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Army veteran says Franken groped her during USO tour in 2003

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Kemplin's story bears striking resemblance to those of several other women who have accused Franken of groping in recent days.
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Yikes. Starting to sound serial.
 
Saladin4 said:
Photo showed nothing...Except Right Wing loons desperate to remove Al Franken...He is NOT resigning
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The Army veteran claimed she was groped by Franken.

Are you joining the classic Clinton Defense?

It seems so.

That’s fine, we know where and with what types you stand.

PS. Are you Frankenfurter’s press spokesperson? Nice to see you participate at www.debatepolitics.com
 
zimmer said:
The Army veteran claimed she was groped by Franken.

Are you joining the classic Clinton Defense?

It seems so.

That’s fine, we know where and with what types you stand.

PS. Are you Frankenfurter’s press spokesperson? Nice to see you participate at www.debatepolitics.com
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Photo showed nothing...Try again
 
zimmer said:
The Army veteran claimed she was groped by Franken.

Are you joining the classic Clinton Defense?

It seems so.

That’s fine, we know where and with what types you stand.

PS. Are you Frankenfurter’s press spokesperson? Nice to see you participate at www.debatepolitics.com
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So says the guy posting 30 Anti Hillary posts a day...Move on , your hero trump is floundering
 
Saladin4 said:
Photo showed nothing...Try again
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My... now The Clinton Defense demands photos of the precise moment.

At least you’re not demanding DNA samples.

I guess that’s progress.
 
Saladin4 said:
So says the guy posting 30 Anti Hillary posts a day...Move on , your hero trump is floundering
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This is supposed to be some type of indictment? ROTFLOL...

If you haven’t noticed, Democrats have been writing more than 30 anti-Hillary posts per day. Hell, there have been books by Democrats revealing her incompetence and outright corruption.

Is that you Begala?

Your defense is slipping.
 
Saladin4 said:
Photo showed nothing...Try again
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Would you think the same way if that was your daughter, sister or mom? I suppose you’ll say, “Yeah, pretty damned funny.” It’s not.
 
MaggieD said:
Would you think the same way if that was your daughter, sister or mom? I suppose you’ll say, “Yeah, pretty damned funny.” It’s not.
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That guy is not even worth trying to reason with.
 
HowardBThiname said:
What's the difference between groping and *****-grabbing?
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If you do the first one, the right wing demands your ouster from office... if you do the second, they vote for you and make you President of the USA. ;)
 
haymarket said:
If you do the first one, the right wing demands your ouster from office... if you do the second, they vote for you and make you President of the USA. ;)
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What a difference a photo makes. ;) ;)
 
MaggieD said:
Would you think the same way if that was your daughter, sister or mom? I suppose you’ll say, “Yeah, pretty damned funny.” It’s not.
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It's also not funny when Trump walked in purposely on Pageant contestants changing or bragging about ***** grabbing, but we all know how Republicans held Trump accountable for those. They elected him president.

So if you're going to use the "What if it was YOUR daughter" attack, then it applies to ALL, not just Franken.

IMO, yes, Franken should resign for the betterment of the Democratic Party. I also feel Trump should have withdrawn his nomination as well.
 
MaggieD said:
Would you think the same way if that was your daughter, sister or mom? I suppose you’ll say, “Yeah, pretty damned funny.” It’s not.
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What I would expect my daughter, sister to do would be to shut down the groping with a stern look or word.

We have a potential problem developing here with all these "touching" accusations. We're, by default, shoving women into a weaker, helpless box once again. We're saying, in effect, that women don't have the emotional or mental capability to shut the gropers down.

That's a tad dangerous -- it's a bit similar to the way Muslim men treat their women. Cover them to keep wandering eyes away, don't let them out without male (familial) escorts.

The suffragettes didn't want to be viewed as lesser humans -- and especially not as helpless victims. But, we're moving slightly in that direction now, when we insist on taking down any male who ever touched a female in a way that wasn't wanted by the female.

That's not equality -- that' defining women as victims to be preyed upon by ruthless males.

In reality, if Franken grabbed a boob, he'd quickly be put in his place if the female told him, "**** off, pencil-dick."

We can't empower women by turning them into victims.
 
zimmer said:
If you haven’t noticed, Democrats have been writing more than 30 anti-Hillary posts per day. Hell, there have been books by Democrats revealing her incompetence and outright corruption.
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Doesn't that mean that Liberals are being far more honest than Conservatives these days?

- Despite the DNC rigging the Primaries towards Clinton, Democrats were almost split between Sanders (43%) and Clinton (55%). Were it not for the DNC, Sanders may have won. However, Republicans elected Trump (who had no agenda at all under his moronic and shallow slogans) out of the GOP Primaries with fourteen million votes. The closest was Cruz with only seven million.

- Franken is under an ethics committee review. Apologies and acknowledgments have been given. Conyer stepped down from heading his committee, thereby acknowledging his conduct. Whether they "resign" or not, both are most probably politically finished. Their time is over.

- The Hollywood elite (so-called Liberals) continue to go down.

- Even the media has drawn a line and fired Bill O'Reilly (FOX), Matt Lauer (NBC), and Charlie Rose (CBS).

This seems to be a time where most are looking to draw a moral line.

* In the mean time...

- Conservatives completely ignored Trump's rant on how little he respects marriage and women and still defend it today as mere "locker room" talk. Trump simply denies.

- Conservatives give Roy Moore a pass because even God liked him some teenagers. Moore simply denies.

And as long as Moore or Trump simply deny, it allows Conservatives and Republicans to pretend that there is nothing there and that their support is based on some false sense of "innocent until proven guilty" garbage. Anything for team spirit, right? And now the great defense of Moore and Trump has moved to simply pointing out that Franken hasn't resigned, thereby acknowledging that they are cut from the same cloth.

See how that circle of hypocrisy and contradiction works? Despite an overwhelming amount of evidence and accusations, Conservatives allow Moore his sad denials, even as his associates move to approve of his conduct because of a story about God and Mary. Despite Trump's own recorded words about his own depravity, he was enthusiastically elected twice (Primaries and General) to represent the traditional Christian and family values of the Right; and now he supports Moore from a distance so as not to get too involved in his personal crap, thereby shining light back on his own behavior. But then Trump is sure to point out that NBC fired Matt Lauer over his conduct in an attempt to accuse the studio head of inappropriate behavior too.

I just don't understand why so many Conservatives actually demand to remain asleep at the wheel.

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haymarket said:
If you do the first one, the right wing demands your ouster from office... if you do the second, they vote for you and make you President of the USA. ;)
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He said... when you are star you can grab their ******s... and as so many elected Democrats, their typists and TV propagandists have proven... they did!

For decades your party elevated a pervert, perjurer, disbarred prevaricator and his scummy hatchetman wife to party royalty. I guess the remainder of the party figured what he can do, I can do too.

Oops! Miscalculated.
 
MSgt said:
Doesn't that mean that Liberals are being far more honest than Conservatives these days?

- Despite the DNC rigging the Primaries towards Clinton, Democrats were almost split between Sanders (43%) and Clinton (55%). However, Republicans elected Trump (who had no agenda at all) out of the GOP Primaries with fourteen million votes. The closest was Cruz with only seven million.

- Franken is under an ethics committee review. Conyer stepped down. Both are probably politically finished.

- The Hollywood elite (so-called Liberals) continue to go down.

- Even the media has drawn a line and fired Bill O'Reilly (FOX), Matt Lauer (NBC), and Charlie Rose (CBS).


* In the mean time...

- Conservatives completely ignored Trump's rant on how little he respects marriage and women and still defend it today as mere "locker room" talk. Trump simply denies.

- Conservatives give Roy Moore a pass because even God liked him some teenagers. Moore simply denies.

And as long as Moore or Trump simply deny, it allows Conservatives and Republicans to pretend that there is nothing there and that their support is based on some false sense of "innocent until proven guilty" garbage. Anything for team spirit, right? And now the great defense of Moore and Trump has moved to simply pointing out that Franken hasn't resigned, thereby acknowledging that they are cut from the same cloth.

See how that circle of hypocrisy and contradiction works? Despite an overwhelming amount of evidence and accusations, Conservatives allow Moore his sad denials, even as his associates move to approve of his conduct because of a story about God and Mary. Despite Trump's own recorded words about his own depravity, he was enthusiastically elected twice (Primaries and General) to represent the traditional Christian and family values of the Right; and now he supports Moore from a distance so as not to get too involved in his personal crap, thereby shining light back on his own behavior. But then Trump is sure to point out that NBC fired Matt Lauer over his conduct in an attempt to accuse the studio head of inappropriate behavior too.

I just don't understand why so many Conservatives are still asleep at the wheel.
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Please, MSgt. Don't call the Trump supporters "conservatives". They aren't. Just like they aren't Republicans. And no real Republican would consider voting for him in the primary - or the general election, for that matter.

Trump supporters have serious issues, and it's upsetting to real Republicans and real conservatives to be lumped in with them.

By the way, your assessment of the Trump supporters/fan base is 100% spot on. The stench of their hypocrisy can be smelled all over the Earth.
 
MSgt said:
Doesn't that mean that Liberals are being far more honest than Conservatives these days?
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ROTFLOL...

No. Honesty is no the strength of the Democratic Communists.

If you haven’t noticed, it’s not only hit their politicians, but the propaganda arms in Hollywood, typist and TV media.

It used to be a collective, protective... jerk of circle... now it’s every man for himself!

More shoes will drop. The most obvious perverts are being exposed first...

NEXT!!!
 
tres borrachos said:
Please, MSgt. Don't call the Trump supporters "conservatives". They aren't. Just like they aren't Republicans. And no real Republican would consider voting for him in the primary - or the general election, for that matter.

Trump supporters have serious issues, and it's upsetting to real Republicans and real conservatives to be lumped in with them.

By the way, your assessment of the Trump supporters/fan base is 100% spot on. The stench of their hypocrisy can be smelled all over the Earth.
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I have a question? Why are you doing your best to agitate and start crap in every thread doing your best to instigate a food fight? You did it in the John Conyers thread. You did it in the Matt Lauer thread. Now you are starting it in the Franken thread.

Please stop.
 
vesper said:
I have a question? Why are you doing your best to agitate and start crap in every thread doing your best to instigate a food fight? You did it in the John Conyers thread. You did it in the Matt Lauer thread. Now you are starting it in the Franken thread.

Please stop.
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I have a question. Why don't you just not read my posts instead of crying about them in here and making your passive aggressive post in the other thread to jmac, also crying about my posts?

Then you'll feel better and I won't make you cry. Sound good, Vesper?
 
zimmer said:
he said... When you are star you can grab their ******s... And as so many elected democrats, their typists and tv propagandists have proven... They did!

For decades your party elevated a pervert, perjurer, disbarred prevaricator and his scummy hatchetman wife to party royalty. I guess the remainder of the party figured what he can do, i can do too.

Oops! Miscalculated.
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