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Michael Flynn, Trump's ex-national security adviser, is expected to plead guilty Friday to lying to

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Orange jumpsuit suits him.
 
Flynn lied to the FBI, but there wasn’t collusion with the Russians if you read the court filing.

Swing and miss.

He took a plea bargain to a lesser charge and has likely provided information on other possible suspects in return for the plea. That's how it works in the court system. :)
 
ROTFLOL... this is going to backfire on the Left like it always does.

Flynn lied to the FBI during a background check for his job as NSA.

The next few months are likely to be full of painful new realizations for you.
 
He took a plea bargain to a lesser charge and has likely provided information on other possible suspects in return for the plea. That's how it works in the court system. :)

Hopefully he'll talk and help bring trump and his goons down...Lock them up!
 
The next few months are likely to be full of painful new realizations for you.

Yawn... we’ve heard that song before.

But the hope of the Socialists and NeverTrumpers never dies. At least you’re positive about something!!!
 
Keep swinging and wasting your energy. Once the tremendous excitement from the Leftists subsides, you’ll see my short and sweet OP was entirely accurate.

Meanwhile in the real world, the slow wheels of justice are a turn'n. Oops, was that Trump's former campaign manager and chief that just got crushed? Oh noes, his buddy Flynn took a plea deal?
Oh heaven's me, why is Mueller working from the bottom up rolling up charges and getting what appears to be please deals in place...who/what could they reveal?

If it had no value Mueller wouldn't do it, he'd nail Flynn to the wall, there were more charges he could have done.

Trump is already crippled and appears to have been the first president in recent history to enter the White House as a lame duck president. All his own doing of course.
He's also help cripple the Republican party, and their chances at the next election. That Mueller is cleaning up Trump's cronies is good.

*popcorn*
 
Yawn... we’ve heard that song before.

But the hope of the Socialists and NeverTrumpers never dies. At least you’re positive about something!!!

The song was right, though. Multiple indictments of high level Trump campaign staffers specifically regarding communications and dealing such with Russia. Now the National Security Adviser, one of the highest positions there is. How long can you keep lying to yourself?
 
Editor’s correction in red:
I am desperately hoping he took a plea bargain to a lesser charge and am hoping and praying that he has provided information on other possible suspects in return for the plea. I am hoping that's how it works in this instance. :)
 
“Spread the pain around... “ ROTFLOL...

Your disappointment will be crushing... again.

It's OK that you're so triggered and frightened. It WILL get better, but not before it gets much, much worse.

Tough times ahead.
 
The song was right, though. Multiple indictments of high level Trump campaign staffers specifically regarding communications and dealing such with Russia. Now the National Security Adviser, one of the highest positions there is. How long can you keep lying to yourself?

He lied to the FBI during a background check.

Trump relies on the FBI to vet his staffers.

D’is seemz tuh av dun flewed rite ower yer hed.
 
It's OK that you're so triggered and frightened. It WILL get better, but not before it gets much, much worse.

Tough times ahead.

Triggered?
Frightened?

ROTFLOL...

Hell, the past 12.5 months have been pure joy.

There is nothing like watching Leftists implode and shoot themselves... grasp desperately at straws, and behave in a manner which is well... let’s just say... excitable.
 


Orange jumpsuit suits him.


ROTFLOL...

You really want to go THERE???

This is why good lawyers never let the defendant take the stand... :)
 
No collusion.

Swing and miss at the Trump piñata.

Insert coin.

Swing again.

Amusing how every time there's a new development, the same sorry hacks start threads declaring "case closed, no collusion, sorry liberals and try not to drown in your delicious tears".

So desperate for a victory, you pretend this is over. You pretend that we're informed about every developing detail in this high profile criminal investigation, and thus there is no case based on what you know.

Sad.
 
Amusing how every time there's a new development, the same sorry hacks start threads declaring "case closed, no collusion, sorry liberals and try not to drown in your delicious tears".

So desperate for a victory, you pretend this is over. You pretend that we're informed about every developing detail in this high profile criminal investigation, and thus there is no case based on what you know.

Sad.

The blame Hillary crowd can't be far behind
 
Meanwhile in the real world, the slow wheels of justice are a turn'n. Oops, was that Trump's former campaign manager and chief that just got crushed? Oh noes, his buddy Flynn took a plea deal?
Oh heaven's me, why is Mueller working from the bottom up rolling up charges and getting what appears to be please deals in place...who/what could they reveal?

If it had no value Mueller wouldn't do it, he'd nail Flynn to the wall, there were more charges he could have done.

Trump is already crippled and appears to have been the first president in recent history to enter the White House as a lame duck president. All his own doing of course.
He's also help cripple the Republican party, and their chances at the next election. That Mueller is cleaning up Trump's cronies is good.

*popcorn*

This deserves more than just a like.

:applaud:yt:clap::yes::bravo:
 
Amusing how every time there's a new development, the same sorry hacks start threads declaring "case closed, no collusion, sorry liberals and try not to drown in your delicious tears".

So desperate for a victory, you pretend this is over. You pretend that we're informed about every developing detail in this high profile criminal investigation, and thus there is no case based on what you know.

Sad.

Flynn is pleading guilty to the charges posted in the link. You can read them.

I said in the OP, quite simply...

No collusion.

Swing and miss (at the Trump piñata).

I do believe the desperation is all yours. If you have something more... please share.
 
Flynn is pleading guilty to the charges posted in the link. You can read them.

I said in the OP, quite simply...

No collusion.

Swing and miss (at the Trump piñata).

I do believe the desperation is all yours. If you have something more... please share.

How is this proof there is no collusion?
 
This deserves more than just a like.

:applaud:yt:clap::yes::bravo:

Hey.... Psssst.

Tell your friend Trump has basically undone 8-years of Obama in 10-months... if that’s crippled... what was Obama?
 
Yes.

Flynn lied.

Swing and miss at the Trump piñata.
Flynn was in the Trump administration and working on behalf of Trump. I understand the kind of poster you are, but to anyone who is genuinely interested in the story, there's a VERY strong connection being made here.

I KNOW!!! I KNOW!!!

It's because Trump is a Russian puppet dictator who is both so brilliant that he managed to manipulate the outcome of an election that had already been decided by the parties and the press, but also so stupid that light bulbs dim when he walks by.

Did I get that right?
No, as usual, you missed the mark.

This is all so stupid. It's perfectly reasonable that Kislyak would have brought up the sanctions that were announced just that morning. It's also totally reasonable that Flynn, not knowing a damned thing about the sanctions, would have replied to that discussion with a phrase like "please hold off until we get set up". It's not collusion. The meeting happened in December. The election was over. Trump won. This was all normal transition stuff.
...sure. First of all, it's not "normal" transition stuff for an incoming President to undermine the current sitting president. That's been discussed plenty.

Second of all, if it was all "perfectly reasonable", then why would Flynn lie about it to the FBI? Why would the White House lie about it? And then why would the White House fire Flynn, but only after it was reported?

No, this is not "normal transition stuff". That's just nonsense and you know it.

You know what's going on here.
How long can you keep lying to yourself?
For some posters, it is not about lying to themselves, it's about who may read their lies.
 
Hey.... Psssst.

Tell your friend Trump has basically undone 8-years of Obama in 10-months... if that’s crippled... what was Obama?

"But Obama..."

How expected.
 
I don't think you read very closely:

"Specifically, Flynn is accused of falsely claiming that he had not asked Russia's ambassador to the United States Sergey Kislyak last Dec. 29 "to refrain from escalating the situation in response to sanctions that the United States had imposed against Russia that same day."

Flynn also allegedly lied by telling the FBI "he did not recall the Russian Ambassador subsequently telling him that Russia had chosen to moderate its response to those sanctions as a result of his request," the information says."

If those are the statements about which he lied to the FBI and is now being charged, then A) this most definitely involves the incoming Trump administration working with Russia and B) Flynn knowingly (allegedly) lied about his conversations with Russian officials. Why, oh why, would Flynn lie about conversations with Russian officials to the FBI?
1-How is requesting Russia NOT escalate a situation that could result in violence in response to imposed sanctions a bad thing and 2-How is a conversation held on 29 December, long after the election, between a sitting ambassador and an incoming administration...a-evidence of collusion regarding an election and b-in any way, shape or form a 'bad' thing?
 
1-How is requesting Russia NOT escalate a situation that could result in violence in response to imposed sanctions a bad thing
I think it was the lying to the FBI which was the bad thing.

and 2-How is a conversation held on 29 December, long after the election, between a sitting ambassador and an incoming administration...a-evidence of collusion regarding an election
Again, why do you think Flynn lied about it?

and b-in any way, shape or form a 'bad' thing?
Again, it was the lying which is getting Flynn arrested. Also, our country has a long tradition of only one President at a time and Trump's Administration, through Flynn, was basically undermining the sitting administration.

Also...you know.
 
Editor’s corrections in red:
Flynn was in the Trump administration and working on behalf of Trump. I understand the kind of poster you are, but to anyone who is genuinely interested in the story like you are but on the other side of the political aisle...despite no evidence of wrongdoing after a year, we are desperately hoping for something, anything which indicates even a TINY connection.

Democrats have been made fools of, and this incident with Flynn is unfortunate, but not an indication of the collusion you so desperately want.

Democrats are going to be sorely disappointed at the end of this.

The piñata will be swinging there, unchaffed by the thousands of swats by the twats. It is the media, which has evolved to a full fledged Goebbels Inspired Media Propagandists (GIMPs), and the Democrat Party which will take the hit.

And once again... there will be some extremely depressed Democrats.
 
1-How is requesting Russia NOT escalate a situation that could result in violence in response to imposed sanctions a bad thing
Why would he lie about it if it was not a bad thing?
2-How is a conversation held on 29 December, long after the election, between a sitting ambassador and an incoming administration...a-evidence of collusion regarding an election and b-in any way, shape or form a 'bad' thing?
'Stop using "collusion" as short-hand for criminality'

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/07/12/what-is-collusion-215366

Collusion is not a federal crime (except in the unique case of antitrust law), so we should all just stop using “collusion” as a short-hand for criminality. But that doesn’t mean that the alleged cooperation between the Trump campaign and Russia is of no criminal interest. To the contrary, if true, it may have violated any number of criminal prohibitions.
 
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