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Roy Moore accuser admits she wrote part of yearbook inscription attributed to Alabama Senate candida

Mason66 said:
I realize that. They think it has some sway on how rational people think.

Maybe they have convinced themselves that anybody under the arbitrary age of 18 is a child.
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Mason66 said:
Why don't you try answering what was posted and not what you think was posted.

In case you didn't notice, I never mentioned a 14 year old.
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Yes you did, when you cited France possibly lowering their legal age to 14. It's quite clear what you posted: apologism for child molestation and statutory rape.

Your claim that 18 is arbitrary displays a deep lack of emotional and other maturity, as well as a lack of development beyond adolescence.

In total, your remarks are disgusting and predatory in nature.

It makes one wonder if people in your life know how you feel about sex with children.
 
americanwoman said:
Bull****.

It was 16 then and 16 now. You used a computer to type out that response, now use it to educate yourself.
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But didn't the girl ASK him to sign her yearbook? Did he rape her yearbook because the yearbook wasn't yet 16 years old?

Does she have a semen stained dress like Monica or was it just her adolescent sexual fantasies?
 
ecofarm said:
Yes you did, when you cited France possibly lowering their legal age to 14. It's quite clear what you posted: apologism for child molestation and statutory rape.

Your claim that 18 is arbitrary displays a deep lack of emotional and other maturity, as well as a lack of development beyond adolescence.

In total, your remarks are disgusting and predatory in nature.

It makes one wonder if people in your life know how you feel about sex with children.
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It's hard not to get creeped out after reading that poster's submissions.

Side note: Moore’s own legal decisions have contained language in which he refers to 17 year olds as children.
 
ecofarm said:
Yes you did, when you cited France possibly lowering their legal age to 14. It's quite clear what you posted: apologism for child molestation and statutory rape.

Your claim that 18 is arbitrary displays a deep lack of emotional and other maturity, as well as a lack of development beyond adolescence.

In total, your remarks are disgusting and predatory in nature.

It makes one wonder if people in your life know how you feel about sex with children.
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I made no reference to France in any way.

I think the age of 18 was chosen in order to give the person a chance to finish high school before they have to deal with adult situations.

We know that almost no teens wait that long.

Also are you of the opinion that a person that is 17 years and 364 days old thinks any different than a person that is 18 years and 0 days old? What sort of magic happens in that one day?
 
Mason66 said:
Also are you of the opinion that a person that is 17 years and 364 days old thinks any different than a person that is 18 years and 0 days old? What sort of magic happens in that one day?
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I can't believe anyone so completely lacks a grasp of consent. A pair of 16 year olds can have sex legally, and 14s, and 15 with 17, and 16 with 18. All states have a 2 year rule or something similar. The point of an age of consent is not to keep people under that age from having sex, after all it's not illegal with a similar age partner. The point of an age of consent is to prevent predators from preying on children. That you cannot understand this is horribly creepy and pathetic.

What causes an adult to not be able to grasp that? What impetus, what reason, could one possibly have to completely misconstrue the purpose of an age of consent? Why is he apologizing for child molesters?
 
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holbritter said:
I find it weird that she would write down his name and date, as her attorney said, so she would remember who he was. Really? I thought he molested her? Or was that a different one?
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He molested her after (as in days after) he signed her yearbook. If it was written in there close after, why would she not do that when she wouldn't know beforehand that he would molest her.
 
Taylor said:
The whole thing is odd to me. Clearly there must be more to the story because people just don't take their (months old?) yearbooks to work at Christmastime in the hopes of getting signatures from customers.
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She had just received it from the school (and she by then was attending another school). She said she brought it to show those she worked with at her job. Makes sense to me. I likely brought in my yearbook to my job too. Not to have signed, but rather for my coworkers and the residents to see pics of me and my school (I worked in a nursing home). If they signed it though, I probably wouldn't have complained.
 
holbritter said:
Did you not read correctly? She wrote DA, not ADA. When did he become DA??
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Because a 17 year old waitress, still in high school would absolutely know the difference, despite him being the first ADA in the entire county? Not likely.
 
Objective Voice said:
We don't know if her story is a lie. The only other witness to the abuse that we know of was Roy Moore himself.

Now, I'm with most folks when it comes down to asking why didn't this woman (or any of the others who were allegedly "attacked") report the abuse? I can understand none of the others coming forward (less Mrs. Corfman), but Mrs. Nelson...you'd expect she would have said something to somebody immediately afterwards, i.e., her coworkers at the time. However, according to her she was too afraid to come forward. Okay, very well. Then why speak of it now?

In any case, just as Roy Moore is using the tactic of "if one part of a person's testimony (or evidence) can be discredited, all of it must be a lie" I think one could use that same approach when questioning his truthfulness.

In the Sean Hannity intervier (11/10/2017), Roy Moore said if he dated any of these women as teenagers, he only did so with their mother's permission. He even acknowledged initially that he knew at least two of the women: Gloria Thacker Deason and Debbie Wesson Gibson. They aren't the two women in question concerning Roy Moore's signature, but if their personal evidence of having met Roy Moore is validated even slightly wouldn't it then stand to reason that Roy Moore is lying about never having met these two women as young girls? There's a reason he acknowledges knowing Deason and Gibson and not Leigh Corfman, Beverly Nelson or Wendy Miller. They were 16 years old or younger at the time he met them and allegedly propositioned them, whereas, the other two were 18 and older.

Look at the signatures and compare each not only to each other but also other court documents as recent as 7/24/2017.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DO58_wyX4AAZOMw.jpg

https://img.washingtonpost.com/rf/i...ages/Moore-04.JPG?uuid=dlhSZtkfEeeiQQhIMVZC0A

There are distinct characteristics to Roy Moore's signature that can't be easily duplicated. IMO, it is Roy Moore's signature. He met these women at least once in his lifetime. While I can't say how well he knew them, if the one young girl went as far as to write about him in her personal diary, he clearly had an influence on her. You don't get that from a 1-time event, not unless it was something in passing, i.e., a concert where you got to meet the band. It's possible there was some idol worshiping going on, but to say he never met them is false.
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She did say she told her sister within weeks of it happening, her husband before they married, and her mother a few years ago.
 
jmotivator said:
LOL. Not what I am saying at all. In a case where the truth of an accusation is determined by the veracity of the accuser you are left in a hole when the accuser admits to embellishing evidence.

Also, whether Moore dated or didn't date girls who were above the age of consent is really nobody's concern. Whether he had sexual conduct with a 14 year old, or raped them or sexually abused them is the whole point. You could prove Roy Moore knew all of them and it doesn't prove a claim of sexual assault.

LOL. Photos of signatures?! He even calls one girl pretty in those messages! Get the noose. :roll:
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It is of concern to others, whether you think it is or isn't. That is part of life. It is like claiming that cheating on someone's spouse is of no concern to others when it comes to whether to vote for them. That isn't illegal either but is a pretty big factor of American politics. Others get to decide what they may find "sketchy" about a candidate, even if you disagree. Most people find a 30 year old ADA trolling the malls for teenage girls to date to be sketchy.
 
Deuce said:
They literally thought this was an example of how honorable Moore is. This isn't some random allegation that popped last minute. They chose this story to tell.

SEE THIS ONE TIME HE DIDNT PAY MONEY TO **** A TWELVE YEAR OLD WHAT A GREAT MAN.

They also went with "Moore and his wife know Jewish people" as evidenced against anti semitism.
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Correction: They went with the "Moore pays a Jew to do a job" as evidence against anti-semitism.

It's kind of like, how you can't be racist if you own a basketball team full of black guys.
 
Hatuey said:
Correction: They went with the "Moore pays a Jew to do a job" as evidence against anti-semitism.

It's kind of like, how you can't be racist if you own a basketball team full of black guys.
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Willing to pay a Jew, in a rather demonized profession for a rather shady guy. It might as well have been, "hey, I pay a Jew to lie for me". And she thought it was a slam dunk, the look on her face.

Couldn't she find a doctor or accountant? She knows there's a scandal, right?
 
ecofarm said:
Willing to pay a Jew, in a rather demonized profession for a rather shady guy. It might as well have been, "hey, I pay a Jew to lie for me". And she thought it was a slam dunk, the look on her face.

Couldn't she find a doctor or accountant? She knows there's a scandal, right?
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The funniest part is that she also mentioned a rabbi who they 'fellowship' with. I'll admit that I've only spoken to one rabbi in my life. I have spoken to tons of evangelical Christians. None of them would use the term 'fellowship' to describe their relationship with people of other faiths. Certainly not the rabbi. It's a term reserved for relationships between Christians.

Way more interesting is that someone took the time to look up every rabbi in Alabama and not ONE came forward to talk about how they 'fellowship' (I am ashamed that I am using a noun as a verb too) with the Moores. The article is in tweet form, but it is great:

https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/na...at-happened/Z1JFeu3M5JxPfarPhek0sM/story.html

This has 'my black friend justifying my racism' written all over it.
 
Hatuey said:
The funniest part is that she also mentioned a rabbi who they 'fellowship' with. I'll admit that I've only spoken to one rabbi in my life. I have spoken to tons of evangelical Christians. None of them would use the term 'fellowship' to describe their relationship with each other. It's a term reserved for relationships between Christians. Not between Christians and people of other faiths. Way more interesting is that someone took the time to look up every rabbi in Alabama and not ONE came forward to talk about how they 'fellowship' (I am ashamed that I am using a noun as a verb too) with the Moores.

This has 'my imaginary black friend' written all over it.
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"My husband once bought a marijuana cigarette from a black fella, to see what it smelled like, no discriminating there!"
 
Hatuey said:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_in_film
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_in_film
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_in_film

That's the schedule for Hollywood for the next 3 years... are you sure 'Liberal Hollywood' is collapsing?
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You took me too literally. I didn't mean Hollywood as a whole. I meant many individuals in Hollywood are biting the dust and we have only hit the top of the iceberg. The casting couch wasn't just here and there and people are going back decades where it was far worse than it is now. Of course Hollywood as a whole will survive. But, I find a sense of pleasure that many of these liberal Hollywood partisans are being taken down by their very own liberal values.
 
Moderate Right said:
I just explained it all to you.
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Actually, you tried to weasel away from your usual bull**** claims, and reorganize your statements to mean that a baker's dozen Hollywood are being accused of something. That somehow could be interpreted to mean that 'Liberal Hollywood' was coming down. Reality however is very different. 100s of movies scheduled to come out for the next couple of years, thousands of actors at work, millions of extras being hired as we speak, the latest Star Wars scheduled to make in the billion range, Netflix pumping out more and more movies with A-list celebrities. Reality is a bitch for those who every 10-15 years claim that any part of the mainstream media is coming down.
 
Hatuey said:
Actually, you tried to weasel away from your usual bull**** claims, and reorganize your statements to mean that a baker's dozen Hollywood are being accused of something. That somehow could be interpreted to mean that 'Liberal Hollywood' was coming down. Reality however is very different. 100s of movies scheduled to come out for the next couple of years, thousands of actors at work, millions of extras being hired as we speak, the latest Star Wars scheduled to make in the billion range, Netflix pumping out more and more movies with A-list celebrities. Reality is a bitch for those who every 10-15 years claim that any part of the mainstream media is coming down.
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I just expanded on what I said originally because you took me too literally. You dishonestly accuse me of trying to change my story. That's your prerogative. I never once said that the mainstream media is coming down.
 
Moderate Right said:
I just expanded on what I said originally because you took me too literally.
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I took 'Liberal Hollywood is collapsing' as a statement that Liberal Hollywood was collapsing. If you didn't mean to say Liberal Hollywood was collapsing, maybe you should have chosen your words more carefully instead of making an absurd claim and then trying to walk it back to mean something else?
 
Hatuey said:
I took 'Liberal Hollywood is collapsing' as a statement that Liberal Hollywood was collapsing. If you didn't mean to say Liberal Hollywood was collapsing, maybe you should have chosen your words more carefully instead of making an absurd claim and then trying to walk it back to mean something else?
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I already elaborated on that phrase. Please pay attention.
 
roguenuke said:
It is of concern to others, whether you think it is or isn't. That is part of life. It is like claiming that cheating on someone's spouse is of no concern to others when it comes to whether to vote for them. That isn't illegal either but is a pretty big factor of American politics. Others get to decide what they may find "sketchy" about a candidate, even if you disagree. Most people find a 30 year old ADA trolling the malls for teenage girls to date to be sketchy.
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The point being that any such argument is simply a begging the question logical fallacy. If you enjoy a political climate where people's careers are ended on accusation then cool. It will end up biting you in the ass eventually, though.
 
Hatuey said:
I took 'Liberal Hollywood is collapsing' as a statement that Liberal Hollywood was collapsing. If you didn't mean to say Liberal Hollywood was collapsing, maybe you should have chosen your words more carefully instead of making an absurd claim and then trying to walk it back to mean something else?
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