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Women detail sexual allegations against Trump[W:207]

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Larry Elder is still cranky about the Clintons, 17 years after Bill left office and a year after Hillary lost the election.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2017/11/23/i_got_fired_for_calling_out_liberal_hypocrisy_on_clinton_accusers_135608.html

I dread the day either Clinton passes away. The Trump fans will die of broken hearts.
We will always have C-SPAN online for hate watching Clinton's State of the Union addresses ;)

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come on top, you are telling me you've never heard worse?

I don't think I have.

- Nixon (1972): He had already lost much of his political backing by Watergate because of the tactics he used in Vietnam. After Operation Linebacker II, an eleven day bombing campaign in 1972 that spanned the Christmas week, the Christian base was appalled. They dubbed it the "Christmas bombing," despite the Vietnamese not celebrating Christmas. This was a moral issue and it stung Nixon. Then came Watergate, in which Republicans still standing backed way off. Voters on the Right chose country over Team.

- Jim Bakker (1987): This extremely popular television evangelical was forced by his congregation to atone for his sexual misconduct (rape) and prior personal theft of donations. Conservatives held him accountable and his reputation was shattered. We see here where protecting the moral issue was more important than looking away.

- Jimmy Swaggart (1988): This extremely popular television evangelical was forced by his congregation to make amends for his sexual misconduct and adultery. He apologized on national television behind an absurd and embarrassing amount of tears. This was a moral issue and Conservatives cared more about that image than the evangelical that betrayed them.

- Clinton (1999): Despite the Left wanting this to be absolutely about politics, while feminists defended him, this was also more of the same as before. Conservatives and Christians had just held two right-wing evangelists accountable for their sexual misconduct. It makes perfect sense that Conservatives and Christians were not going to let Clinton, a Democrat, off the hook.

* Now there is Trump, who was recorded celebrating sexual misconduct and adultery, as well as denigrating Vietnam Vets and handicaps. And the Conservative response was to either shrug or laugh? They decided that a "billionaire" who exists because of the Swamp was going to go to Washington to drain the swamp? And they defended themselves by declaring that anything was better than to give into their irrational hate for Hillary Clinton?

* Now there is Roy Moore, a right-wing Christian leader, with a large amount of accusers (ranging from women, cops, and a local population), and the Conservative response is to entertain a defense that even God liked teenagers? The Conservative and Christian base have actively chosen to betray their own values. This is like the Liberal base deciding over a few years that minorities can just go to hell while they applaud the slogans. We are experiencing a very different time in our politics; and Conservatives have been transitioning for years, even before Trump came along and wrapped those changes into non-sensical slogans.
 
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I don't think I have.

- Nixon (1972): He had already lost much of his political backing by Watergate because of the tactics he used in Vietnam. After Operation Linebacker II, an eleven day bombing campaign in 1972 that spanned the Christmas week, the Christian base was appalled. They dubbed it the "Christmas bombing," despite the Vietnamese not celebrating Christmas. This was a moral issue and it stung Nixon. Then came Watergate, in which Republicans still standing backed way off. Voters on the Right chose country over Team.

- Jim Bakker (1987): This extremely popular television evangelical was forced by his congregation to atone for his sexual misconduct (rape) and prior personal theft of donations. Conservatives held him accountable and his reputation was shattered. We see here where protecting the moral issue was more important than looking away.

- Jimmy Swaggart (1988): This extremely popular television evangelical was forced by his congregation to make amends for his sexual misconduct and adultery. He apologized on national television behind an absurd and embarrassing amount of tears. This was a moral issue and Conservatives cared more about that image than the evangelical that betrayed them.

- Clinton (1999): Despite the Left wanting this to be absolutely about politics, while feminists defended him, this was also more of the same as before. Conservatives and Christians had just held two right-wing evangelists accountable for their sexual misconduct. It makes perfect sense that Conservatives and Christians were not going to let Clinton, a Democrat, off the hook.

* Now there is Trump, who was recorded celebrating sexual misconduct and adultery, as well as denigrating Vietnam Vets and handicaps. And the Conservative response was to either shrug or laugh? They decided that a "billionaire" who exists because of the Swamp was going to go to Washington to drain the swamp? And they defended themselves by declaring that anything was better than to give into their irrational hate for Hillary Clinton?

* Now there is Roy Moore, a right-wing Christian leader, with a large amount of accusers (ranging from women, cops, and a local population), and the Conservative response is to entertain a defense that even God liked teenagers? The Conservative and Christian base have actively chosen to betray their own values. This is like the Liberal base deciding over a few years that minorities can just go to hell while they applaud the slogans. We are experiencing a very different time in our politics; and Conservatives have been transitioning for years, even before Trump came along and wrapped those changes into non-sensical slogans.




You are complicating the request. What I was asking you, top, is if you have ever heard people say things like trump did or worse in your presence.
 
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However from afar, it appears "great again" means going back 25 years in history.

It's a ridiculous slogan, because everybody wants to define it their way.

- Twenty-five years ago Reagan hadn't transitioned the national economy towards an obnoxious focus on the rich and powerful.

- Of course, right before that we were wrapping up the Vietnam War, a period that shattered the population's trust in the White House (new Congressional laws in the mid-1970s took foreign policy behaviors out of the sole purview of the President).

- We could go back to the late 1940s and pretend we can freeze time, but we would still have to make a decision about the Soviet Union's refusal to leave Iran and Pakistan, thereby pushing the contest of global ideology in a time when America was interested in "opening the door" to the world's economy.

- We could go back to isolationism, before WWII and becoming the highly inexperienced and unprepared global leader, but that interwar period saw us in socioeconomic Depression.

- Perhaps the Guilded Age was when we were last "great," but that also means brutal factories, the development of government subsidies to big oil and railroads, and the back end of almost wiping out the entire Native American population.

- And of course, before all of this was the Civil War, slavery, and a War of Independence that constitutionally legalized racism upon blacks and Native Americans.

No, there is no looking back for "great." The notion of a Golden Age is always illusive and a matter of selectivity. "Great" is looking forward and continuing to try to become what the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution states. Dismissing the Article I, Section 2, "Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States...excluding Indians not taxed, three fifths of all other Persons," for which future Amendments corrected, the Constitution is a document that defines our destination. Conservatives are traditionalists and like to look backwards with fondness; and Liberals are progressives who always tend to look forward. This is where the two come to ideological blows. I believe that there is such a thing as progressing too quickly for a population. The Middle East is a perfect example. But a determination to look back for a false "greatness" tends to seize progress.
 
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You are complicating the request. What I was asking you, top, is if you have ever heard people say things like trump did or worse in your presence.

Oh.

Maybe. Think of the military culture. I have never been in a situation where another guy was boasting about committing adultery and moving on chicks like a bitch. For one, that is just a weird thing to say and such talk seems too homoerotic to me. It's like watching pornography with other dudes in the room who all have boners and talking about sex. And two, "locker room talk" is normally something single men do who have not transitioned into being the family man with a wife and children. This guy was seventy-years old and running to be the President of the United States.

Besides, the measure on whether or not that was acceptable should not hinge on whether or not somebody has heard worse. Such rationalizations legitimize the behavior at hand. Nobody being Court Martialed gets to be exonerated because others have done worse. It's not like Clinton banged Lewinski on the desk to entertain the Cabinet, right? It's not like we dropped three atomic bombs, right? It's not like all the slaves in America were executed, right? It's a dangerous and irresponsible way of looking at an issue.
 
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Oh.

Maybe. Think of the military culture. I have never been in a situation where another guy was boasting about committing adultery and moving on chicks like a bitch. For one, that is just a weird thing to say and such talk seems too homoerotic to me. It's like watching pornography with other dudes in the room who all have boners and talking about sex. And two, "locker room talk" is normally something single men do who have not transitioned into being the family man with a wife and children. This guy was seventy-years old and running to be the President of the United States.

Besides, the measure on whether or not that was acceptable should not hinge on whether or not somebody has heard worse. Such rationalizations legitimize the behavior at hand. Nobody being Court Martialed gets to be exonerated because others have done worse. It's not like Clinton banged Lewinski on the desk to entertain the Cabinet, right? It's not like we dropped three atomic bombs, right? It's not like all the slaves in America were executed, right? It's a dangerous and irresponsible way of looking at an issue.




My point is, that your virgin ears I am sure have heard much worse. Trumps comments were dumb, and boorish, but nothing admitting to a crime, or even hinting at a crime. He also does have a point, when you are rich, and have even a little notoriety you will be come upon by certain women who will and this is the "key" word here. "let you" do things. let=consensual. that of course is not the narrative the media is trying to sell you.
 
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It's a ridiculous slogan, because everybody wants to define it their way.

- Twenty-five years ago Reagan hadn't transitioned the national economy towards an obnoxious focus on the rich and powerful.

- Of course, right before that we were wrapping up the Vietnam War, a period that shattered the population's trust in the White House (new Congressional laws in the mid-1970s took foreign policy behaviors out of the sole purview of the President).

- We could go back to the late 1940s and pretend we can freeze time, but we would still have to make a decision about the Soviet Union's refusal to leave Iran and Pakistan, thereby pushing the contest of global ideology in a time when America was interested in "opening the door" to the world's economy.

- We could go back to isolationism, before WWII and becoming the highly inexperienced and unprepared global leader, but that interwar period saw us in socioeconomic Depression.

- Perhaps the Guilded Age was when we were last "great," but that also means brutal factories, the development of government subsidies to big oil and railroads, and the back end of almost wiping out the entire Native American population.

- And of course, before all of this was the Civil War, slavery, and a War of Independence that constitutionally legalized racism upon blacks and Native Americans.

No, there is no looking back for "great." The notion of a Golden Age is always illusive and a matter of selectivity. "Great" is looking forward and continuing to try to become what the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution states. Dismissing the Article I, Section 2, "Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States...excluding Indians not taxed, three fifths of all other Persons," for which future Amendments corrected, the Constitution is a document that defines our destination. Conservatives are traditionalists and like to look backwards with fondness; and Liberals are progressives who always tend to look forward. This is where the two come to ideological blows. I believe that there is such a thing as progressing too quickly for a population. The Middle East is a perfect example. But a determination to look back for a false "greatness" tends to seize progress.



Excellent post!

I tend to agree, however I've always noticed a fear among conservatives, and the more conservative the more fear. There is also a large amount of fear mongering, often to a ridiculous degree (several right wingers in here posted "they will rape and kill your women" during the debate over accepting more Syrian refugees. To this day the US right believes refugees represent a threat to the nation and don't have a clue how the International Refugee system works and, like with Trump's ban on Muslims, attempts to prevent something that has never happened.
Today, Canada has a crisis. In this city alone young people are dying at a rate of over 1,000 a month. Fenatyl laced with poison is widely available and it has been declared a "national emergency"
We have and are continuing to use prohibition, locking them up faster than the paper work can keep up. We have expanded "Safe house" - injection and use supervised centers with medical staff, we have issued over 10,000 mini pens...
But what is the leader of the Conservative Party of Canada talking about? Crime.
Canada's crime rate is so low it barely ****ing measures any more, it is not and has not been an issue for at least 20 years, but this weirdo is ranting about 'gangs and gang violence".

The real difference, I suggest, is how you rate "great". For me it's about taking care of one another. Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn said societies will be measured on how they treat prisoners. He was a prisoner at the time. For me, it's about adequately looking after those who have given to their country, seniors, soldiers, when they can no look after themselves..and the collective happiness. You cannot pursue happiness, I am sorry to correct Mr. Jefferson, but if you are in pursuit of anything then you don't have it.
 
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Do you have a link to where he has been tried and convicted of such a thing? So far all I've seen are accusations and accusations can turn out to be lies. Remember the Duke lacrosse team and Tawana Brawley?

How do provide proof of a fondling 40 years ago?
So we have duke and tawana on one side and 20 plus women and a guy who was banned from a mall on the other?
We believe what we want.

How you believe The C grabber says he never met women who were on his show and bragged is beyond me
 
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I tend to agree, however I've always noticed a fear among conservatives, and the more conservative the more fear. There is also a large amount of fear mongering, often to a ridiculous degree (several right wingers in here posted "they will rape and kill your women" during the debate over accepting more Syrian refugees. To this day the US right believes refugees represent a threat to the nation and don't have a clue how the International Refugee system works and, like with Trump's ban on Muslims, attempts to prevent something that has never happened.

This fear is entirely based on a false notion of identity; and a lack of education. Most Conservatives take insult to this bit, but there is a reason the first thing so many of them state when faced with facts is "that's your education talking." The answer to that is...um...yes...it is. We all grow up with a certain personal influence that places us on a path. I am perfect here...

1) Raised by an extremely devout Christian mother and a father who did thirty years in the Marine Corps and voluntary Vietnam Vet (retired in 2000).
2) Both are High School graduates.
3) Both registered Republicans who loved Reagan and hated Clinton for "not serving."

So what path was I on? I should be one of these "very Conservatives." But...

4) I enlist in the Marine Corps in 1992
5) Hated Clinton like everybody else in my culture for his "not serving."
6) But due to a deployment in 1993, I wanted to learn more about what I experienced so I began cracking books and taking college courses.
7) My interest grew after 9/11 and especially after the Iraq invasion.
8) While I was earning my Bachelors and Masters I discovered that I was also opening my mind.

When people get to a point where they see the same issue while acknowledging multiple legitimate arguments, it's very hard to see matters reduced as simply as either "Liberal" or "Conservative." It's almost too difficult to even hold a conversation with people who want things to be defined simply into a Liberal or a Conservative category. I find that I have the most difficulty with the more "Conservative" and this is because their bad ideologies have been proven bad and they have consciously decided that this threatens their imagined identities. And I say imagined because far too many chose to abandon that identity when it came to Trump...and now Moore.


Today, Canada has a crisis. In this city alone young people are dying at a rate of over 1,000 a month. Fenatyl laced with poison is widely available and it has been declared a "national emergency"

Good grief! I had not heard o this and I only get my news from international BBC.
The real difference, I suggest, is how you rate "great".

Boom! Do you see it? Proper grammar in the U.S. is to place the period inside the quotation. However, proper grammar in Britain and Canada is to place it inside. It's the sure tell, before looking him/her up, about an author's background in scholarly work. Anyway...

Yep. Conservatives, in every culture, tend to imagine a "Golden Age" that avoids all the negative of that age. From that they define an idea of "great." I mean, look at America's "Greatest" Generation. Does it matter that this generation also believed in great segregation while being the only generation of any country to drop two atomic bombs on civilian populations? Nope. Obviously, educated scholars are guilty of the same thing sometimes. Islam's Golden Age is a perfect example. Many scholars (me included) pick apart the positive parts that saved great Greek and Roman works and Islam's liberal progression, from the more ...messy other realities of the age.

You cannot pursue happiness, I am sorry to correct Mr. Jefferson, but if you are in pursuit of anything then you don't have it.

I correct famous people all time (mostly because I am arrogant).

But the "pursuit of happiness" was based on the traditionally historical notion that governments and the aristocracy stood fixed as barriers. Jefferson meant that Americans have the right to pursue happiness and that no American government can ever be a barrier. Unfortunately, we are currently in an age where too much of our population votes against its own socioeconomic interests...because they are "uneducated."
 
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This fear is entirely based on a false notion of identity; and a lack of education. Most Conservatives take insult to this bit, but there is a reason the first thing so many of them state when faced with facts is "that's your education talking." The answer to that is...um...yes...it is. We all grow up with a certain personal influence that places us on a path. I am perfect here...

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But the "pursuit of happiness" was based on the traditionally historical notion that governments and the aristocracy stood fixed as barriers. Jefferson meant that Americans have the right to pursue happiness and that no American government can ever be a barrier. Unfortunately, we are currently in an age where too much of our population votes against its own socioeconomic interests...because they are "uneducated."



Wow is all I can say at the outset, you are a very gifted writer; that from someone who earned a damned good living off the English language so accept it for what its worth.

On that I will begin with the most trivial of your post first. From journalism training where quotation marks and period placement can be the difference between freedom and jail or at least a nasty law suit: The period inside the quotes indicate it was the end of that person's sentence, allowing for, as in journalism a continuation of the sentence. Ergo: He said "anything goes anymore. There are no rules, no nothing." and went on to extrapolate....dah, dah.
The period outside is an indication the entire sentence dies there. Journalese but I was taught by exacting German editors at the Kitchener-Waterloo Record, a newspaper of little distinction other than firing me, who went on to 'star' in radio and television.

How I got there was a result of Richard Nixon's victory in '68, being a dual citizen I found it convenient to return to the land of my birth. Hate me now but I worked volunteer for a draft dodger support group. I was raised by a master tool and die maker and strong UAW member but rejected his politics before I was 18. I served detention in high school for writing an essay on how the Vietnam War was killing America because it was stifling free speech.

However I came to see the problem as exactly what you have so eloquently addressed here, the black and white mindset. No allowance for degrees of anything, you are either a "****ing hippie" or a "warmonger". However it was easy to get laid.

I had my door opened so to speak one week end in Ann Arbor watching but not part of an anti war demonstration. I had long hair, blue jeans and was riding a Triumph 650 Bonneville so naturally I had to be searched and have my ID run by some men with very bad attitudes and very big guns on their belts. I recall they seemed really pissed when it came back clean.

But across the way there were "hippies" chanting ugly **** that had nothing to do with politics or war anymore, it was invented class warfare disguised as freedom marches and all the kids would go home to their white families and color tv's and feel like they were "changing the world". I saw it as driving the wedge deeper, and angrier and an ugly energy in the air that foretold of things being destroyed.

In the middle were these middle aged men with cameras and writing pads, looking confused because they were. None of this fit their idea of "home" when they were chasing Nazi's across Europe. But what I also saw was hope. Clearly no one wast listening on this battlefield and no one would. I knew what I had to do.

Along the way I got an education, but not formal (I have a learning disability and learn in my own way) and read a brief historical classic called "The Prince" by a guy named Machiavelli and shortly after that a book called Fahrenheit 451. Then I re-read 1984 and soon after that I found myself covering national politics at age 21 because a guy died and they needed someone with a pulse.

That's when I learned the only reality in politics is the one you make, a budget shortfall can be either a "disaster our children will have to pay for" or "an investment in our country's future" depending on which side your bread is buttered. And then I learned that in a democracy the only thing between freedom and tyranny and freedom is free and independent free press.

And that is where America is failing. I too get my news [especially about the US] from European and Canadian sources who have no dog in the hunt. And so it is amusing that you would note you had not heard of our "crisis" or the ****ed up way we've responded. I have found that in the US there is no market for anything outside of a narrow bandwidth which people already believe. There is no media outlet that cannot be pre-judged as, as you noted, either 'librul" or "righwing"
 
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Wow is all I can say at the outset, you are a very gifted writer; that from someone who earned a damned good living off the English language so accept it for what its worth.

It's worth much. As many of my former history professors stated, the only better writer than a historian is an English major.
That's when I learned the only reality in politics is the one you make, a budget shortfall can be either a "disaster our children will have to pay for" or "an investment in our country's future" depending on which side your bread is buttered. And then I learned that in a democracy the only thing between freedom and tyranny and freedom is free and independent free press.

And that is where America is failing. I too get my news [especially about the US] from European and Canadian sources who have no dog in the hunt.

I believe it is a temporary fail. Nixon resigned because he had lost political backing. That means that Republicans chose country over Team not too long ago.

Trump's silly presidency is a slap in the face to Conservatives who have already begun, though refusing to acknowledge publicly, how low the GOP and Fox News have dragged them. And they still tried to make Roy Moore successful? There is no way they don't personally feel some shame.
 
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So lets review the three women in question.


"Holvey said when she competed in Trump’s Miss USA pageant in 2006, Trump came backstage unexpectedly when she and other contestants were wearing nothing but robes and he personally inspected the contestants."


so the owner of the pagent came in to inspect the contestants and they were all robed and in a paegent where the name of the game is ogling, she felt uncomfortable that she thought she was being ogled. This is harrasment?


Crooks claims she was a receptionist at trump tower, and in a very busy public place, trump kissed her (elevator banks). Does this sound plausable? Did she pull away and say no? was anyone there? Did anyone miss her from her desk?


Leeds story is full of holes, such as, finishing a meal 45 mins into a flight, and claiming he lifted the armrest on a plane where the armrests are fixed. a witness said it didn't happen.



So the three best megan could get have stories that are full of holes and make little sense.

Also the only person to actually levy a charge and go to court has had it thrown out of court 2 times and dropped it herself the third time.
 
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It's worth much. As many of my former history professors stated, the only better writer than a historian is an English major.


I believe it is a temporary fail. Nixon resigned because he had lost political backing. That means that Republicans chose country over Team not too long ago.

Trump's silly presidency is a slap in the face to Conservatives who have already begun, though refusing to acknowledge publicly, how low the GOP and Fox News have dragged them. And they still tried to make Roy Moore successful? There is no way they don't personally feel some shame.

Crosswords. The best writers I have ever known have all been crossword fanatics....

The art of writing is telling a story in a compelling way, and the only way one can do that is if they know the exact meaning(s) of the words.

Re the bold. That's what has been bothering me, the lack of a sense of horror. Like having a world leader who picks fights with mothers of fallen soldiers is just another day at the office. Here, where most people barely pay much attention to Canadian news, are ashamed. The current leader of the Conservative Party of Canada, which can meet in a Volkswagen, had to distance himself in a speech simply because he was running when Trump was bragging about grabbing ******s.

I liked the quote, forget who it was, who said "decency won tonight."

That renews some of my faith in America. I rag on her a lot but the truth is I have a deep respect for Americans, not now, but there was a day when if there was a disaster anywhere in the world the first boots on the ground would be American. Our firefighters work shoulder to shoulder (there's a hundred or more Canadians in California now) and we have shared the longest undefended border in the world and never had a conflict (once the British left anyway).

To watch this guy get away with the lies, the absence of decency and **** over other people and whole countries because of his unrelenting need for praise is simply too much. I hope, for the whole country's sake, this is a turning point and that "decency" that won tonight can reign on from here on...
 
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Where did I say he did? Reading is fundamental, you should try it some time.

You intimate it here due:
do they call Bill Clinton a molester or "sexual assaulter" due to the numerous accusations against him?

Writing is fundamental too ya'know; and quit stealing my lines.
 
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You intimate it here due:

Writing is fundamental too ya'know; and quit stealing my lines.
Poor, poor jet. I'm convinced that you are truly a glutton for punishment. You simply have to be to be to resurrect a 2 week old dead thread in a feeble attempt (of which all of your attempts are feeble to be perfectly honest) to play "gotcha" and show how ignorant you are on every subject you inject yourself into.

Try reading the posts that led up to mine. Anyone with an IQ higher than say 56-58 can clearly see that I didn't "intimate" or imply for that matter that anyone had accused Clinton of anything when they were 14 years old. As for the whole "reading is fundamental" line, I've been saying that long before you joined here and as someone who struggles with reading, writing and making a coherent thought as much as you do, I can assure you that you have nothing that I want, to steal or otherwise.

I'll give you some obviously much needed advice, the next time you want to necro a dead thread to take a pathetic shot at me, don't. As much as I enjoy kicking the snot out of you every time we "debate", I prefer a much bigger challenge than you're capable of being able to bring.
 
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Poor, poor jet. I'm convinced that you are truly a glutton for punishment. You simply have to be to be to resurrect a 2 week old dead thread in a feeble attempt (of which all of your attempts are feeble to be perfectly honest) to play "gotcha" and show how ignorant you are on every subject you inject yourself into.

Try reading the posts that led up to mine. Anyone with an IQ higher than say 56-58 can clearly see that I didn't "intimate" or imply for that matter that anyone had accused Clinton of anything when they were 14 years old. As for the whole "reading is fundamental" line, I've been saying that long before you joined here and as someone who struggles with reading, writing and making a coherent thought as much as you do, I can assure you that you have nothing that I want, to steal or otherwise.

I'll give you some obviously much needed advice, the next time you want to necro a dead thread to take a pathetic shot at me, don't. As much as I enjoy kicking the snot out of you every time we "debate", I prefer a much bigger challenge than you're capable of being able to bring.

I did read it and you intimating it by attaching "molester" to Clinton. If you're not going to suggest it - don't write it.

And 2 weeks? You're wrong now too, so what's your point? The thread is not dead at all.
 
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I did read it and you intimating it by attaching "molester" to Clinton. If you're not going to suggest it - don't write it.

And 2 weeks? You're wrong now too, so what's your point? The thread is not dead at all.
Last post before yours this evening was December 13th. Today is December 30th. That's 17 days which by my count is just a tad more than 2 weeks. :roll:
 
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Last post before yours this evening was December 13th. Today is December 30th. That's 17 days which by my count is just a tad more than 2 weeks. :roll:

So what? Can't I comment on a thread that is still open?

I'm not allowed to challenge - you?

jeeze dude
 
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So what? Can't I comment on a thread that is still open?

I'm not allowed to challenge - you?

jeeze dude
Is this your way of conceding that you were wrong, yet again?
 
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