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Ratko Mladić convicted of war crimes and genocide at UN tribunal

Fledermaus said:
Yes. Conventional weapons used conventionally.... Twasn't ethnic cleansing.
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No this was ethnic cleansing and all manner of crimes aginst humanity in the most brutal fashion. I worked at one of those special places when I was in the Air Force and I saw the intelligence reports. My mind couldn't even comprehend the horror.
 
DaveFagan said:
Check the dates when Kurds were killed, and then check the dates when Saddam declared he had got rid of all WMDs and unfettered inspections by UN representatives verified that fact. Wake up!
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Ah, the usual CTer nonsense. Typical babbling about "waking up" which in CTer world always means "ignore facts and reality in favor of utter bull****."
 
dobieg said:
No this was ethnic cleansing and all manner of crimes aginst humanity in the most brutal fashion. I worked at one of those special places when I was in the Air Force and I saw the intelligence reports. My mind couldn't even comprehend the horror.
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He's talking about the bombing of Dresden not being ethnic cleansing
 
Buzz62 said:
I saw what happened quite clearly. I saw Baghdad in flames. Ya...I think allot of innocent people were killed.
We also know about Hiroshima and Nagasaki. And lets not forget the crap the USA supported, financed and aided in while purchasing South America. The African governments being supported today by the USA and most of NATO, who butcher people and engage in real live slavery. And then there's the ****ing Saudis.
Don't wave the Stars and Stripes while lecturing anybody about these "rules of war" you think anybody pays attention to.

You have no idea what the people who Mladic had killed were up to.
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Ooh, "Baghdad in flames". Very melodramatic. Rather irrelevant, since the Iraqis had nothing to do with the Serbian thugs murdering innocent civilians, but hey, any excuse, right?

Oh, you mean Hiroshima and Nagasaki, the nuclear strikes which saved the lives of millions of Allied and Japanese soldiers and civilians? Yeah.....that doesn't justify the murder of innocent civilians by Serbian death squads.

What exactly does anything in South America have to do with Serbian war criminals again?

Ah, yet more vague wailing about "regimes America and NATO supports".

And then you've got the usual bogeymen the Saudis. Clearly that justifies the murder of innocent people.....oh wait. No, it does not.

So in other words you have your usual Neo Fascist total disdain for historical accuracy and think that anti Americanism will justify your support of the murder of innocent civilians.

What a despicable post. You are seriously trying to justify this ****head's war crimes? I repeat--- "what the **** is wrong with you"? The people Mladic had killed weren't "up to anything".
 
dobieg said:
No this was ethnic cleansing and all manner of crimes aginst humanity in the most brutal fashion. I worked at one of those special places when I was in the Air Force and I saw the intelligence reports. My mind couldn't even comprehend the horror.
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Bull**** flag is waving......
 
Buzz62 said:
OMG...:doh
The war was a war to maintain Yugoslavia as a whole, with Serb dominance...not some Serbian campaign to wipe out all Muslims.
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How do you say "your crazy" in Bosnian? I think you must be naive and young. He's the reason we went into Bosnia. We lost American lives because of him

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Ratko was a dirt bag of the highest order. What his thugs did to innocent civilians was on par to Germn Nazis. Brutal, devious people who seemed to especially enjoy torture in very unique ways.
 
Fledermaus said:
I believe that.
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Well I could still tell you the PRF, PRI, PD and RF of the Sa-6 that shot down Scott O'Grady because I was working in the Skif doing live threat at the time.

Or perhaps you need to see my DD-214 that shows I'm a 60% disabled vet and my MOS was an 1N551.
 
dobieg said:
Well I could still tell you the PRF, PRI, PD and RF of the Sa-6 that shot down Scott O'Grady because I was working in the Skif doing live threat at the time.

Or perhaps you need to see my DD-214 that shows I'm a 60% disabled vet and my MOS was an 1N551.
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I don't care.

DRESDEN was not "ethnic cleansing ".
 
US Planes pounded Serbia......Those thugs got what they deserved...One of Bill Clinton's finest hours....
 
What happened to this thread? Can't we accept that genocide is bad and this guy helped perform one without getting into an argument about how every western leader we don't like is a homicidal maniac?
 
Will Marshall said:
What happened to this thread? Can't we accept that genocide is bad and this guy helped perform one without getting into an argument about how every western leader we don't like is a homicidal maniac?
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Apparently there are people who have a problem with the premise that "genocide is bad".
 
DaveFagan said:
Ah yes. One boatload of dead Iraqi Kurds via Saddam and precursors sold to him by the USA. 50 boatoads of dead Iraqis of all ethnicities by GWBush. So you must see exactly what I am talking about but deny it.

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Please explain what "precursors" killed the Kurds.

I bet you can't.
 
Serbs demonized for resisting Roman Catholic and Muslim aggression. ...
Same as Myanmar now being demonized for resisting Vatican-Islam aggression. ..
Same as Europe and USA now being attacked by Vatican backed Muslim and African invaders.
 
John Prewett said:
Serbs demonized for resisting Roman Catholic and Muslim aggression. ...
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You believe Mladic is innocent of the crimes he was convicted of? You can't be serious.
 
Buzz62 said:
Genocide? I believe there are still lots of Yugo Muslims left...:roll:
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Seeing as they number more then 1.5 billion, I believe the faired far better after their genocide. Then the Jewish people could ever hope to recoup their own numbers too.

It was not a genocide, though I would still have to categorize it as a war-crime. Despite the fact that they were fighting a nearly defensive war the whole time.
 
Fledermaus said:
Please explain what "precursors" killed the Kurds.

I bet you can't.
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We sold the chemicals that, when mixed, make the deadly gas. You are suggesting that guns, knives and poison don't kill people.How are things in the alternate universe?.
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Oborosen said:
Seeing as they number more then 1.5 billion, I believe the faired far better after their genocide. Then the Jewish people could ever hope to recoup their own numbers too.

It was not a genocide, though I would still have to categorize it as a war-crime. Despite the fact that they were fighting a nearly defensive war the whole time.
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I would agree that the actions taken by the Serbs in places like Srebrenica were horrific. However the very idea of rules to war has always sounded stupid to me. I also find the condemnation and prosecution of these Serbs, rather a 1-sided affair. Its been conveniently forgotten that the Serbs fought along side the Allies in WWI, and that it was the "Ustaše" of the Croats, that brought the first wave of modern genocidal actions to Yugoslavia...against the Serbs, who were again, fighting with the Allies in WWII.

Mladic and other Serb military are still alive to be prosecuted by the very people he and his Serb compatriots fought with in both world wars. May I suggest that some of you actually learn about the history of Yugoslavia, so that while you're busy with your infernal justice signaling, you actually have some idea of what happened and why? If you do, you may just find yourself understanding that, while the actions of the Serb military was brutal and murderous, and while 2 "wrongs" do not make a "right", there were many "wrongs" being perpetrated and that payback is a bitch.

https://www.ricksteves.com/watch-read-listen/read/understanding-yugoslavia
 
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Buzz62 said:
I'm not trying to "justify" jack ****...and how many times do I have to tell you?
I am not your "bud".
I'm pointing out that war is war. That "innocents" die in a war, and that if you expect there to be rules to killing in a war, then you truly do live in an alternate reality.
The idea of a war, is to LIVE. And to do that in a war, you must either hide your ass real good, or kill the enemy. In "wholesale" fashion if at all possible.
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There's a difference between waging war to achieve political and strategic goals and ethnically cleansing a population.
 
Buzz62 said:
OMG...:doh
The war was a war to maintain Yugoslavia as a whole, with Serb dominance...not some Serbian campaign to wipe out all Muslims.
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That just conveniently involved murdering tens of thousands of Bosnians and Croatians. Right.
 
Buzz62 said:
I would agree that the actions taken by the Serbs in places like Srebrenica were horrific. However the very idea of rules to war has always sounded stupid to me. I also find the condemnation and prosecution of these Serbs, rather a 1-sided affair. Its been conveniently forgotten that the Serbs fought along side the Allies in WWI, and that it was the "Ustaše" of the Croats, that brought the first wave of modern genocidal actions to Yugoslavia...against the Serbs, who were again, fighting with the Allies in WWII.

Mladic and other Serb military are still alive to be prosecuted by the very people he and his Serb compatriots fought with in both world wars. May I suggest that some of you actually learn about the history of Yugoslavia, so that while you're busy with your infernal justice signaling, you actually have some idea of what happened and why? If you do, you may just find yourself understanding that, while the actions of the Serb military was brutal and murderous, and while 2 "wrongs" do not make a "right", there were many "wrongs" being perpetrated and that payback is a bitch.

https://www.ricksteves.com/watch-read-listen/read/understanding-yugoslavia
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There was no "payback". The innocent civilians Mladic and his cronies murdered had done nothing to anyone. Are you serious with this utter bullcrap right now?

Unfortunately for you, the people in the actual military don't agree with your assertation that it's "stupid" for war to have rules and laws. The "condemnation of Serbs being one sided"? What the actual ****! The Serbs were the ones committing the ****ing war crimes! How hard is this for you to understand?

World War One is utterly irrelevant to Serbian thugs murdering innocent civilians. A Croatian fascist group, whose leaders were all long dead by the 1990s, is irrelevant to the murder of innocent civilians, most of whom weren't Croats.

Yes, it's rather "rough" that Mladic and his cronies were prosecuted for committing crimes just as bad as many the Nazis committed in Yugoslavia.
 
DaveFagan said:
We sold the chemicals that, when mixed, make the deadly gas. You are suggesting that guns, knives and poison don't kill people.How are things in the alternate universe?.
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No we didn't.

We sold BIOLOGICAL precursors. The Kurds were hit by CHEMICAL weapons provided by China, France and Germany....

And where did I state guns, knives, etc don't kill people? Post number?


Where do you get your "history" from?
 
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