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Ex-intelligence chiefs blast Trump over Russia comments

Mycroft said:
Brennan and Clapper went way beyond just saying Trump was being disloyal. They extended that to Trump being played by Putin, Trump being naive, etc. In other words, they "upped the language". They went into hyperbole mode. They made connections that weren't warranted...kind of like you did with your "In other words..." twist of illogic.

Trump made a very clear statement that was immediately spun and twisted by the Mainstream Media, their talking potato heads (in this case, Clapper and Brennan) and, of course, their useful idiots who unthinkingly regurgitate the blather in forums such as this one.
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You're confused.

1. Brennan and Clapper didn't say Trump was disloyal. They said he was being "played", as he obviously was in buying into Putin's story. This could be disloyalty if Trump was a knowing "playee" but more probably it is gullibility.

2. The logic is straight, not twisted. If Putin believes the Russians didn't interfere, as Trump argues, it obviously follows that Putin didn't order the interference, didn't even know about the interference when it was happening and hasn't found out about it since.
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
So if I talk to an iranian, and the federalis fail to minimize my side of the call, and use that to find criminal activity on my part that's not a violation of my rights under the constitution? Ends justify the means?
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If I understand it correctly (and I could be mistaken), if an Iranian government or military official talks to you on the phone and that call is collected, then the information (if significant) can be reported without your name or anything that would directly identify you. IF you were discussing something criminal on your part, then the FBI can be given the information and they can get a warrant for specific surveillance of you. If a senior intel or other government person needed to know who you were to understand the conversation, then that can be unminimized specifically for that person.
 
Aristaeus said:
Thank you for proving my point. Dismiss the Russian links as bogus, imply he hasn't done anything bad. Like I said, dismiss and defend.
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Cry wolf too many times and its going to bite you in the ass.Trump will actually do something and no one will believe it.
 
CletusWilbury said:
That is not the agency's primary motivation, but it is for Trump.
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If you honestly believe that then I have some ocean front property in Arizona to sell to you.
 
Hmmmm...FBI, CIA, NSA, MSM, NATO. What do they all have in common? "THEY'RE LIAR WHO ARE OUT TO GET POOR PRESIDENT TRUMP!"

Can't wait for him to commission a "Loose Change" type of video to prove they're all conspiring against him.

Ha!
 
jamesrage said:
Cry wolf too many times and its going to bite you in the ass.Trump will actually do something and no one will believe it.
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President Trump is getting cucked by Putin and he's claiming to enjoy it. Literally none of this is good for our country, i have no way of understanding how you could delude yourself into believing otherwise.

jamesrage said:
If you honestly believe that then I have some ocean front property in Arizona to sell to you.
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Ironic.
 
Absentglare said:
President Trump is getting cucked by Putin and he's claiming to enjoy it. Literally none of this is good for our country, i have no way of understanding how you could delude yourself into believing otherwise.

Ironic.
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The thing is losers of every election make up bull**** conspiracies about the president.When Obama was president losers made up claims that he was born in Kenya, had a fake birth certificate, and a secrete Muslim. When Bush was president losers made up claims that he stole the election twice, lied for war, went AWOL, masterminded 911, claimed he was a dictator, a racist, wanted to name a sewage plant after him and so on.Now that Trump is president losers are making up Russia Trump colluding and election interfering, gerrymandering and any other pathetic excuse they can come up with to explain why they lost other than the fact they picked a lousier candidate.
 
jamesrage said:
The thing is losers of every election make up bull**** conspiracies about the president.When Obama was president losers made up claims that he was born in Kenya, had a fake birth certificate, and a secrete Muslim. When Bush was president losers made up claims that he stole the election twice, lied for war, went AWOL, masterminded 911, claimed he was a dictator, a racist, wanted to name a sewage plant after him and so on.Now that Trump is president losers are making up Russia Trump colluding and election interfering, gerrymandering and any other pathetic excuse they can come up with to explain why they lost other than the fact they picked a lousier candidate.
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We already know you guys made up bull**** conspiracies about the Clintons for decades. That has no relevance here where we have literally hundreds of proven lies uttered by President Trump and his associates.
 
SenorXm/Sirius said:
Trump saying the blind loyalty of his supporters to him and them being ignorant to Trump's faults and shortcomings is a HUGE insult to his supporters, he is saying the are like children. But his supporters don't see the insult.
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The snake oil salesman values his customer.... its good business.
 
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