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Report: Trump Revealed Israeli Commando and Mossad Operation in Syria to Russians

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Report: Trump Revealed Israeli Commando and Mossad Operation in Syria to Russians


Haaretz
Nov 23, 2017

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When U.S. President Donald Trump revealed Israeli intelligence*to senior Russian officials in March, he disclosed details of a covert Israeli mission to penetrate an Islamic State cell deep in Syria, claimed*Vanity Fair's Howard Blum on Wednesday. Israel's counterterrorism unit, working along with members of the Mossad, obtained information that a Syrian Islamic State cell had developed bombs that could be placed in laptops and then go through airport security undetected.*Trump allegedly gave this information to the Russian officials. According to the report, this discovery prompted the Trump administration as well as the British authorities to ban laptops and other electronics on airplanes*until airports could comply with more strict security guidelines. Trump reportedly passed the intelligence to the Russians without first notifying and discussing the decision with Israeli principals. According to Vanity Fair, this violation of U.S.-Israeli trust implicated the larger Middle East, as Israel assumed Russia would pass this intelligence information to their allies: the Iranians.

In January, it was reported that Israeli intelligence officials were concerned that the exposure of classified information to their American counterparts in the Trump administration could lead to it being leaked to Russia and onward to Iran. The intelligence concerns, which had been discussed in closed forums, were based on suspicions of ties between Trump, or his associates, and the government of Vladimir Putin in Moscow. While Trump's disclosure of intelligence was non-conventional, the president of the United States has the legal right to disclose intelligence at his discretion and Trump's actions were in no way illegal.

Whether an Israeli or a Jordanian source, established intelligence protocol requires obtaining the permission of the source agency/government before sharing classified intel with third [foreign] parties.
 
But remember, there’s absolutely no reason to be concerned about possible ties between Trump and Russia. It was totally worth risking the lives of Israeli Commandos for... something.
 
Report: Trump Revealed Israeli Commando and Mossad Operation in Syria to Russians




Whether an Israeli or a Jordanian source, established intelligence protocol requires obtaining the permission of the source agency/government before sharing classified intel with third [foreign] parties.

I can actually remember discussing this not this morning, when someone posted it. No. I can remember way back when, when it happened. Silly bluper of a President with no experience in foreign policy and and the fineries of intelligence agency traditions. It was really quite interesting as it was just the thing to expect, if you put someone in a job without the required experience. Trump’s predecessor made similar mistakes for which the chickens are coming home to roost.
 
If this was Obama, the GOP Congress would be lining up investigations.

Fortunately, the Israelis now know not to share intel with Trump because he can't be trusted to not spill the beans.
 
Think this is the same information?

https://www.debatepolitics.com/us-partisan-politics-and-political-platforms/302434-treason-looks-like.html



As president, Trump has broad authority to declassify government secrets, making it unlikely that his disclosures broke the law.

White House officials involved in the meeting said Trump discussed only shared concerns about terrorism.

“The president and the foreign minister reviewed common threats from terrorist organizations to include threats to aviation,” said H.R. McMaster, the national security adviser, who participated in the meeting. “At no time were any intelligence sources or methods discussed, and no military operations were disclosed that were not already known publicly.”
 
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Think this is the same information?

https://www.debatepolitics.com/us-partisan-politics-and-political-platforms/302434-treason-looks-like.html



As president, Trump has broad authority to declassify government secrets, making it unlikely that his disclosures broke the law.

Trump does not have the authority to declassify intelligence that originated from allied sources. (I.e Israel.)

In the intel world, we add caveats as to who can receive these reports for a reason. We don’t add “//REL TO FVEY” or “//NOFORN” for fun. We do it beside it prevents Russia (and by extension, Iran) to know that we have the capability to know. Which compromises both capabilities and the lives of possible human sources.

But legally speaking, you are right. Trump can declassify intelligence as he wishes. But can you agree that declassifying Intel fathered from our alllies in the ME is a dangerous concept?
 
Trump does not have the authority to declassify intelligence that originated from allied sources. (I.e Israel.)

In the intel world, we add caveats as to who can receive these reports for a reason. We don’t add “//REL TO FVEY” or “//NOFORN” for fun. We do it beside it prevents Russia (and by extension, Iran) to know that we have the capability to know. Which compromises both capabilities and the lives of possible human sources.

But legally speaking, you are right. Trump can declassify intelligence as he wishes. But can you agree that declassifying Intel fathered from our alllies in the ME is a dangerous concept?


From the story:
“The president and the foreign minister reviewed common threats from terrorist organizations to include threats to aviation,” said H.R. McMaster, the national security adviser, who participated in the meeting. “At no time were any intelligence sources or methods discussed, and no military operations were disclosed that were not already known publicly.”
 
Couldn’t even get to the article.

The link worked for me and obviously for others.

Click bait. Got a respected source? Ever hear of disinformation?

Respected by who? You? Haaretz (The Land) has been published since 1918 and is owned/distributed by the New York Times.

I still can't decide if the Russians here are laughing about Trumps intel blabbing or a Trump "grabbing *****" anecdote.

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From the story:
“The president and the foreign minister reviewed common threats from terrorist organizations to include threats to aviation,” said H.R. McMaster, the national security adviser, who participated in the meeting. “At no time were any intelligence sources or methods discussed, and no military operations were disclosed that were not already known publicly.”

General McMaster can say whatever he likes, but considering he never worked as an intelligence officer I’ll take what he said with a grain of salt. Anyone with any time spent working with sensitive information would know better than to think sharing classified information with people without the classification or need to know is harmless.
 
Report: Trump Revealed Israeli Commando and Mossad Operation in Syria to Russians




Whether an Israeli or a Jordanian source, established intelligence protocol requires obtaining the permission of the source agency/government before sharing classified intel with third [foreign] parties.

I have to say these Trump era scandals a really bland compared to the scandals of the last administration

Like when Obama used the IRS to target innocent American citizens based on Political affiliation.

Or when he used his DOJ to target journalist and hack into their phone records

Or when he flew 400 million USD to the leading State sponsor of terror, or when he made billions of dollars in illegal payments to insurance companies

Of-course you people ignored every one of these scandals ( and so much more ) but that only legitimized them even more.

I guess we'll have to wait for the next Democrat administration to see a REAL Presidential scandal again
 
I have to say these Trump era scandals a really bland compared to the scandals of the last administration


Yeah those Obama scandals were real ***** grabbers by comparison. And you expect to be taken seriously?
 
General McMaster can say whatever he likes, but considering he never worked as an intelligence officer I’ll take what he said with a grain of salt. Anyone with any time spent working with sensitive information would know better than to think sharing classified information with people without the classification or need to know is harmless.

I am sure you know more about it than a Lieutenant General in the United States Army and National Security Advisor to President Trump.
Again read what he said: “At no time were any intelligence sources or methods discussed, and no military operations were disclosed that were not already known publicly.”
 
Yeah those Obama scandals were real ***** grabbers by comparison. And you expect to be taken seriously?

You dudes are retreading a story from 8 months ago. :lamo
 
I am sure you know more about it than a Lieutenant General in the United States Army and National Security Advisor to President Trump.
Again read what he said: “At no time were any intelligence sources or methods discussed, and no military operations were disclosed that were not already known publicly.”

Yes. I’m sure I can provide a more factual account on the importance of Operational security than a 3 Star who has everything to lose for speaking truthfully and correctly about his boss mishandling information.
 
Yes. I’m sure I can provide a more factual account on the importance of Operational security than a 3 Star who has everything to lose for speaking truthfully and correctly about his boss mishandling information.

I can too, but do you have enough access to the information to know if operational security was threatened?
 
Yes. I’m sure I can provide a more factual account on the importance of Operational security than a 3 Star who has everything to lose for speaking truthfully and correctly about his boss mishandling information.

No you can not. Just because you may have a clearance does not mean you have any more background in managing Operational security.
Many people have Top Secret code word need to know clearances.

Again read what he said: “At no time were any intelligence sources or methods discussed, and no military operations were disclosed that were not already known publicly.”
 

It’s a very interesting story. I wonder why major media didn’t cover it. And I wonder if it’s true. Also wonder why the airports lifted their ban on electronics seeing that they had intelligence that said laptops were being turned into bombs that were undetectable. Doesn’t make sense that ban would ever be lifted. And it doesn’t wash that we wouldn’t have done the exact same thing. Care to hazard a guess?

Easy to get to.

My difficulties may be due to my using an IPad. Don’t know. But I couldn’t load the original link. I often have problems loading click bait sites. Just keeps giving me a message “There was a problem loading this web page. Reloading now.” Or some such.
 
Couldn’t even get to the article. Click bait. Got a respected source? Ever hear of disinformation?

I have to disagree. That source is not a click bait source at all. It is a respectable news source, just in Israel.
 
It’s a very interesting story. I wonder why major media didn’t cover it. And I wonder if it’s true. Also wonder why the airports lifted their ban on electronics seeing that they had intelligence that said laptops were being turned into bombs that were undetectable. Doesn’t make sense that ban would ever be lifted. And it doesn’t wash that we wouldn’t have done the exact same thing. Care to hazard a guess?



My difficulties may be due to my using an IPad. Don’t know. But I couldn’t load the original link. I often have problems loading click bait sites. Just keeps giving me a message “There was a problem loading this web page. Reloading now.” Or some such.

It was a gigantic, colossal story, but trump buried it with the next gigantic scandal as he's fond of doing.
 
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