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"First responder to Pulse nightclub massacre could face pension cut"

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First responder to Pulse nightclub massacre could face pension cut | Fox News

"A police officer who responded to last year's Pulse Nightclub massacre in Florida is being dismissed -- just six months before being eligible to receive pension benefits.
Cpl. Omar Delgado of the Eatonville Police Department was told Monday that his last day would be Dec. 31.
Six more months would have allowed the 45-year-old officer to collect 64 percent of his salary, plus benefits, for life. Instead, he will now receive only 42 percent of his salary starting at age 55, the Orlando Sentinel reported. **
The officer claims the department made the decision after a doctor found him unfit to return to full duty because of post-traumatic stress disorder."

Personally I think this stinks, thank god we don't treat our young warriors like this.
 
First responder to Pulse nightclub massacre could face pension cut | Fox News

"A police officer who responded to last year's Pulse Nightclub massacre in Florida is being dismissed -- just six months before being eligible to receive pension benefits.
Cpl. Omar Delgado of the Eatonville Police Department was told Monday that his last day would be Dec. 31.
Six more months would have allowed the 45-year-old officer to collect 64 percent of his salary, plus benefits, for life. Instead, he will now receive only 42 percent of his salary starting at age 55, the Orlando Sentinel reported. **
The officer claims the department made the decision after a doctor found him unfit to return to full duty because of post-traumatic stress disorder.
Personally I think this stinks, thank god we don't treat our young warriors like this.

I'm kinda indifferent to his plight. On one hand it sucks that he would have gotten lavish retirement benefits if he could hold on for 6 more months. On the other hand, he's still getting a hefty pension that most people could only dream of after only 10 years on the job.
 
I'm kinda indifferent to his plight. On one hand it sucks that he would have gotten lavish retirement benefits if he could hold on for 6 more months. On the other hand, he's still getting a hefty pension that most people could only dream of after only 10 years on the job.

I disagree being a cop in a big city like Orlando is dangerous enough by itself let alone going into a blood bath like the Pulse was, the salary range is $36K to $38K is about average for the area. But that aside, the guy did his job and paid a terrible price PTSD is a serious problem that has resulted in a lot of suicides. But then I am sensitive to the needs of first responders.
 
A bit of clickbait spin there. He isn’t having his pension cut at all, he is set to receive the standard pension for his length of service. He’s been unlucky that is just before the next step up in pension but if they have that kind of structure with few, large steps, I’m sure lots of people have just missed out in similar ways. If he hadn’t been involved in such a high-profile incident recently, none of us would know or care about his plight.

If he was pushed out early to keep the pension cost down that would be wrong but equally, if he was allowed to stay on the books for another six months just so he got the larger pension, that would be wrong too. If anything, it seems like the underlying pension system is at fault here.
 
First responder to Pulse nightclub massacre could face pension cut | Fox News

"A police officer who responded to last year's Pulse Nightclub massacre in Florida is being dismissed -- just six months before being eligible to receive pension benefits.
Cpl. Omar Delgado of the Eatonville Police Department was told Monday that his last day would be Dec. 31.
Six more months would have allowed the 45-year-old officer to collect 64 percent of his salary, plus benefits, for life. Instead, he will now receive only 42 percent of his salary starting at age 55, the Orlando Sentinel reported. **
The officer claims the department made the decision after a doctor found him unfit to return to full duty because of post-traumatic stress disorder."

Personally I think this stinks, thank god we don't treat our young warriors like this.

So what? Looks similar to other Trump business tactics to screw employees and contractors to save a buck.
 
First responder to Pulse nightclub massacre could face pension cut | Fox News

"A police officer who responded to last year's Pulse Nightclub massacre in Florida is being dismissed -- just six months before being eligible to receive pension benefits.
Cpl. Omar Delgado of the Eatonville Police Department was told Monday that his last day would be Dec. 31.
Six more months would have allowed the 45-year-old officer to collect 64 percent of his salary, plus benefits, for life. Instead, he will now receive only 42 percent of his salary starting at age 55, the Orlando Sentinel reported. **
The officer claims the department made the decision after a doctor found him unfit to return to full duty because of post-traumatic stress disorder."

Personally I think this stinks, thank god we don't treat our young warriors like this.

Has he applied for Workmen's Comp? A disability? Anything else?
 
"The department did not confirm Delgado’s claim but Deputy Chief Joseph Jenkins said the department reached an agreement with Delgado to end his employment, the Sentinel's report said."


So they lied to him or it's not the full story?

Anyway, once the tax bill is finalized and passed, the GOP will be seeking to slash the safety net to make up for the deficit-expansion that the tax cuts will cause. I sure hope those on the right upset about how "our warriors" are treated will be just as upset about how our poor and vulnerable are treated. I'd like to see both groups taken care of. Others would prefer to give tax cuts to wealthy individuals and entities.

:shrug:
 
So what? Looks similar to other Trump business tactics to screw employees and contractors to save a buck.

Five posts before the TDS came along. That took longer than expected.
 
Five posts before the TDS came along. That took longer than expected.

Eight before trolling, which has to be some kind of DP record.
 
I'm kinda indifferent to his plight. On one hand it sucks that he would have gotten lavish retirement benefits if he could hold on for 6 more months. On the other hand, he's still getting a hefty pension that most people could only dream of after only 10 years on the job.

And that would be the kicker. The man didn't flip burgers or clerk at Walmart as a career. His "lavish" retirement benefits are reward for doing what "most people" don't do.
 
So what? Looks similar to other Trump business tactics to screw employees and contractors to save a buck.

What does Trump have to do with this? This is a local administrative issue.
 
And that would be the kicker. The man didn't flip burgers or clerk at Walmart as a career. His "lavish" retirement benefits are reward for doing what "most people" don't do.

Lumberjacks have a much more dangerous job than police officers. So do firefighters, food delivery drivers, and fishermen. Most people "don't do" those jobs either.
 
First responder to Pulse nightclub massacre could face pension cut | Fox News

"A police officer who responded to last year's Pulse Nightclub massacre in Florida is being dismissed -- just six months before being eligible to receive pension benefits.
Cpl. Omar Delgado of the Eatonville Police Department was told Monday that his last day would be Dec. 31.
Six more months would have allowed the 45-year-old officer to collect 64 percent of his salary, plus benefits, for life. Instead, he will now receive only 42 percent of his salary starting at age 55, the Orlando Sentinel reported. **
The officer claims the department made the decision after a doctor found him unfit to return to full duty because of post-traumatic stress disorder."

Personally I think this stinks, thank god we don't treat our young warriors like this.

Getting any pension after less than ten years of working is still a very good deal.
 
A bit of clickbait spin there. He isn’t having his pension cut at all, he is set to receive the standard pension for his length of service. He’s been unlucky that is just before the next step up in pension but if they have that kind of structure with few, large steps, I’m sure lots of people have just missed out in similar ways. If he hadn’t been involved in such a high-profile incident recently, none of us would know or care about his plight.

If he was pushed out early to keep the pension cost down that would be wrong but equally, if he was allowed to stay on the books for another six months just so he got the larger pension, that would be wrong too. If anything, it seems like the underlying pension system is at fault here.

I would tend to agree with you under other circumstances but, it seems to me that this falls under the Americans with disabilities act. I tend to side with first responders because like GI's they often put their lives on the line doing their jobs. 911 is a perfect example of first responders doing their jobs. Granted this is different but it was still traumatic and how many other responders are having problems coping with that night but are going unnoticed by the media?
 
I would tend to agree with you under other circumstances but, it seems to me that this falls under the Americans with disabilities act.
Possibly. As I said, if he was forced out it would be wrong but that isn’t at all clear from the reporting; lots of implication, very little fact.

Granted this is different but it was still traumatic and how many other responders are having problems coping with that night but are going unnoticed by the media?
Completely but it’s precisely because of that I think this angle of this coverage is flawed. The implication is that because of his PTSD, the department should play the system to get him the better pension. That seems to brush over any general questions of support (financial and practical) for officers in his situation, applying individual hacks when it will look good.

It also suggests that an hard-working officer who wasn’t unlucky enough to suffer PTSD (or suffer it due to a high profile incident) is set to retire just before the pension step-up doesn’t deserve any consideration and that the underlying pension system that caused the issue in the first place doesn’t need reviewing.
 
Possibly. As I said, if he was forced out it would be wrong but that isn’t at all clear from the reporting; lots of implication, very little fact.

Completely but it’s precisely because of that I think this angle of this coverage is flawed. The implication is that because of his PTSD, the department should play the system to get him the better pension. That seems to brush over any general questions of support (financial and practical) for officers in his situation, applying individual hacks when it will look good.

It also suggests that an hard-working officer who wasn’t unlucky enough to suffer PTSD (or suffer it due to a high profile incident) is set to retire just before the pension step-up doesn’t deserve any consideration and that the underlying pension system that caused the issue in the first place doesn’t need reviewing.

I agree the story omits a lot of facts, even though this is a FOX news story the byline is the Orlando Sentinel.

Here is an excerpt from the original story about the retirement question. "An additional six months of employment — he has worked for the department for 9½ years — would have allowed him to become vested in the pension system and collect 64 percent of his salary with benefits for life. Delgado makes $38,500 annually, Town Clerk Cathy Williams said.

Eatonville police officer who saved Pulse victim losing job at end of month - Orlando Sentinel

Also this isn't the only Orlando cop suffering PTSD after the Pulse shooting. Here is another different department story.
Pension board approves early retirement for Orlando police officer with PTSD after Pulse - Orlando Sentinel

Two different departments with two different outcomes.

This needs to be addressed.
 
I agree the story omits a lot of facts, even though this is a FOX news story the byline is the Orlando Sentinel.

Here is an excerpt from the original story about the retirement question. "An additional six months of employment — he has worked for the department for 9½ years — would have allowed him to become vested in the pension system and collect 64 percent of his salary with benefits for life. Delgado makes $38,500 annually, Town Clerk Cathy Williams said.

Eatonville police officer who saved Pulse victim losing job at end of month - Orlando Sentinel

Also this isn't the only Orlando cop suffering PTSD after the Pulse shooting. Here is another different department story.
Pension board approves early retirement for Orlando police officer with PTSD after Pulse - Orlando Sentinel

Two different departments with two different outcomes.

This needs to be addressed.

I wonder if the department offered him a desk job and he refused it.

The article said both sides agreed to this action.
 
I wonder if the department offered him a desk job and he refused it.

The article said both sides agreed to this action.

I have no idea, I would assume that it was an either or situation, I am sure the union rep was a part of this.
 
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