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White Nationalist Now Faces First-Degree Murder in Charlottesville Killing

CMPancake said:
Because in context, their violence is nowhere near as impacting and as lasting as the death of millions of people. You look at context the way Trump looks at veggies. You know it's there, but you rather not indulge yourself.
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Do you REALLY believe that the United States of America is under threat of becoming National Socialist? Ever? they are not a threat other than thier little tiki torch rallies, I would say you are in need of some context, not me.

listing violent attacks of both groups, you see that ANTIFA has been far more active.


You didn't answer the question so I did it for you.
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Except I answered the question as plainly as possible for you. You just really don't want to admit that Nazis are worse than ANTIFA.[/QUOTE]


list all the nazi attacks in the united states in the last year or two.
 
trouble13 said:
He could be found innocent if he could prove that he did not have control of the vehicle. Say the car had a mechanical failure or he had a heart attack. Things like that could prove him innocent. I doubt either were at play here but there are circumstances that could get him a not guilty verdict.

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Not likely though, most likely if it was a panic type thing he will get involuntary manslaughter charge which is actually very mild a sentence compared to murder. As has been stated, involuntary manslaughter is given when no intention to kill is there, but negligence caused a death that was avoidable. There is a possibility it could have been caused by unavoidable circumstances, but the chances are slim.


But people have killed way more and gotten off the hook, I remember reading an article where a really old man was aquitted of manslaughter for killing and injuring way more, because he panicked when protesters started attacking his car at a traffic stop and he ended up ploing through a crown.
 
beerftw said:
Not likely though, most likely if it was a panic type thing he will get involuntary manslaughter charge which is actually very mild a sentence compared to murder. As has been stated, involuntary manslaughter is given when no intention to kill is there, but negligence caused a death that was avoidable. There is a possibility it could have been caused by unavoidable circumstances, but the chances are slim.


But people have killed way more and gotten off the hook, I remember reading an article where a really old man was aquitted of manslaughter for killing and injuring way more, because he panicked when protesters started attacking his car at a traffic stop and he ended up ploing through a crown.
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If I remember the video correctly he turned his vehicle into the crowd. I believe that's enough to get him with premeditation. That will be used as evidence that me made a concise choice to mow people down. If he had simply got on his car and drove off in a relativity straight line, his defense could argue he panicked and was fleeing.

Premeditation does not mean he planned it out days or hours before. It means he made a concise decision to kill. Turning your car into a crowd is evidence of premiditation.

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calamity said:
Even if the counter protesters started the brawl--not that you've proven they did, but "if"--it still does not justify intentionally running a car into a group of people walking down a street.
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People in that group were fighting as well, the video shows this. So your testament of the group doing nothing is already wrong at face value.

Let me get this straight so you cannot miss it this time

I give nothing and care nothing for the jackass driving the car. He is going to serve his punishment, as he should and justice will be done. My issue is with the people who showed up ready for a full out war and then crying that someone innocent got hurt in the process. When more then a few of these domestic terrorist, are going to get off scot free.
 
KerouacJack said:
You're a wolf in sheep's clothing. Trying to sway apologists to side to with white supremacist scumbags through the ruse of honest discussion... you're not fooling anyone with half a brain.
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Admitting to only having half a brain... that's a new one on me. :lamo

Though your thin veiled attempt at trying to brand a white supremacist sympathizer is still welcome. Its not like people who actually try to have a discussion on this topic don't get enough of those as is, so at least you stuck to form.

Same as Calamity, so let me explain
I care nothing for the white supremacist, as they are not the issue here.

Go try to be subversive somewhere else.
 
MSgt said:
How very Trump of you. I don't miss the point. You just celebrate a position that relies on others to be obtuse with you.
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Still missing the point, even when its is shown to you... how am I not surprised..
 
Tigerace117 said:
AntiFa is not an "actual terrorist group".
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-Definition-

the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.
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When their actions stop mirroring this simple definition, then you might actually start to be right.

Until then however, you will keep earning similar derision.
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OlNate said:
Honestly, given your response, I think I'll stay on the hand already dealt. You were overreaching with your first response, you're flat busted with this one.

Take it easy, Ob...
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Ohhh... bronze medal material, just barely.

Too bad I keep coming back to this site for intellectual debate, only to run into such scathing rebuttals...
 
Hatuey said:
Again, for you to answer that she has any fault in being murdered when you have:

A) No evidence she was involved in any fighting
B) No evidence that she was involved in attacking James Fields

Is pretty stupid. We know for a fact James Fields was at the Vanguard America rally. Less than an hour later, he was at the opposite rally running people over. Your argument becomes stupid, because I could just as easily argue that if he had stayed within his hate group circle, he would have NEVER run people over. See how that works? Only we know it doesn't. Nobody is responsible for you taking the action to ram your car into hundreds of people. That's on you.

I don't care what your opinion is when it's so absurdly stupid, it has reached the conclusion that if take the conscious decision to run people over, they are at fault.
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Yet I still would have answered such a speculative question with as well thought out of an answer as I could give. Instead of just trying to hijack the thread and ramble on about something that is "incredibly' postulated and arguing like it has any stance on actual reality.

This is a simple question that involves critical thinking, so I am rather tired of people chiming in that so obviously lack those necessary attributes.

Yes, he is at fault. Yet the reprobates that have linger her are somehow trying to make this about him not being so.
 
radcen said:
Totally agree that antifa has their own level of fault. No question. But, the driver's actions are wholly his own, and stand alone.
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Agreed, he is scum. So let him burn on the coals that he so piled with his own hands.
 
Oborosen said:
Yet I still would have answered such a speculative question with as well thought out of an answer as I could give. Instead of just trying to hijack the thread and ramble on about something that is "incredibly' postulated and arguing like it has any stance on actual reality.

This is a simple question that involves critical thinking, so I am rather tired of people chiming in that so obviously lack those necessary attributes.

Yes, he is at fault. Yet the reprobates that have linger her are somehow trying to make this about him not being so.
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There is a lot of meaningless word salad in the post above.


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Hatuey said:
There is a lot of meaningless word salad in the post above.


Sent from Donald's hair using Putin's Blackerry.
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You have my apologies then.
Should I drop my writing below a grade school level, so you have a better chance of understanding?

Though from seeing others past interactions with you, I can tell that you would most likely not be able to answer anyway.
 
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