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New accuser steps forward in Roy Moore case

trblmkr said:
You're on a roll today girl.
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countryboy said:
Testify under oath? In what proceeding? Statute of limitations would've long since expired for this alleged incident. :roll:
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Who the hell knows what proceedings will be in store?

However:

Different states have different statute limitations. In Alabama, sexual misconduct with someone under 16, there "are no statute of limitations".

https://victimsofcrime.org/docs/DNA...sault-check-chart---final---copy.pdf?sfvrsn=2

I don't have a clue about what evidence would be considered as enough to prosecute in this matter, but if it exists, then Due Process will be employed. If the allegations by Nelson wind up being tried in a court of law - and Ms Nelson was "under 16" - and her allegations are found to be true, "beyond a reasonable doubt" in a court of law, then Moore will be convicted.

Too many unknowns at this point to know where these allegations will lead (true or false).
 
countryboy said:
Testify under oath? In what proceeding? Statute of limitations would've long since expired for this alleged incident. :roll:
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Hack post exposed . . .
this is what happens when you make retarded knee jerk claims without knowing whats going on. LMAO
 
Rogue Valley said:
National Republican Senatorial Committee Chairman Sen. Cory Gardner, R-Colo., has issued a statement:
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The Senate certainly does suck enough now that that they dont have the good sense to understand that they should not claim the right to overrule the voters.

They are so bad now that they might actually do it.
 
poweRob said:
Yeah but did he ask her mom for permission first? If so, then by Roy Moore logic, she had it comin'.
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LMAO

according to his own words he always asked before :lamo
 
Fletch said:
Dude, he's done. He might have survived a single allegation like this, but he wont survive two. I'm no fan of Gloria Allred either, but Moore is toast. Defending him at this point only sullies your reputation
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I'm not defending him, and I have no doubt he's done. I also believe in the presumption of innocence. I care about the truth, not some perception of my "reputation" on a political forum full of partisan hacks. I'm disappointed in you, I thought you were better than this.
 
SMTA said:
Yet another supporter of child molestation steps forward.
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Nice try, wrong again. At least you're consistent. Only in liberal lala land is a dismissal of Gloria Allred synonymous with support of child molestation. What an abhorrent and utterly moronic thing to say.
 
countryboy said:
I'm not defending him, and I have no doubt he's done. I also believe in the presumption of innocence. I care about the truth, not some perception of my "reputation" on a political forum full of partisan hacks. I'm disappointed in you, I thought you were better than this.
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He could have survived politically had the scandal stopped with a single, unsupported, 40 year old accusation. Now there are two. If he is innocent, it is horrible. If he is guilty it is worse. He needs to step down.
 
Mach said:
I think this is an important point on a lot of legal issues.

When we have this difference between how the wealthy get away with these things, and how the average person is treated, obviously it's not justice. But aside from the obvious, it is a drag on our entire culture. This goes for many issues, not just sex crimes.

What happens is that the wealthy and powerful, who are typically also politically powerful through donations, connections, or are politicians themselves, have little to no incentive to ensure laws are fair and reasonable, because for them none of it matters anyway? So we may have laws that are too tightly wound for the average person, but there will be less wealthy/powerful pressure brought to bear on it because they just pay it all off behind the scenes anyway with high dollar attorneys ensuring it's air tight and non-public. They are essential to helping shape our system, but if they are constantly making up their own rules, it's a problem for everyone else.

We see that in drug laws too, the ones that affect the lower income folks, insanely harsh. Who cares? The wealthy get off of most, and those that don't, they often have much reduced charges for the drugs they are caught with. So the wealthy person getting unfair treatment isn't even the biggest harm to the nation, it's that they have little to no incentive to help correct/shape those laws in general.

In any case, I think any time we allow dramatic differences in our creation, enforcement, or judgement of laws, we risk that sort of imbalance.
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In corporate crime as well. No business should be able to hush up their doings with money. It should be public matter just like everyone else's crimes.
 
I did say there will be more, there always is !! The man needs to drop out now.
 
poweRob said:
Then also there's the aspect that these women came out now because of his actions, they don't want him making laws about their or anyone else's lives.
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I like to think the system works to properly vet our leaders; to be certain people of questionable moral character either chose not to run or get taken out at the knees when they do. I hope that is what is going on here....

I was certain that would have happened with Trump*, but the American people let me down on that one. I am still hoping that what Mueller finds will make that right (one way or another, including clearing Trump, but I really doubt he gets "cleared")
 
Fletch said:
He could have survived politically had the scandal stopped with a single, unsupported, 40 year old accusation. Now there are two. If he is innocent, it is horrible. If he is guilty it is worse. He needs to step down.
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Actually I think there are now four. Not necessarily all criminal but a pattern of younger women at the time that is supported by several witnesses. The previous I believe were 14, 17 and 18 when he was in his 30's then this new one that was 15 at the time.
 
TheGoverness said:
You're welcome. :)
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Hey, your location reminds me of a joke. When someone goes to heaven, St. Peter says "We have a simple test to see if you qualify for Heaven. Spell God"...... Except for Aggies. For them, St. Peter says "We have a simple test to see if you qualify for Heaven. Spell Nacogdoches".
 
poweRob said:
Actually I think there are now four. Not necessarily all criminal but a pattern of younger women at the time that is supported by several witnesses. The previous I believe were 14, 17 and 18 when he was in his 30's then this new one that was 15 at the time.
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Nope. It's now five.

Sing the Roy Moore theme song with me..... If she's old enough to pee, she's old enough for me. :mrgreen:
 
countryboy said:
I'm not defending him, and I have no doubt he's done. I also believe in the presumption of innocence. I care about the truth, not some perception of my "reputation" on a political forum full of partisan hacks. I'm disappointed in you, I thought you were better than this.
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Being disappointed that someone doesn't share your scumbag opinion is hilarious.
 
Called it

I am a little surprised it took this long for another accuser to come forward. I expect there will be a few more, too.
 
Republicans must have a bit of concern that this is looking like 2010 again. All we need is for Moore to proclaim he is not a witch!
 
TheGoverness said:
Explain how it doesn't 'make sense'.
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A "Please" would be nice....

If he had already gone that far then there was no reason to give up, the locked car bit is irrelevant and seems intended to darken the story, and the words ""You're just a child, I'm the district attorney if you tell anyone about this no one will ever believe you." are not words that abusers actually say, that is part of the myth that feminists spin.....Abusers after they prove how powerful they are by way of the abuse never have a need to remind the victim immediately after, he would have said something to the effect "Make sure you keep your mouth shut" if he felt the need to say anything at all.
 
Removable Mind said:
Who the hell knows what proceedings will be in store?

However:

Different states have different statute limitations. In Alabama, sexual misconduct with someone under 16, there "are no statute of limitations".

https://victimsofcrime.org/docs/DNA...sault-check-chart---final---copy.pdf?sfvrsn=2

I don't have a clue about what evidence would be considered as enough to prosecute in this matter, but if it exists, then Due Process will be employed. If the allegations by Nelson wind up being tried in a court of law - and Ms Nelson was "under 16" - and her allegations are found to be true, "beyond a reasonable doubt" in a court of law, then Moore will be convicted.

Too many unknowns at this point to know where these allegations will lead (true or false).
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Yes there are too many unknowns. I remain EXTREMELY skeptical due to the timing, and nothing ever surfacing in over four decades, until NOW. Whatever happened to presumption of innocence? I actually heard someone on the MSM say "if he can prove his innocence". WTF? The problem is, how do you prove anything either way after so much time?
 
Fletch said:
He could have survived politically had the scandal stopped with a single, unsupported, 40 year old accusation. Now there are two. If he is innocent, it is horrible. If he is guilty it is worse. He needs to step down.
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Why? If he is innocent, why does he need to step down?
 
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