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Alabama governor plans to vote for Moore even though ‘I have no reason to disbelieve’ accusers

haymarket said:
The yearbook is evidence. And you have presented NOTHING in the way of actual evidence to support your wild and irresponsible claims about it.
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Actually I have. You just don't want to accept it. The signature was copied from a stamped signature on Allred's client's divorce papers. The giveaay is the "DA" initials that were included. Allred and her client obvisouly assumed that the intitials "DA" stood for "District Attorney". It did not.
 
ObamacareFail said:
Are you feigning ignorance? Or just making it up as you go along? If it comes to court proceedings, Allred would have no other choice then to give Moore's attorney access to the year book. At that point it would be considered evidence. if you know anything at all about the law, the legal team of both sides is entitled access to all evidence. Allred would be in contempt of court if she did not produce it.
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Listen.
Read what I wrote, with attention to the first phrase, "Outwith an investigation...". Next, read again, "...until a DA or Senate committee or someone official...".
Now, back off with the goddamn snark. "If it comes to court proceedings...". Isn't that nearly exactly what I said? Do you understand anything you read?
Jesus Christ. That's the second time in this exchange you've pulled that crap. I'm done with you. There's no way to carry on a dialogue with somebody who'll do that kind of bull****.
 
ObamacareFail said:
Actually I have. You just don't want to accept it. The signature was copied from a stamped signature on Allred's client's divorce papers. The giveaay is the "DA" initials that were included. Allred and her client obvisouly assumed that the intitials "DA" stood for "District Attorney". It did not.
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Present that evidence. All you have so far is wild speculation.

I can think of one really obvious reason why Moore wrote DA after his name - he thought it would open the Gates of Paradise for him by impressing young girls who did not know better or know the difference - but thats speculation just like you.
 
Grand Mal said:
Listen.
Read what I wrote, with attention to the first phrase, "Outwith an investigation...". Next, read again, "...until a DA or Senate committee or someone official...".
Now, back off with the goddamn snark. "If it comes to court proceedings...". Isn't that nearly exactly what I said? Do you understand anything you read?
Jesus Christ. That's the second time in this exchange you've pulled that crap. I'm done with you. There's no way to carry on a dialogue with somebody who'll do that kind of bull****.
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You are the one dishing out the bull crap. And you are the one not listening. Allred 's demand before releasing the year book is a Senate Select Committee Hearing or a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing. Moore is not subject to that as he is not yet a member of the Senate and cannot be prosecuted for any of the crimes alleged. Gloria Allred knows all of this. She is looking for a political verdict, not a legal verdict. On the otherhand, Moore can sue the incredibly stupid ambulance chaser and her client for libel and force them to release the year book to a neutral custodian for forensic testing. As Moore's attorney pointed out, the ink on that yearbook signature is either 40 years old or it's about a week old. Let's find out. As for you being done with me....who the hell cares? Anyone else who looks at the issue objectively is going to make the same points I did. Allred know's she stepped in it and is desperately attempting to kick it off her shoes by refusing to allow the yearbook to be tested.
 
haymarket said:
Present that evidence. All you have so far is wild speculation.

I can think of one really obvious reason why Moore wrote DA after his name - he thought it would open the Gates of Paradise for him by impressing young girls who did not know better or know the difference - but thats speculation just like you.
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What you are still refusing to accept is that the "DA" initials do not stand for District Attorney. They stand for the name of his court assistant "Delver Adams" who typically stamped his initials in court proceedings. And Moore was not a District Attorney at the time. He was an assistant district attorney.
 
ObamacareFail said:
What you are still refusing to accept is that the "DA" initials do not stand for District Attorney. They stand for the name of his court assistant "Delver Adams" who typically stamped his initials in court proceedings.
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So you allege --- but you offer no proof for this theory being fact.

And Moore was not a District Attorney at the time. He was an assistant district attorney
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I bet Moore knew the teeny boppers he was trying to get into their pants did not know the difference between as assistant DA and the DA.
 
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ObamacareFail said:
You are the one dishing out the bull crap. And you are the one not listening. Allred 's demand before releasing the year book is a Senate Select Committee Hearing or a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing. Moore is not subject to that as he is not yet a member of the Senate and cannot be prosecuted for any of the crimes alleged. Gloria Allred knows all of this. She is looking for a political verdict, not a legal verdict. On the otherhand, Moore can sue the incredibly stupid ambulance chaser and her client for libel and force them to release the year book to a neutral custodian for forensic testing. As Moore's attorney pointed out, the ink on that yearbook signature is either 40 years old or it's about a week old. Let's find out. As for you being done with me....who the hell cares? Anyone else who looks at the issue objectively is going to make the same points I did. Allred know's she stepped in it and is desperately attempting to kick it off her shoes by refusing to allow the yearbook to be tested.
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Moore will not sue.
 
haymarket said:
Of course not - that would put him in court and getting deposed and he will not risk such a thing.
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He probably knows, too, that if he wins the election he'll be in an ethics hearing shortly after.
I'm surprised he hasn't backed out yet. I'm really surprised the Republicans haven't nominated someone else. This is not going to end well for them.
 
Grand Mal said:
You need to read what you're replying to. What you describe here, third-party expert analysis, is exactly what Allred said they would do.
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She said she would do it ONLY IF Moore is investigated by the Senate.

Short of that they will not turn over the yearbook.

If there is no problem with the signature, you would think the accuser would want it examined as fast as possible to remove doubt about her claim.
 
haymarket said:
So you allege --- but you offer no proof for this theory being fact.



I bet Moore knew the teeny boppers he was trying to get into their pants did not know the difference between as assistant DA and the DA.
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Are there any accusations of Moore having sex with any of the accusers?
 
Mason66 said:
Moore is not requesting to control the evidence.

They are requesting a forensic examination by an independent person, but the accuser will not allow that until there is some kind of investigation that Moore is not subject to.
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To get something you sometimes have to give something the other side wants.
 
haymarket said:
So you allege --- but you offer no proof for this theory being fact.
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The proof is in the so-called year book signature. That's why ambulance chaser Gloria Allred is still withholding access to it.


I bet Moore knew the teeny boppers he was trying to get into their pants did not know the difference between as assistant DA and the DA.
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For the sake of slobbering partisan hatred, you are assuming that Moore signed the year book as accused. The most likely reality is that the accuser, perhaps with Allred's help copied the signature from her divorce paperwork.
 
Grand Mal said:
He probably knows, too, that if he wins the election he'll be in an ethics hearing shortly after.
I'm surprised he hasn't backed out yet. I'm really surprised the Republicans haven't nominated someone else. This is not going to end well for them.
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Funny. You libruls said the same thing in the lead up to the 2016 election.
 
ObamacareFail said:
The proof is in the so-called year book signature. That's why ambulance chaser Gloria Allred is still withholding access to it.




For the sake of slobbering partisan hatred, you are assuming that Moore signed the year book as accused. The most likely reality is that the accuser, perhaps with Allred's help copied the signature from her divorce paperwork.
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There is no evidence to the contrary that Moore did not sign that yearbook. And you have not presented any.
 
JANFU said:
Moore will not sue.
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If he does, he has to prove the allegations are false, right? If he could do that, he would have done so by now, my guess.
 
Grand Mal said:
If he does, he has to prove the allegations are false, right? If he could do that, he would have done so by now, my guess.
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Morning
Moores campaign has without any doubt hired investigators to dig into their lives, from financials, divorces, bankruptcies, interview friends, looking for dirt of any kind, to what Party they were affiliated with. And as I just mentioned in another thread on this, all they came up with was disputing a year book signature.
 
ObamacareFail said:
The proof is in the so-called year book signature. That's why ambulance chaser Gloria Allred is still withholding access to it.




For the sake of slobbering partisan hatred, you are assuming that Moore signed the year book as accused. The most likely reality is that the accuser, perhaps with Allred's help copied the signature from her divorce paperwork.
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Just for focus, the signature only means Moore lied. It's the sexual assault he's been accused of, not lying.
And look at the letters 'D,A' on the two documents and see if one is a copy of the other.
 
haymarket said:
There is no evidence to the contrary that Moore did not sign that yearbook. And you have not presented any.
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There is.....however Gloria Allredfaced is withholding it.
 
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