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Roy Moore trails in Senate poll after accusations of contact with teenagers

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Roy Moore trails in Senate poll after accusations of contact with teenagers

By Ros Krasny
November 12, 2017

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GOP Alabama Senate candidate Roy Moore, accused of molesting teenage girls when he was 32

Republican Roy Moore trails his Democratic opponent for the first time in polling for the Alabama Senate race, days after accusations surfaced that he had sexual contact with a 14-year-old girl almost four decades ago. Moore faces Democrat Doug Jones, 63, a former U.S. attorney, in a special election on Dec. 12 to fill the Senate seat vacated by Jeff Sessions, now the U.S. attorney general. Alabama is typically considered a safe Republican seat. The former judge has denied the allegations about the girl and about having pursued dates with three other teenagers when he was in his 30s. The incidents were first reported by the Washington Post.

Polling by Louisiana-based JMC accurately forecast voting patterns in the earlier round of voting in Alabama, where Moore captured the Republican nomination over Luther Strange, who had been appointed to fill the seat on an interim basis. Many Republican lawmakers had already distanced themselves from Moore, who was twice removed as chief justice of the Alabama Supreme Court for defying federal court rulings. Two conservative Republican Senators, Mike Lee of Utah and Steve Daines of Montana, pulled their endorsements late Friday. On Saturday, Sen. Bob Corker of Tennessee tweeted that, “I’m sorry, but even before these reports surfaced, Roy Moore’s nomination was a bridge too far.”
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Moore is now tied with Jones among male voters and trailing by 6 percentage points among women voters. The special Alabama Senatorial election is still a month away.

The GOP is in a pickle. They don't want to be publicly associated with Moore, yet they can't afford to lose a red-state GOP Senate seat.

Much will depend on Alabama's religious evangelicals. Can they stomach seating an accused child molester in order to gain an anti-abortion/anti-LGBT vote in the Senate?

Related: A poll shows Roy Moore losing his lead in Alabama's senate race following allegations of sexual misconduct
 
Rogue Valley said:
Roy Moore trails in Senate poll after accusations of contact with teenagers



Moore is now tied with Jones among male voters and trailing by 6 percentage points among women voters. The special Alabama Senatorial election is still a month away.

The GOP is in a pickle. They don't want to be publicly associated with Moore, yet they can't afford to lose a red-state GOP Senate seat.

Much will depend on Alabama's religious evangelicals. Can they stomach seating an accused child molester in order to gain an anti-abortion/anti-LGBT vote in the Senate?

Related: A poll shows Roy Moore losing his lead in Alabama's senate race following allegations of sexual misconduct
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If Doug Jones wins, I think it would be the upset of the year.
 
Welp, nice to know that the average voter in Alabama is slightly more reasonable than some of the posters here. That said, it will probably come down to turnout.
 
exoplanet said:
Welp, nice to know that the average voter in Alabama is slightly more reasonable than some of the posters here. That said, it will probably come down to turnout.
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Betting odds are moving strongly back in favor of Moore. If that's a reflection of reality in any way, then literally not one independent or Democrat can afford to stay home on December 12.
 
Rogue Valley said:
Roy Moore trails in Senate poll after accusations of contact with teenagers



Moore is now tied with Jones among male voters and trailing by 6 percentage points among women voters. The special Alabama Senatorial election is still a month away.

The GOP is in a pickle. They don't want to be publicly associated with Moore, yet they can't afford to lose a red-state GOP Senate seat.

Much will depend on Alabama's religious evangelicals. Can they stomach seating an accused child molester in order to gain an anti-abortion/anti-LGBT vote in the Senate?

Related: A poll shows Roy Moore losing his lead in Alabama's senate race following allegations of sexual misconduct
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I'm sure the deplorables on the left will celebrate it as some kind of moral victory if they succeed in defeating him with their unfounded smear campaign.

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trouble13 said:
I'm sure the deplorables on the left will celebrate it as some kind of moral victory if they succeed in defeating him with their unfounded smear campaign.

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If a child molester is politically destroyed then that would be a moral victory for everybody. And Alabama, in spite of itself, will have redeemed some of its public image.
 
Rogue Valley said:
Roy Moore trails in Senate poll after accusations of contact with teenagers



Moore is now tied with Jones among male voters and trailing by 6 percentage points among women voters. The special Alabama Senatorial election is still a month away.

The GOP is in a pickle. They don't want to be publicly associated with Moore, yet they can't afford to lose a red-state GOP Senate seat.

Much will depend on Alabama's religious evangelicals. Can they stomach seating an accused child molester in order to gain an anti-abortion/anti-LGBT vote in the Senate?

Related: A poll shows Roy Moore losing his lead in Alabama's senate race following allegations of sexual misconduct
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Second point I think worth mentioning.

If it's true and they do stomach it as you put it, who are you or anyone on the left to criticize them for doing so. When you all laud the likes of Roman Polowaski you kinda lose any moral high ground that you think you might have.

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Cardinal said:
If a child molester is politically destroyed then that would be a moral victory for everybody. And Alabama, in spite of itself, will have redeemed some of its public image.
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Same response to you in my post above

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trouble13 said:
Same response to you in my post above

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"Roman Polanski was a child molester, so we must elect a child molester to the Senate."

Great thinking.
 
When it was only Hollywood celebrities that were getting accused the right was all for it but now that a Republican has been accused suddenly everything must be questioned.
 
Carjosse said:
When it was only Hollywood celebrities that were getting accused the right was all for it but now that a Republican has been accused suddenly everything must be questioned.
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Moore is hoping old angry bigoted whites will overlook his creepy sex perv behavior....Roy is counting on it
 
All politics are local.

The voters of Alabama will be Roy Moore's judge and jury.
 
Cardinal said:
If a child molester is politically destroyed then that would be a moral victory for everybody. And Alabama, in spite of itself, will have redeemed some of its public image.
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Do you have any proof or is it just conveint to belive her over him?

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Cardinal said:
"Roman Polanski was a child molester, so we must elect a child molester to the Senate."

Great thinking.
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That easnt my point. My point is that the moral indignitation rings hollow when you celebrste one snd condemn the other

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trouble13 said:
Do you have any proof or is it just conveint to belive her over him?
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I read the full Washington Post article with its 30 sources, the complete Hannity interview that convinced a Fox News panel that he's guilty, the corroborating evidence of the ex-boyfriend, and finally the ex-colleagues who confirm that he liked to date high schoolers. Did you see all these things? Everything that comes out supports the claims, and nothing that has come out refutes them.

trouble13 said:
That easnt my point. My point is that the moral indignitation rings hollow when you celebrste one snd condemn the other
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"We need to elect a child molester to the Senate because I believe somebody somewhere likes Roman Polanski."

Again, great thinking.
 
Cardinal said:
I read the full Washington Post article with its 30 sources, the complete Hannity interview that convinced a Fox News panel that he's guilty, the corroborating evidence of the ex-boyfriend, and finally the ex-colleagues who confirm that he liked to date high schoolers. Did you see all these things? Everything that comes out supports the claims, and nothing that has come out refutes them.



"We need to elect a child molester to the Senate because I believe somebody somewhere likes Roman Polanski."

Again, great thinking.
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I dont know if i sren everything you have but grnerally speaking u have seen most of it. I lean toward he has a socially unacceptable attraction yo younger women. I dont know if a crime was committed. Feels more like politically motivated smear but im open to being wrong. Show me the money

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Rogue Valley said:
Roy Moore trails in Senate poll after accusations of contact with teenagers



Moore is now tied with Jones among male voters and trailing by 6 percentage points among women voters. The special Alabama Senatorial election is still a month away.

The GOP is in a pickle. They don't want to be publicly associated with Moore, yet they can't afford to lose a red-state GOP Senate seat.

Much will depend on Alabama's religious evangelicals. Can they stomach seating an accused child molester in order to gain an anti-abortion/anti-LGBT vote in the Senate?

Related: A poll shows Roy Moore losing his lead in Alabama's senate race following allegations of sexual misconduct
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I would not take this poll too seriously... we are still in the shock zone. The poll reflects short-term reaction, not necessarily the ultimate reaction. Give it a couple of days to see where this really is.
 
Cardinal said:
"Roman Polanski was a child molester, so we must elect a child molester to the Senate."

Great thinking.
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I don't get that either. Might as well bring in the holier than thou evangelical preachers who have gotten caught going after various individuals of both sexes.
 
Rogue Valley said:
Roy Moore trails in Senate poll after accusations of contact with teenagers



Moore is now tied with Jones among male voters and trailing by 6 percentage points among women voters. The special Alabama Senatorial election is still a month away.

The GOP is in a pickle. They don't want to be publicly associated with Moore, yet they can't afford to lose a red-state GOP Senate seat.

Much will depend on Alabama's religious evangelicals. Can they stomach seating an accused child molester in order to gain an anti-abortion/anti-LGBT vote in the Senate?

Related: A poll shows Roy Moore losing his lead in Alabama's senate race following allegations of sexual misconduct
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Then I guess it was a bad idea to work with slimy democrats to concoct this horrible smear just to hinder the Trump agenda.
 
upsideguy said:
I would not take this poll too seriously... we are still in the shock zone. The poll reflects short-term reaction, not necessarily the ultimate reaction. Give it a couple of days to see where this really is.
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I agree, I think by the time the election rolls around there will be enough Republicans thinking that 14 is close enough to 16.
 
All it takes is some accusations. May be some reporters find some girl Jones had an affair with, and we are even once again.
 
Cardinal said:
I read the full Washington Post article with its 30 sources, the complete Hannity interview that convinced a Fox News panel that he's guilty, the corroborating evidence of the ex-boyfriend, and finally the ex-colleagues who confirm that he liked to date high schoolers. Did you see all these things? Everything that comes out supports the claims, and nothing that has come out refutes them.



"We need to elect a child molester to the Senate because I believe somebody somewhere likes Roman Polanski."

Again, great thinking.
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Again, when was the trial? Defaming someones name to effect their livelyhood (ie; running for office) I hope something comes out showing this underhanded plot to destroy Moore....My personal money is on establishment repubs, teaming with demo's to get the job done.

Now, on to a personal story...When I was growing up a friend of mine's grandparents whom were elderly were celebrating their 50th wedding anniversary. 'Aw that's nice' you might say to yourself, and it was. Seeing two people who so obviously loved each other for half a century....It was cool...At the time he was 76, and she was 65, you do the math....My point is that times change, and being as that is a truth, applying today's cultural, and moral moray's to a time nearly half a century ago, well, that is just foolish...

Now, I will agree with you that by today's standards Moore's alleged actions, are at the least, creepy. However, the man was never charged, never prosecuted for anything, and he has been married for 32 years, to the same woman, had, and raised children, and has grandchildren. If this is a political stunt to tarnish the man for political reasons, it is disgusting. And people clamoring, calling him a 'molester', 'pedophile' (which has a different legal meaning than molester) some 40 years later, based on the utterances of people that may or may not have been bribed to come forward, is just slimy, and underhanded. Something I wouldn't put politicians or so called journalists past these days.

If it is a hoax to ruin Moore those that perpetrated this fraud, and those that just couldn't wait to use it as a bludgeon against opposition of their own twisted ideology should rot in hell.
 
trouble13 said:
I dont know if i sren everything you have but grnerally speaking u have seen most of it. I lean toward he has a socially unacceptable attraction yo younger women. I dont know if a crime was committed. Feels more like politically motivated smear but im open to being wrong. Show me the money
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First, just start with the basics: the original Washington Post article. Read all of it.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/inve...0_story.html?tid=ss_tw&utm_term=.9a1440bc849b

Then the Hannity interview with Moore, and watch the post-interview discussion with the Fox News panel. Watch all of it.



In which the former colleague confirms that it was common knowledge that Moore liked to date high schoolers:

Former Moore colleague: 'Common knowledge' that he dated high school girls | TheHill

The interview with Corfman's ex-boyfriend in which he repeats her account:



Now, assuming you read and watched everything I provided in full and are still skeptical, answer me this: is this really the same standard of skepticism that you applied to Weingstein, Clinton, and Polanski, or would you say you were a little more open to those people being guilty?
 
j-mac said:
Again, when was the trial? Defaming someones name to effect their livelyhood (ie; running for office) I hope something comes out showing this underhanded plot to destroy Moore....My personal money is on establishment repubs, teaming with demo's to get the job done.

Now, on to a personal story...When I was growing up a friend of mine's grandparents whom were elderly were celebrating their 50th wedding anniversary. 'Aw that's nice' you might say to yourself, and it was. Seeing two people who so obviously loved each other for half a century....It was cool...At the time he was 76, and she was 65, you do the math....My point is that times change, and being as that is a truth, applying today's cultural, and moral moray's to a time nearly half a century ago, well, that is just foolish...

Now, I will agree with you that by today's standards Moore's alleged actions, are at the least, creepy. However, the man was never charged, never prosecuted for anything, and he has been married for 32 years, to the same woman, had, and raised children, and has grandchildren. If this is a political stunt to tarnish the man for political reasons, it is disgusting. And people clamoring, calling him a 'molester', 'pedophile' (which has a different legal meaning than molester) some 40 years later, based on the utterances of people that may or may not have been bribed to come forward, is just slimy, and underhanded. Something I wouldn't put politicians or so called journalists past these days.

If it is a hoax to ruin Moore those that perpetrated this fraud, and those that just couldn't wait to use it as a bludgeon against opposition of their own twisted ideology should rot in hell.
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Great post and if the claims are true what strikes me is the degree to which this guy restrained his urges. He had a line, and kept to it, at least mostly....if the tales are true.

I can respect that.....it strikes as well how much this feels like it is about more than this guy and partisan politics and gender politics and Trump hate and Victim Culture Promoting....It feels like this is "Bash The South!" time as well....

Those backwards people gotta be thought!
 
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