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That's right, the President can't obstruct justice

Geoist said:
The Geneva Conventions.
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May I remind you what this discussion is actually about?

Geoist said:
The difference between targeting civilians and committing genocide is what civilians you target. Do you really think one is Constitutionally okay and the other is not?
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Geoist said:
Genocide is not a war power, certainly not one that is allowed under the Constitution. I would LOVE to hear your defense of the argument that genocide is Constitutional.
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Also:

Geoist said:
Gassing of civilians would literally be murder under the law. The president cannot do this, legally.
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Harshaw said:
May I remind you what this discussion is actually about?





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Perhaps "Constitutional" is the wrong word as murder is handled by the states and through international law. However, on the Constitution, I was thinking more on the level of an impeachable act. If intentionally targeting civilians, domestic or foreign, is not an impeachable act then I do not know what is.
 
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Geoist said:
Perhaps "Constitutional" is the wrong word as murder is handled by the states and through international law. However, on the Constitution, I was thinking more on the level of an impeachable act. If intentionally targeting civilians, domestic or foreign, is not an impeachable act then I do not know what is.
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It's not.
 
Geoist said:
Well then you have an extremely low standard for your president.
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Doesn't have anything to do with my "standards." It has to do with what the Constitution, and the law, actually are.
 
Harshaw said:
Doesn't have anything to do with my "standards." It has to do with what the Constitution, and the law, actually are.
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The Constitution allows for Congress to impeach the president for almost any reason. My only argument is that if targeting civilians is not an impeachable act then nothing is.
 
Geoist said:
The Constitution allows for Congress to impeach the president for almost any reason. My only argument is that if targeting civilians is not an impeachable act then nothing is.
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No one would impeach a President over Dresden.
 
Anthony60 said:
Yes, and Trump is at one end of the spectrum and Obama, for example, was at the other end. More like setting the country on fire though, not a school bus.
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They're both on the same end.

Obama was better at making things seem normal though.
Way better.
Kinda like Bill Clinton in that way.

Made/makes people think things are going well, while ****ing things up.

Trump is refreshing in that way, at least it's obvious he's ****ing things up, and he doesn't give a damn what we think about it.


Edit: I should say that both Clinton, Obama, and even Trump have done some good things (less so in Trump's case.

But the overall direction of them all has been and is wrong.
 
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