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Firm behind dubious Trump-Russia dossier paid multiple journalists for work

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Fusion GPS[FONT=&quot], the liberal research firm that funded and distributed the anti-[/FONT]Trump[FONT=&quot] dossier, has paid three journalists for work related to Congress’ Russia probe, according to court filings.

[/FONT][FONT=&quot]The journalists’ names are blacked out. Documents list 10 House-demanded bank transactions from Fusion, or its conduits, to journalists.

[/FONT]https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/nov/24/fusion-gps-russian-dossier-firm-paid-journalists-w/
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Goebbels would be proud.
 
Better bring your assault plunger, because its about to hit the fan.
 
With this being the main case against trump this could end up with egg all over the DNC and democrats face.
More so when they are trying to use this to oust an elected president.

This sham document should be exactly what it is.

The fact that clinton and the dnc paid for an ex spy to hunt down information from Russia they should be investigated for the same charges.
 
ludin said:
With this being the main case against trump this could end up with egg all over the DNC and democrats face.
More so when they are trying to use this to oust an elected president.

This sham document should be exactly what it is.

The fact that clinton and the dnc paid for an ex spy to hunt down information from Russia they should be investigated for the same charges.
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Where do you get this nonsense that the dossier is "THE MAIN CASE AGAINST TRUMP"? It is but one item that caused some questions to be asked and now the investigation into Trump and his associates in his campaign is proceeding independently of that.
 
We are not investigating Trump because of the Steele dossier; which BTW, has proven to be accurate in at least some regards.

Trump and his marry band of goons are being investigated because the FBI became aware of undisclosed negotiations (Logan act) with Russian nationals during the campaign, which they all lied about on federal documents -- a felony on it's own.

Out of that came the need for a special prosecutor, who can follow any leads once the door is open, just like Ken Starr did against Bill Clinton twenty odd years ago.
 
haymarket said:
Where do you get this nonsense that the dossier is "THE MAIN CASE AGAINST TRUMP"? It is but one item that caused some questions to be asked and now the investigation into Trump and his associates in his campaign is proceeding independently of that.
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What is the actual proof that Trump Colluded with the Russians?
 
MovingPictures said:
We are not investigating Trump because of the Steele dossier; which BTW, has proven to be accurate in at least some regards.

Trump and his marry band of goons are being investigated because the FBI became aware of undisclosed negotiations (Logan act) with Russian nationals during the campaign, which they all lied about on federal documents -- a felony on it's own.

Out of that came the need for a special prosecutor, who can follow any leads once the door is open, just like Ken Starr did against Bill Clinton twenty odd years ago.
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What are the "some regards" ,exactly, in which the Dossier has "proven to be accurate"?

Are you asserting that nobody from the DNC or the Clinton Campaign ever spoke to any Russian during the Campaign? Would it make this more damning if I had inserted "(Logan Act)" into the question?
 
Today's talking points from RWNJ Central obviously includes the instruction, "Hammer the 'journalists were paid!' line."

OK, good little channelers you drones are, you've done a good job of flinging the feces, just like your were bade.

Funny, though, how not a single one of you bothers to mention why you think this is significant.
 
ludin said:
With this being the main case against trump this could end up with egg all over the DNC and democrats face.
More so when they are trying to use this to oust an elected president.

This sham document should be exactly what it is.

The fact that clinton and the dnc paid for an ex spy to hunt down information from Russia they should be investigated for the same charges.
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While it is true the dems have a lot of explaining to do, just remember that it was a Republican, John McCain who passed it along to the FBI.

McCain who was pissed at Trump (and rightfully so) for earlier comments put himself before country by doing what he did. Seems to be a trait (see Jeff Flake) that is inherent in Republicans. At least those from Arizona.
 
Many "journalists" are just like so many "soldiers", mercenaries working for who will pay them most.
 
code1211 said:
What is the actual proof that Trump Colluded with the Russians?
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There is none, but US society today is rather like those admiring the Emperor's New Clothes. Crowds behave in strange ways, and misery loves company. :mrgreen:
 
code1211 said:
What is the actual proof that Trump Colluded with the Russians?
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The investigation isn't finished yet.

At this point it's obvious one of two things is true:
1) Trump was aware of the numerous Russian connections in his campaign, and chose to remain silent and do nothing, or
2) Trump was somehow unaware of this, proving he is utterly incompetent.

If you're choosing the second option, well, that's your decision to make.
 
Thoreau72 said:
Many "journalists" are just like so many "soldiers", mercenaries working for who will pay them most.
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Getting paid to do investigative journalism is good, ethical, and normal. Suggesting it isn't is ignorant at best. Calling them a mercenary is just ignorant demonizing.

I use to take jobs in part on who paid the most in terms of quality of work, prestige, and pay. You suggest they are somehow bad for doing this same? How can you write such nonsense?

Nearly every investigator of every crime or story, was paid. Are you not embarrassed by the stupid **** say in defense of a con artist?

All that matters is whether or not they uncovered facts, what their supporting evidence/methods were, and if it can be corroborated.
 
Deuce said:
The investigation isn't finished yet.

At this point it's obvious one of two things is true:
1) Trump was aware of the numerous Russian connections in his campaign, and chose to remain silent and do nothing, or
2) Trump was somehow unaware of this, proving he is utterly incompetent.

If you're choosing the second option, well, that's your decision to make.
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Neither of those things is obvious.

What IS obvious is that the investigation was put into motion to investigate Trump, not a crime that occurred, simply because Trump is hated by the Establishment.

What is the crime that is being investigated?

As far as I can tell, there is none.
 
Mach said:
Getting paid to do investigative journalism is good, ethical, and normal. Suggesting it isn't is ignorant at best. Calling them a mercenary is just ignorant demonizing.

I use to take jobs in part on who paid the most in terms of quality of work, prestige, and pay. You suggest they are somehow bad for doing this same? How can you write such nonsense?

Nearly every investigator of every crime or story, was paid. Are you not embarrassed by the stupid **** say in defense of a con artist?

All that matters is whether or not they uncovered facts, what their supporting evidence/methods were, and if it can be corroborated.
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Oh! I see!

Like the irrationally biased and intentionally deceptive Dan Rather and the editorial staff of CBS that lied about George Bush?

Got it!

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/cbs-ousts-4-for-bush-guard-story-10-01-2005/
 
washunut said:
While it is true the dems have a lot of explaining to do, just remember that it was a Republican, John McCain who passed it along to the FBI.

McCain who was pissed at Trump (and rightfully so) for earlier comments put himself before country by doing what he did. Seems to be a trait (see Jeff Flake) that is inherent in Republicans. At least those from Arizona.
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I am not worried about McCain. The fact is that this document was bought and paid for by the DNC and clinton.
They used spy's who paid Russian operatives to find evidence against trump. They paid a radical left wing paper to cook up unfounded allegation. All of that has lead and been used as the primary source of evidence in these investigations.

The fact that we now know that his document is bs that right there should end any investigation into trump.

I honestly have never seen a more crooked and down right corrupt attempt to oust a president in my life.
 
Mach said:
Getting paid to do investigative journalism is good, ethical, and normal. Suggesting it isn't is ignorant at best. Calling them a mercenary is just ignorant demonizing.

I use to take jobs in part on who paid the most in terms of quality of work, prestige, and pay. You suggest they are somehow bad for doing this same? How can you write such nonsense?

Nearly every investigator of every crime or story, was paid. Are you not embarrassed by the stupid **** say in defense of a con artist?

All that matters is whether or not they uncovered facts, what their supporting evidence/methods were, and if it can be corroborated.
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Your criticism is accurate, but in my defense I did use the word "many", not the word "all".

Yes of course there are conscientious journalists, and I greatly admire and respect them. One is Sharyl Attkisson, and I am reading her book "The Smear" right now, so pardon my cynicism. My cynicism also makes me wonder whether the majority of journalists fall into the good and conscientious category, or some other category. Are there more good journalists than bad?

Which con artist do you have me defending?
 
So people should do such work for free? Dont see the problem.
 
code1211 said:
What is the actual proof that Trump Colluded with the Russians?
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When you invoke the name of TRUMP - are you referring to only Donald Trump senior or doest he name TRUMP also refer to the campaign?

Either way - Patience is a virtue.... you should display some and await the official findings of Mr. Mueller.
 
It must really burn you Adorables up knowing that if your Dear Leader had not fired Comey, there would be no Mueller.:lamo Karma is a what?
 
haymarket said:
When you invoke the name of TRUMP - are you referring to only Donald Trump senior or doest he name TRUMP also refer to the campaign?

Either way - Patience is a virtue.... you should display some and await the official findings of Mr. Mueller.
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The point is that the US Justice System, a phrase that is fraught with irony, is presumed to be one that identifies a particular crime that has has occurred and, AFTER that, they initiate an investigation to find out WHO did the crime.

In this case, the US Justice system has identified the criminal and now they are investigating to figure out what crime can be attributed to the preordained criminal.

Otherwise known as a witch hunt.
 
yankintx said:
It must really burn you Adorables up knowing that if your Dear Leader had not fired Comey, there would be no Mueller.:lamo Karma is a what?
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Conversely, if there had been no Mueller, there would have been no Comey.

This is a legally incestuous mess.
 
I believe Mueller will be leaving some indictments under the WH Xmas tree.:2razz:
 
code1211 said:
The point is that the US Justice System, a phrase that is fraught with irony, is presumed to be one that identifies a particular crime that has has occurred and, AFTER that, they initiate an investigation to find out WHO did the crime.

In this case, the US Justice system has identified the criminal and now they are investigating to figure out what crime can be attributed to the preordained criminal.

Otherwise known as a witch hunt.
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Though, no doubt the US system of justice has severe issues that have become increasingly visible with growing transparency, reasons to complain are from a high level of protection of citizen rights. I have repeatedly observed that it is pretty good compared to the quality in other countries I have lived in or dealt with in business, if your reference is related to reliable and general fair rule of law.
 
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