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Woman says Roy Moore initiated sexual encounter when she was 14, he was 32[W:122]

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Re: Woman says Roy Moore initiated sexual encounter when she was 14, he was 32

Fletch said:
Yes. I find it creepy that a 32 year old guy would be sniffing around high schools looking for dates. But this was 40 years ago. And how old was Ringo when he sang this song?



He was 33.
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Lame argument.

Did Ringo date 16 year olds?

Now, we know about Ted Nugent and 17 year old girls.....
 
Re: Woman says Roy Moore initiated sexual encounter when she was 14, he was 32

MateoMtnClimber said:
I love when enablers of sexual child abusers tell people with moral fortitude to calm down and stop being so angry and emotional.

While you are regurgitating the ages of Moore's victims, you are neglecting to comprehend that the man is running for the US Senate, he is a hypocritical religious zealot (forgive the redundancy there), he assaulted a 14 year old child, and at least three other young women corroborated his predatory behavior.

Either you misunderstand or you can't think clearly, but you are projecting yourself into your audience.
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1. [Obligatory] We don't know that, and he denies it.
2. The "defense" being put up by the Alabama auditor is.... bizarre, offensive, and v-e-r-y suspicious.
3. As are the multiple accounts.
4. This should disqualify him from ever holding any public office other than "prisoner".
4.a. But it won't. Because People will accept anything rather than the other party. :(
 
Re: Woman says Roy Moore initiated sexual encounter when she was 14, he was 32

maxparrish said:
Much ado about little. The fellow has a taste for flirting with fetching teens, a crass but not fatal behavior. As for the 14 year old, under Alabama law, smooching with a 14 year old would most likely be categorized as a Class A misdemeanor.

It's not like he is Roman Polanski or Anthony Weiner, is it?
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Is this a joke?
 
Re: Woman says Roy Moore initiated sexual encounter when she was 14, he was 32

MateoMtnClimber said:
You have spent pages minimizing the 14 year old victim because the other victims were 16, 17, and 18 years old.
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That is just you either lying or being completely incapable of understanding very basic points. I have done the exact opposite of what you claim. I have repeatedly said that the charges by the 14 year old are serious and if true spell real trouble for Moore. You either are incapable of reading and comprehending such clear statements or just have decided to lie about it for some reason. I haven't interacted with you before so I have no idea which it is, but either is as likely as the other. The rest of your post only builds on this lie so there is no reason to respond to it.
 
Re: Woman says Roy Moore initiated sexual encounter when she was 14, he was 32

Fletch said:
And a lot of lying and outright stupidity from the hateful left has made any discussion of the issue impossible.
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Yeah...that's it...:roll:

This isn't a left/right thing, this is about someone who, it is alleged has a history of sexual perversion with underaged girls. You seem to keep forgetting that.
 
Re: Woman says Roy Moore initiated sexual encounter when she was 14, he was 32

maxparrish said:
I probably would give him a pass. Given southern cultural attitudes about older men and young women it's somewhat understandable. Moreover, as the girl does/did not have regrets, it was consensual. Besides, no one seemed to have cared if David Bowie, Elvis Presley, or Jerry Lee Lewis had their consensual underage love dalliances so how incensed should we be?
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1 that we know of was 14. And you give him a pass?
Consensual by a 14 year old- Really. So children, boys and girls molested under the age of 16, give their molester a pass at it was consensual.
So Father molesting daughter, give it a pass?
Relative molesting under 16, give a pass, as it was the times?
How do you know if she has any regrets?

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Given southern cultural attitudes about older men and young women it's somewhat understandable
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Re: Woman says Roy Moore initiated sexual encounter when she was 14, he was 32

vesper said:
Yes it does have a stench about it.

Is it coming from the Democratic party or the Republican establishment that can not stand Roy Moore?

As soon as I got wind of this story, it wasn't Democrats that I thought were behind it but rather the Republican establishment.
I immediately thought of what happened to Chris McDaniel in Mississippi in 2014. McDaniel a strong Constitutionalist Conservative which the Republican Establishment despised wanted their guy Chad Cochran to win the primary. So they race-baited against McDaniel and encouraged Democrats to raid the primary. They paid blacks to vote for Cochran in the primary. True story.

So just weeks away from the election, these juicy tidbits come out to soil Moore, would not surprise me that the Republican party are behind them. They would rather lose a seat than have Judge Moore elected to the Senate.
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Republican Senators and other leaders lined up behind Moore, endorsing him as he became the candidate.

So.... this is a plan wherein they wished to make themselves look like fools?

You are spot on WRT the absolute abuse of the system and downright evil that McConnell et. al. engaged in to support Cochran. It was infuriating.

....but Moore is now the candidate. That makes him McConnell's Guy. If this theory was accurate, this would have happened at the beginning of the primary.
 
Re: Woman says Roy Moore initiated sexual encounter when she was 14, he was 32

beefheart said:
Yeah...that's it...:roll:

This isn't a left/right thing, this is about someone who, it is alleged has a history of sexual perversion with underaged girls. You seem to keep forgetting that.
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This is exactly the type of lie I am talking about. I am focused on the one relevant charge against the man--the accusation by the 14 year old. You and the rest of your clan are focused on hate, rage and dishonesty.
 
Re: Woman says Roy Moore initiated sexual encounter when she was 14, he was 32

beefheart said:
Yeah...that's it...:roll:

This isn't a left/right thing, this is about someone who, it is alleged has a history of sexual perversion with underaged girls. You seem to keep forgetting that.
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It's also about a Candidate who has been removed Twice from Office ..
 
Re: Woman says Roy Moore initiated sexual encounter when she was 14, he was 32

Fletch said:
This is exactly the type of lie I am talking about. I am focused on the one relevant charge against the man--the accusation by the 14 year old. You and the rest of your clan are focused on hate, rage and dishonesty.
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Are you saying that trump, bannon and their defenders are rubbing off on us ??
 
Re: Woman says Roy Moore initiated sexual encounter when she was 14, he was 32

HenryChinaski said:
Is this a joke?
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He was trying to find a way to say "it's ok for a Republican" without actually saying it.
 
Re: Woman says Roy Moore initiated sexual encounter when she was 14, he was 32

Fletch said:
This is exactly the type of lie I am talking about. I am focused on the one relevant charge against the man--the accusation by the 14 year old. You and the rest of your clan are focused on hate, rage and dishonesty.
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Not a lie.

Only hate and dishonesty I see are coming from you.
 
Re: Woman says Roy Moore initiated sexual encounter when she was 14, he was 32

NIMBY said:
Are you saying that trump, bannon and their defenders are rubbing off on us ??
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Can you make a post that doesn't drag Bannon into it?
 
Re: Woman says Roy Moore initiated sexual encounter when she was 14, he was 32

beefheart said:
Not a lie.

Only hate and dishonesty I see are coming from you.
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Great. Post a single example of hate and/or dishonesty. Thanks.
 
Re: Woman says Roy Moore initiated sexual encounter when she was 14, he was 32

NIMBY said:
It's also about a Candidate who has been removed Twice from Office ..
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Which says a lot about the mindset of the people of Alabama electing him.....cuckoo for cocopuffs!
 
Re: Woman says Roy Moore initiated sexual encounter when she was 14, he was 32

Fletch said:
This is exactly the type of lie I am talking about. I am focused on the one relevant charge against the man--the accusation by the 14 year old. You and the rest of your clan are focused on hate, rage and dishonesty.
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Alright. Lets discuss. He allegedly made sexual advances to a 14 year old. You want to give him a pass on that. Why?
 
Re: Woman says Roy Moore initiated sexual encounter when she was 14, he was 32

Fletch said:
Yes, the accusations by the 14 year old, if true, are serious charges and do represent child molestation.
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Yes, and even if true Jim Zeigler just said it's "very little."
 
Re: Woman says Roy Moore initiated sexual encounter when she was 14, he was 32

beefheart said:
Which says a lot about the mindset of the people of Alabama electing him.....cuckoo for cocopuffs!
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It would say a lot more now that they know about this and they vote him in anyways because it's their "Christian duty" to defeat the dem.
 
Re: Woman says Roy Moore initiated sexual encounter when she was 14, he was 32

Fletch said:
Great. Post a single example of hate and/or dishonesty. Thanks.
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You are focusing solely on the 14 year old and doing all you can to minimize the others. His behavior shows a disturbing pattern of a really pervy guy, but you have to cling to the age of consent, as if that just absolves him of being a perv. Such cognitive dissonance.
 
Re: Woman says Roy Moore initiated sexual encounter when she was 14, he was 32

rocket88 said:
Alright. Lets discuss. He allegedly made sexual advances to a 14 year old. You want to give him a pass on that. Why?
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:doh

I realize this thread is long and I know you haven't read through it. But I have nowhere said that he deserves a pass on the charges by the 14 year old. I have said it over, and over and over. Yet for some reason, the liberals here just cant wrap their heads around it. Please show me that you can.
 
Re: Woman says Roy Moore initiated sexual encounter when she was 14, he was 32

Fletch said:
Can you make a post that doesn't drag Bannon into it?
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Bannon is co-president. He's bragging again today how trump will be reelected in a landslide in 2020. He bragged how Gillespie was going to win and how he had embraced trump policies AND trump himself.

After the trump/bannon losses in Virginia, he threw Gillespie out of the plane without a parachute.

The only other one America needs to know about is Stephen Miller. Enjoy Sen. Corker's hearing on trump and nuclear weapons next Tuesday ...
 
Re: Woman says Roy Moore initiated sexual encounter when she was 14, he was 32

Fletch said:
And a lot of lying and outright stupidity from the hateful left has made any discussion of the issue impossible.
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Lying is simply not true. Stupidity is your opinion. Hateful rightly describes the way some of us feel about old, powerful, racist, religious, hypocritical men sexually abusing young children.

The 26 pages of this thread would counter your assertion that this discussion is impossible, but you can't seriously expect serious people to downplay the seriousness of the alleged acts attributed to a US Senate candidate - for partisan reasons, for reasons of technical legality, nor for any other reason.

I'm not sorry to say that this is just one of those issues that has a right side and a wrong side.
 
Re: Woman says Roy Moore initiated sexual encounter when she was 14, he was 32

Deuce said:
Yes, and even if true Jim Zeigler just said it's "very little."
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Well, hes wrong.
 
Re: Woman says Roy Moore initiated sexual encounter when she was 14, he was 32

MateoMtnClimber said:
Lying is simply not true. Stupidity is your opinion. Hateful rightly describes the way some of us feel about old, powerful, racist, religious, hypocritical men sexually abusing young children.

The 26 pages of this thread would counter your assertion that this discussion is impossible, but you can't seriously expect serious people to downplay the seriousness of the alleged acts attributed to a US Senate candidate - for partisan reasons, for reasons of technical legality, nor for any other reason.

I'm not sorry to say that this is just one of those issues that has a right side and a wrong side.
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And I have said over and over and over that the charges by the 14 year old are serious and present a real problem for Moore. Yet liberals like you keep misrepresenting what I say. There can only be two explanations for that--stupidity or dishonesty.
 
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