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The judicial nominee who’s never tried a case is married to one of President Trump’s lawyers

ecofarm said:
Female pejoratives are sexist. One can't just be "not to me!"

What's next, black pejoratives are not racist?
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How the hell do you equate fixing a mean cup of coffee in this day and age with females? Seriously...its like you guys are stuck in the 60s.
 
VanceMack said:
How the hell do you equate fixing a mean cup of coffee in this day and age with females? Seriously...its like you guys are stuck in the 60s.
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That's not the post to which I refer. Do you know what 'pejorative' means?
 
RAMOSS said:
Let's say.. he got an unanimous 'not qualified' by the lawyers who evaluate people for the position, and he lied on his forms, because he didn't put in a conflict of interest of his wife being the president's lawyer. What to respond to those points, rather than cherry picking the data?
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Hey, it's easy to forget your wife is a high-powered lawyer in the Trump White House. :lamo
 
ecofarm said:
That's not the post to which I refer. Do you know what 'pejorative' means?
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Yes. Do you know what conversation you are following that you are trying to inject both sexism and racism in?
 
VanceMack said:
Yes. Do you know what conversation you are following that you are trying to inject both sexism and racism in?
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I saw your comments, I saw his. He's right.
 
ecofarm said:
I saw your comments, I saw his. He's right.
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So you followed a conversation, agreed with the stupid insertion of sexism into the discussion, and then figured....**** it....let me give it a go. Shocked...not shocked.


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VanceMack said:
So you followed a conversation, agreed with the stupid insertion of sexism into the discussion, and then figured....**** it....let me give it a go. Shocked...not shocked.


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You injected sexism into the discussion. You can't blame others for calling you on it.
 
ecofarm said:
You injected sexism into the discussion. You can't blame others for calling you on it.
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You see sexism and racism in toast and tea leaves.


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VanceMack said:
You see sexism and racism in toast and tea leaves.


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You use that excuse a lot. I've never needed to.
 
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Since the discussion has moved so far off topic, it would be only one further step to mention that a Trump lawyer referred to George Papadopoulos as the "coffee guy."

Not that I believe a member of Tump's foreign policy advisory board was brought along simply to get the coffee. Just noticing that whenever someone wants to make light of another's possible influence or ability, they may be given the "coffee person" label.
 
Rogue Valley said:
The judicial nominee who’s never tried a case is married to one of President Trump’s lawyers



Short story ... A Trump swamp nomination.


Although he lacks the requisite judicial experience, Talley is a Ghostbuster...

Related: Before He Was Tapped By Donald Trump, Controversial Judicial Nominee Brett J. Talley Investigated Paranormal Activity
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Sad thing is, he's about ten times as qualified to be a judge in Alabama as Roy Moore, the twice-Chief Justice of the Alabama Supreme Court.
 
Rogue Valley said:
The judicial nominee who’s never tried a case is married to one of President Trump’s lawyers



Short story ... A Trump swamp nomination.


Although he lacks the requisite judicial experience, Talley is a Ghostbuster...

Related: Before He Was Tapped By Donald Trump, Controversial Judicial Nominee Brett J. Talley Investigated Paranormal Activity
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this is a district judgeship with three levels of review over it

what trial experience did Elena Kagan have before being elevated to the Supreme Court?

I have tried a lot of cases in front of over dozen federal judges. a couple of them were academics appointed to the bench. I didn't see any noticeable difference in how they ran trials. Guido Calebresi was one of the top professors, and I believe Dean, of the Yale Law school before he was put on the bench.
 
MTAtech said:
The American Bar Association gave Talley a unanimous "not qualified" rating. Nevertheless, the Senate Judiciary Committee voted to move him to full vote, on party lines. Maybe a different party should be in charge.

Similar to how Trump awarded ambassadorships, based upon who you know, not what you know, there seems to be the same cronyism selected judges.

Aren't Trump voters glad that they voted for the guy that railed against cronyism and draining the swamp?
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every administration does this sort of crap.
 
MTAtech said:
It certainly wasn't true during the Obama Administration.

I was hoping that we wouldn't be living in Gilbert and Sullivan' HMS Pinafore...

"I grew so rich that I was sent
By a pocket borough into Parliament
I always voted at my party's call
And I never thought of thinking for myself at all
I thought so little, they rewarded me
By making me the Ruler of the Queen's Navy..."
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OMG that is hilarious.
 
Mr Person said:
It's not like he campaigned on draining the swamp and, you know, not doing the slimey things other politicians do.

/snort




People who haven't tried cases should not become judges, period. They won't know what they're doing and that will affect people's rights, though I suppose the modern America mantra is "as long as it's happening to someone else." So whatever. **** it all.
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you opposed Kagan for the supreme court?
 
Napoleon said:
Kagan clerked for Thurgood Marshall, worked for a law firm, is an accomplished published legal scholar, and was Dean of Havard Law School.
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in other words, she never ever tried a case.
 
JMR said:
Hi all.

This is my first post to a controversial topic, though I have to say upfront that it is confounding how this appointment is controversial.

Trump had a pool of more than 1,300,000 American lawyers to choose from, and this is the choice?? An unprecedented Unqualified rating and a marriage to a White House lawyer? The Constitution charges the US Senate with the duty to provide Advice and Consent on judicial appointments. ANY Senator taking that duty seriously would have to say "Pick someone else, sir"

This is not about whether Obama did it. Doesn't matter if George Washington did it. It's WRONG and the Senators should step up and do their job.
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Do you know how many DOJ attorneys had better credentials than Loretta Lynch? Look, neither side appoints the very best for the most part though the Credentials of

Roberts, Alito, Sotomayor and Gorsuch were among the very best with liberal appellate attorneys I knew saying Roberts was the best possible choice for the USSC and Alito was among the very best
 
MTAtech said:
I did. You make equivalence where none exists. While Mr. Talley is three years out of law school, (now Judge) Nancy D. Freudenthal had a long legal career. While Mr. Talley received an "unqualified" rating from the ABA, Ms. Freudenthal received a "Majority Well Qualified, Minority Qualified" rating.
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What year did Talley graduate from Harvard Law?
 
MTAtech said:
Nancy D. Freudenthal had a long legal career. While Mr. Talley received an "unqualified" rating from the ABA, Ms. Freudenthal received a "Majority Well Qualified, Minority Qualified" rating.
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Oh no you don't! How dare you bring facts and truth to a conversation related to Donald Trump! Fake Facts! Alternate Facts! Fake News! SAD! ***rabble rabble rabble***

THE ABA IS OUT TO GET PRESIDENT TRUMP!!! SAD!!!!

...you know it's coming lol...
 
Rogue Valley said:
Well Maggie ... Brett Talley has no judicial bench experience whatsoever (not even a community court in Podunk 'Bama to rule on traffic tickets, zoning violations etc.) and was rated "not qualified" by the American Bar Assn.

So then, in this version of Trump-world, either chasing ghosts and goblins qualifies one for a lifetime federal judgeship, or cronyism (married to a Trump WH lawyer) is the paramount qualifier here.

Either way, it's a piss-poor nomination.

btw: Brett Talley replaces the original "well qualified" African-American nominee.

And if anyone has a problem with the Daily Beast...

Business Insider | Controversial Trump judicial nominee used to be a ghost hunter and has a cult following for his horror novels
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Why are you concerned about this nomination at all?

If what you say is true and the man is not qualified, then the Senate will vote him down.

Why even post a thread about a non event?
 
Mason66 said:
Why are you concerned about this nomination at all?

If what you say is true and the man is not qualified, then the Senate will vote him down.

Why even post a thread about a non event?
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Because it's a political debate forum? What is the minimum justification for discussing something on this forum in your opinion? Why did you bother responding to this thread if you don't feel it's worth discussing?
 
Lerxst said:
Because it's a political debate forum? What is the minimum justification for discussing something on this forum in your opinion? Why did you bother responding to this thread if you don't feel it's worth discussing?
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I am sorry you missed my point.

Better luck next time.
 
VanceMack said:
You are the one that took it for a sexist remark...which is a pretty good indicator of where your head is. Well...another indicator.
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Of course I did because you were the one who attempted to disparage Kagan because she was a female "clerk", i.e., make a good cup of coffee indeed.

Your comment was the same as equating welfare exclusively to Blacks. Of course, you won't admit it but anyone reading that post knows exactly what you meant.
 
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