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3 reported dead, 15 injured amid gunfire at New Mexico high school

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...re-top-stories_shooting-1230pm:homepage/story

Three people were killed and 15 others were injured when gunfire erupted early Thursday at a New Mexico high school, according to media reports.

KOB-TV reported that the alleged shooter is also dead, but said it was unclear whether the shooter was included in the reported fatalities.

The shooting happened at Aztec High, a school with about 1,000 students near the Colorado border.
Another shooting at a school.
Getting to be a regular occurrence. Sad
 
Lord how awful for those parents. And teachers.

I wonder if it was a student or someone from the outside?
 
Lord how awful for those parents. And teachers.

I wonder if it was a student or someone from the outside?

Article says two students dead, and they believe they got the shooter, so seems likely a student.

Hard to imagine that the police were able to intercept them before more damage was done, so it all adds up to a murder/suicide scenario, in my mind.

Unrequited love or a bullying situation loom as motives, but that's all speculation.

Edit: Weird that the initial reporting had the body count higher. Usually it goes the other direction, but over-claiming 15 injuries when there weren't any? Did they lie to get national exposure?
 
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Article says two students dead, and they believe they got the shooter, so seems likely a student.

Hard to imagine that the police were able to intercept them before more damage was done, so it all adds up to a murder/suicide scenario, in my mind.

Unrequited love or a bullying situation loom as motives, but that's all speculation.

Edit: Weird that the initial reporting had the body count higher. Usually it goes the other direction, but over-claiming 15 injuries when there weren't any? Did they lie to get national exposure?

Conflicting information is always a mess. That in all probability is what happened.
 
Well, it was time. It's been a month or so since the last mass shooting.

Time for the Democrats to call for an assault weapon ban, the Republicans to cite the Second Amendment, and no one to even suggest practical way to actually stop mass shootings from being a regular occurrence.

Nothing is going to change.
 
Well, it was time. It's been a month or so since the last mass shooting.

Time for the Democrats to call for an assault weapon ban, the Republicans to cite the Second Amendment, and no one to even suggest practical way to actually stop mass shootings from being a regular occurrence.


well do you have a solution? do we even know what weapon was used? we do know that shooting another student is already extremely illegal so is bringing a gun to school or even possessing a firearm in a public place by an unsupervised minor. and if you possess a firearm for the purpose of an illegal activity, your possession is now a felony as well
 
Nothing is going to change.

more mental health access could change things

what would you like see changing (we all want to see less deaths and illegal shootings )
 
well do you have a solution? do we even know what weapon was used? we do know that shooting another student is already extremely illegal so is bringing a gun to school or even possessing a firearm in a public place by an unsupervised minor. and if you possess a firearm for the purpose of an illegal activity, your possession is now a felony as well

We need to look to other modern nations that don't have this problem, then ask ourselves why, what's the difference. It's like when I'm fishing, and someone else is catching and I'm not. I don't maintain that my methods are superior, I talk to them and see what they're doing that is different from what I'm doing.
 
We need to look to other modern nations that don't have this problem, then ask ourselves why, what's the difference. It's like when I'm fishing, and someone else is catching and I'm not. I don't maintain that my methods are superior, I talk to them and see what they're doing that is different from what I'm doing.

most of those nations have very few citizens able to own firearms and certainly not more than 300 million guns in circulation. there are other major differences. mainly what we get from anti gun advocates are claims that we have to reduce our firearms supply to the levels other countries have which of course, is a worthless suggestion
 
It'll be interesting to see if it's gang-related. New Mexico has a HUGE problem with gangs.
 
more mental health access could change things

Well, according to right-libertarians, that should be handled by the free market. Why isn't the all-powerful free market handling it?
 
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This must be awful for the families of the victims. My heart goes out to them.
 
It'll be interesting to see if it's gang-related. New Mexico has a HUGE problem with gangs.

No. It's the four corners area. Gangs are Albuquerque. A long ways away. This is conservative/fairly rural fossil fuel drilling area of New Mexico. Near the bustling metropolis of Farmington, NM with a booming population of around 45,000.
 
more mental health access could change things

what would you like see changing (we all want to see less deaths and illegal shootings )

MI coverage- will not happen as Repubs are not willing to do that

A progressive tax rate. Not what was passed in the Senate.
Poverty = crime rates=poor health=lower education- bad life choice.
Until poverty rates are substantially lowered, ghettos in major cites are cleaned up, till jobs are available, safe neighborhoods, education, good education are available, add in all of the above, and No I am not a socialist.
So as I mentioned, nothing will change.

interesting article on tax credits
https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2017/10/eitc-for-all/542898/
 
Nothing is going to change.

Bad people do bad things. That's never going away. Taking away one tool with which they do bad things won't stop them from doing bad things; they'll simply find a new tool.
 
MI coverage- will not happen as Repubs are not willing to do that

A progressive tax rate. Not what was passed in the Senate.
Poverty = crime rates=poor health=lower education- bad life choice.
Until poverty rates are substantially lowered, ghettos in major cites are cleaned up, till jobs are available, safe neighborhoods, education, good education are available, add in all of the above, and No I am not a socialist.
So as I mentioned, nothing will change.

interesting article on tax credits
https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2017/10/eitc-for-all/542898/

Higher taxes will stop gun crimes? :lamo
 
MI coverage- will not happen as Repubs are not willing to do that

A progressive tax rate. Not what was passed in the Senate.
Poverty = crime rates=poor health=lower education- bad life choice.
Until poverty rates are substantially lowered, ghettos in major cites are cleaned up, till jobs are available, safe neighborhoods, education, good education are available, add in all of the above, and No I am not a socialist.
So as I mentioned, nothing will change.

interesting article on tax credits
https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2017/10/eitc-for-all/542898/

how many of the SCHOOL shootings come from impoverished youth? Klebold and Harris, IIRC, were from upper middle class families living in expensive homes. while most shootings of youths by other youths are drug gang related, these school active shooting cases-be they murder suicide or just murder, are not coming from poor kids. Adam Lanza and the VT shooter Choi were not impoverished youths either. In fact I don't recall any student instigated mass killings at schools that were perpetrated by inner city impoverished students.
 
How terribly sad. As a mother of high schoolers, this kind of story is my absolute worst nightmare. My heart goes out to the victims and their loved ones.
 
Nothing is going to change.


Start making people responsible for their crimes. You have people getting arrested multiple times
then while out of jail they commit more violence. Put them in jail and leave then there.
 
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