still, their ICBM program.
 
beerftw said:
The thing with that group is it is a political party, a legitimate militia, and a terrorist group all in one yet separate, Even that geoup does not agree with eachother, which makes it hard to determine who mis who short of labelling the whole group as terrorists.
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Terrorist group cancels out legitimate militia. They are also drug dealers. However it's clear that Obama Bin laden had a soft spot in his heart for them.
 
calamity said:
I didn't say it is a good thing. I said we've been doing it for generations.
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calamity said:
I bet NanoDog will either deny it happened or justify it...because Reagan.
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If one ****s themselves for generations then one should continue to **** themselves? That's an odd philosophy.

As the task force investigators intensified their focus on Safieddine, they were contacted out of the blue by Asher, the Defense Department official, who was at Special Operations Command tracking the money used to provide ragtag Iraqi Shiite militias with sophisticated weapons for use against U.S. troops, including the new and lethal IED known as the “Explosively Formed Penetrator.” The armor-piercing charges were so powerful that they were ripping M1 Abrams tanks in half.

“Nobody had seen weapons like these,” Asher told POLITICO. “They could blow the side off a building.”

Asher’s curiosity had been piqued by evidence linking the IED network to phone numbers intercepted in the Colombia investigation. Before long, he traced the unusual alliance to a number allegedly used by Safieddine in Iran.

“I had no clue who he was,” Asher recalled. “But this guy was sending money into Iraq, to kill American soldiers.”
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NonoBadDog said:
If one ****s themselves for generations then one should continue to **** themselves? That's an odd philosophy.
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No. I'm just drawing attention to your hypocrisy. Obama does it, you all lose your minds. Reagan did it, you either deny it happened or justify it because...Communism.
 
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