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Bangladeshi Village Burned Down After 'Prophet Mohammed Insulted' in Resident's Facebook Post[W:83]

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sanman said:
would it have been better if someone had?
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30 houses get burned down and no one died. That is remarkable whether among the people doing the burning or among the people who got burned out. Just seems strange to me and makes me a little suspicious about the facts of the story.

I'm not rooting for anyone to die, but you can envision either the attackers getting carried away or the people defending their property leading to some unfortunate getting killed.
 
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Sweden said:
You could buy the book "Sharpen Up Those Reading Skills!" ..... um .... no .... that might not work for you.
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Since the story was updated 23 minutes ago, you could also assume that it wasn't in the original story when I read it nearly 1-1/2 hours ago.
 
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Tigerace117 said:
I know right? Telling the truth is so unpleasant to some people on the right these days that they just can't take it seriously.
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Lib definition of "teh truth"=" whatever the **** we say it is, regardless of any actual truthful content". :roll:
 
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Tigerace117 said:
Oh really? Do we need to go over the history of violent mobs being started by rumors? Because I hate to break it to you, it's something which has been very common, especially historically.

Are you ****ing serious right now? So your excuse for the murder of innocent people is "they aren't innocent, they just haven't been whipped into a violent mob yet"? Do you even remotely comprehend how deeply ****ed up that way of thinking is?

So you'd be cool with a death squad rolling into your neighborhood, pulling people out of their houses and shot them in the stret, right? After all, they haven't done anything, but they might, under some set of circumstances, at some point, so might as just kill them now...... right?

God, the anti Muslim rhetoric is starting to sound like something out of the 1930s.
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I have NO IDEA what you think you're responding to (and clearly neither do you). Do you even read my posts before whipping yourself into a lather?????
 
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Sweden said:
Fake post! I am on the right and I have lots of sympathy for the Rohygniya Muslims.
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Then you're very much in the minority. For example:

U.S. Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell said on Tuesday he would not support a resolution targeting Myanmar leader Aung San Suu Kyi over the treatment of the country’s Rohingya Muslims, and said Washington should not be “lecturing” her.
 
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AliHajiSheik said:
30 houses get burned down and no one died. That is remarkable whether among the people doing the burning or among the people who got burned out. Just seems strange to me and makes me a little suspicious about the facts of the story.

I'm not rooting for anyone to die, but you can envision either the attackers getting carried away or the people defending their property leading to some unfortunate getting killed.
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The desire to deny is strong in this one.
 
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apdst said:
Ok, one poster? Not "the Right" as Glen claimed?
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Does Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell qualify as a reference for what "the Right" says?

U.S. Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell said on Tuesday he would not support a resolution targeting Myanmar leader Aung San Suu Kyi over the treatment of the country’s Rohingya Muslims, and said Washington should not be “lecturing” her.
 
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Glen Contrarian said:
Does Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell qualify as a reference for what "the Right" says?

U.S. Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell said on Tuesday he would not support a resolution targeting Myanmar leader Aung San Suu Kyi over the treatment of the country’s Rohingya Muslims, and said Washington should not be “lecturing” her.
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Does Bill Clinton speak for the "Left"? Is he a rapist?
 
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countryboy said:
Lib definition of "teh truth"=" whatever the **** we say it is, regardless of any actual truthful content". :roll:
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Conservative definition of the truth: what they want it to be, and oh "liberals are literally Satan"
 
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Glen Contrarian said:
Of course no one on the Right has the least sympathy for the hundreds of thousands of Rohygniya Muslims next door in Myanmar being "ethnically cleansed".

In other words, there's LOTS of mud to be thrown around.
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What would you like to see done there? I mean...I read the article cited in that thread which stated that a militant group attacked and killed people (not the first time) and the Burmese officials have retaliated by showing them the door. Tough circumstances. SO...what would you like to do? Are you ready to go arm up and fight on their behalf? Go get em!!! And hey...since you have pretty much ignored the ISIS assault on both their Muslim and Christian victims for YEARS....its interesting that you have finally found your voice. Now. Suddenly.

So what would you like to do to resolve the problem?
 
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stevecanuck said:
The desire to deny is strong in this one.
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What is being denied? Speak up, I'm listening.
 
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stevecanuck said:
Care to discuss the thread topic? What is your take on the fact that a spontaneously created mob of Muslims can burn down an entire village based on a rumor? Where does that fit into the left's "vast majority of Muslims are peaceful" rhetoric? This is a perfect example showing that a previous lack of violence does NOT mean that people are peaceful. It just shows they haven't been sufficiently provoked into becoming a vicious mob yet.
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My take - the people in Bangladesh are among the poorest in this world. The majority of the Bangladeshi population lives in remote areas that do not have access to formal education systems, health clinics or roads. Is it surprising, therefore, that among that population there exists a segment of radicalized, highly religious individuals?

... no. Not surprising at all. Religiosity and fundamentalism have a strong, direct correlation with lack of education and economic prosperity in both highly-developed countries as well as developing countries. That's universal, regardless of the majority religion of whichever country.

However couple that with the dogmatic nature of the Abrahamic religions and you get angry mobs burning down homes and killing people in the name of Muhammad, Jesus, etc.
 
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AliHajiSheik said:
What is being denied? Speak up, I'm listening.
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The fact that you "doubt the facts" just because a death count didn't match up to your expectations. Do you doubt that a Muslim mob burned a Hindu village or not? If you do, with that as your only reason, then you are simply denying with a legitimate reason.
 
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brothern said:
My take - the people in Bangladesh are among the poorest in this world. The majority of the Bangladeshi population lives in remote areas that do not have access to formal education systems, health clinics or roads. Is it surprising, therefore, that among that population there exists a segment of radicalized, highly religious individuals?

... no. Not surprising at all. Religiosity and fundamentalism have a strong, direct correlation with lack of education and economic prosperity in both highly-developed countries as well as developing countries. That's universal, regardless of the majority religion of whichever country.

However couple that with the dogmatic nature of the Abrahamic religions and you get angry mobs burning down homes and killing people in the name of Muhammad, Jesus, etc.
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You had a good assessment going until the last sentence. Christianity has finally returned (mostly, it's still a work in progress) to the peacefulness ascribed to the mythical character called Jesus, whereas Muslims are increasingly returning to the violence and intolerance taught and practiced by Mohamed.
 
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stevecanuck said:
The fact that you "doubt the facts" just because a death count didn't match up to your expectations. Do you doubt that a Muslim mob burned a Hindu village or not? If you do, with that as your only reason, then you are simply denying with a legitimate reason.
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The fact that the story was updated to include 1 dead and I believe 5 injured makes more sense--when I responded it contained no such information. Also, the initial story was quite brief, so I think it reasonable when a story seems to be missing information for me to be (my actual quote) "a little suspicious about the facts of the story".
 
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Glen Contrarian said:
Then you're very much in the minority. For example:

U.S. Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell said on Tuesday he would not support a resolution targeting Myanmar leader Aung San Suu Kyi over the treatment of the country’s Rohingya Muslims, and said Washington should not be “lecturing” her.
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Oh well, a little progress. We have shifted from 'NO ONE on the right' to 'A MINORITY .. '
 
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AliHajiSheik said:
The fact that the story was updated to include 1 dead and I believe 5 injured makes more sense--when I responded it contained no such information. Also, the initial story was quite brief, so I think it reasonable when a story seems to be missing information for me to be (my actual quote) "a little suspicious about the facts of the story".
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Ok, No problem. Are you at all surprised that a mob of Muslims would do such a thing? Does it fit the "peaceful vast majority" narrative?
 
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stevecanuck said:
Ok, No problem. Are you at all surprised that a mob of Muslims would do such a thing? Does it fit the "peaceful vast majority" narrative?
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I was surprised that any mob that size would cause no deaths or injuries.
 
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brothern said:
My take - the people in Bangladesh are among the poorest in this world. The majority of the Bangladeshi population lives in remote areas that do not have access to formal education systems, health clinics or roads. Is it surprising, therefore, that among that population there exists a segment of radicalized, highly religious individuals?

... no. Not surprising at all. Religiosity and fundamentalism have a strong, direct correlation with lack of education and economic prosperity in both highly-developed countries as well as developing countries. That's universal, regardless of the majority religion of whichever country.

However couple that with the dogmatic nature of the Abrahamic religions and you get angry mobs burning down homes and killing people in the name of Muhammad, Jesus, etc.
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It seems somebody in that village did have the internet, a computer and a Facebook account, allegedly.
 
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AliHajiSheik said:
I was surprised that any mob that size would cause no deaths or injuries.
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Opps, you accidentally failed to even come close to addressing the question, so in order to protect your credibility, I'm going to repeat it so you don't inadvertently embarrass yourself again: Are you at all surprised that a mob of Muslims would do such a thing? Does it fit the "peaceful vast majority" narrative? You're welcome.
 
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Mason66 said:
It seems somebody in that village did have the internet, a computer and a Facebook account, allegedly.
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It's mobile phone penetration. Used phones are collected from Western countries, shipped and then sold in developing nations.

It works because (1) the second-hand market is massive and thus used phones are ridiculously cheap, and (2) mobile phones don't need the continuous power source that is only available when there's a working electric infrastructure. Therefore while most consumer electronics remain both unattainable and unusable in these areas, phones do not have that limitation.


Edit: Btw, I also find it as bizarre as you do. It's weird that an area doesn't have roads or that everyone's living in a dirt floor house, but at the same time everyone owns a cellphone. However it's not entirely surprising when you actually think about the massive benefits a phone offers and how paramount it'd be to own one.
 
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brothern said:
It's mobile phone penetration. Used phones are collected from Western countries, shipped and then sold in developing nations.

It works because (1) the second-hand market is massive and thus used phones are ridiculously cheap, and (2) mobile phones don't need the continuous power source that is only available when there's a working electric infrastructure. Therefore while most consumer electronics remain both unattainable and unusable in these areas, phones do not have that limitation.
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It's an example of 'technological leapfrog' in world development. In Kenya, for example, land lines never got beyond the capital and largest towns; everyone now has cell phones and internet access is virtually nation-wide. When I lived in a rural village for two years, I was still able to get online and even posted here occasionally using the "cell tower" at the village market.

The same is happening with computers, skipping desktops for the most part and going directly to laptops. Access to electricity is a bigger obstacle with laptops, but at least they have a battery for intermittent access to electricity.
 
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stevecanuck said:
Opps, you accidentally failed to even come close to addressing the question, so in order to protect your credibility, I'm going to repeat it so you don't inadvertently embarrass yourself again: Are you at all surprised that a mob of Muslims would do such a thing? Does it fit the "peaceful vast majority" narrative? You're welcome.
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My credibility is fine, thank you. I expressed what I intended to say. You asked a question, so I'll answer it. Yes, I'm surprised. I've never heard of a mob of 20k people do anything like this over something so stupid.
 
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stevecanuck said:
You had a good assessment going until the last sentence. Christianity has finally returned (mostly, it's still a work in progress) to the peacefulness ascribed to the mythical character called Jesus, whereas Muslims are increasingly returning to the violence and intolerance taught and practiced by Mohamed.
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Returning? The Islamic world has never been peaceful. Not for the reason of Islam being the dominant religion, but for the fact that most of the territory that has Muslim majority populations meets one of the following conditions:

(1) Is oil or resource rich (proxy resource wars)
(2) Is a former colony of a European power (wars over sovereignty)
(3) Had a despotic ruler instilled by someone other than the local population to maintain control over resources or to act in the interest of said European power
 
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AliHajiSheik said:
My credibility is fine, thank you. I expressed what I intended to say. You asked a question, so I'll answer it. Yes, I'm surprised. I've never heard of a mob of 20k people do anything like this over something so stupid.
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This sort of thing (usually on a much smaller scale, and therefore without the attendant press) happens in Muslim majority countries much more frequently than you might think. In Egypt, Coptic Christians are frequently killed by Muslims mobs over trivial matters (I heard about several cases when I lived there). In Pakistan Christians who are suspected of insulting Islam are often killed by mobs or prison guards before the government can give them sentences up to and including death. There are currently several Christians in Pakistani jails either on death row or serving life sentences for insulting Islam. This is a democratically elected government passing these sentences, so we get to assume that a majority of the electorate supports such punishments. The "vast majority" gets smaller and smaller the more you look into it.
 
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