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Democrat Ralph Northam defeats Ed Gillespie in race for Va. governor

Did those States Governors return voting rights to potentially 200 thousand convicted felons right before a Presidential election ?

Did Obama flood those States and communities with 10's of thousands of El Salvadorian " refugees " ? Virginia is Blue, they havent elected a GOP politicans since 2009

Northam relied on the same strategy Democrats have been using over the last 8 years to win ( lose ) elections
Identity politics and pandering while steering clear of substaive policy issues.
Northam had immigrant rights groups going door to door advocating against anti- sanctuary city laws and policies and Left wing activist groups canvassing neighborhoods advocating for medicare expansion to another 400 thousand Virginians.

That strategy has limited appeal outside of Blue State strong holds.

For example, when Wendy Davis tried it in Texas, Rick Perry crushed her in the Guberntorial race

There are enough informed voters out there who care about real issues affecting them and their families to maintain a GOP majority, and Democrats are mistaken if they believe Virginia's results are somehow a larger reflection of voter sentiments throughout the Nation

None of that say a thing about those 23 GOP House members running in districts that Hillary won. The House is in play in 2018 and guess which body can start impeachment proceedings?
 
" Tsunami '' ....Lol ! Does that include De blasio's victory too ?

A Democrat wins in a Blue State that hasnt elected a Republican to a State seat since 2009, and its a referendum on Trump ?

Here's a Wapo/ ABC news poll that shows if the election weee held today, Trump would still win....
https://www.washingtonpost.com/page.../06/National-Politics/Polling/release_503.xml

LMMFAO. That's the third time (at least!) for that talking point. And it's still BS because that poll question doesn't show up in that poll. Where you getting your material FentonBot?

And you keep ignoring the HoD that went from 66/34 GOP to at least 51/49 GOP. So "A" democrat didn't win, a bunch of them won and unseated at least 15 republicans in the HoD.
 
Turnout in Virginia's red districts was higher than usual as well, just not as high as it was in NOVA. None of that, however, addresses the point I raised. Keeping what you already had solidly is not a win. The Democrats already had Virginia. It is a push for them.....and your #4 point is patently false on its face. Virginia does not do party affiliation registration so there are no "Registered" either in the state.

Wait, so if the GOP controlled the House of Delegates 66/34 before this week, that means the Democrats controlled the state? How does that work? And losing 15 seats at least in the HoD is a "push" for the GOP? That's some weird GOP math you got going there. You getting talking points the same place as FentonBot?

FWIW, the GOP also still controls the VA Senate - 21/19 as I recall. Weird how the GOP can have majorities in both HoD and Senate and the Democrats control the state...
 
LMMFAO. That's the third time (at least!) for that talking point. And it's still BS because that poll question doesn't show up in that poll. Where you getting your material FentonBot?

And you keep ignoring the HoD that went from 66/34 GOP to at least 51/49 GOP. So "A" democrat didn't win, a bunch of them won and unseated at least 15 republicans in the HoD.

Im well aware of the election results and if anyone's ignoring anything it you.

Like Virginia's subtantial shift in demographics over the last 8 years and McAullifes timely decsion to add another 200,000 potential Democrat voters to the States electoral roles.

Its no coincidence Virginian voters havent elected a Republican to a State seat since 2009.

Northam knew this, its why he ran a camapign void of any substance policy wise and stuck with identity politics.

Pandering to the victim class and divisive rhetoric to lure in the naive ande. uniformed voter works in States like Virginia

I really hope the Dems stick to that strategy and apply it every time they run
 
Im well aware of the election results and if anyone's ignoring anything it you.

Like Virginia's subtantial shift in demographics over the last 8 years and McAullifes timely decsion to add another 200,000 potential Democrat voters to the States electoral roles.

Its no coincidence Virginian voters havent elected a Republican to a State seat since 2009.

Northam knew this, its why he ran a camapign void of any substance policy wise and stuck with identity politics.

Pandering to the victim class and divisive rhetoric to lure in the naive ande. uniformed voter works in States like Virginia

I really hope the Dems stick to that strategy and apply it every time they run

Hey Fenton, why shouldn't a felon who served his time and paid his debt to society have the right to vote?
 
Republican and democrat voters are split down the middle in Virginia.

A few years ago, maybe, but not anymore.
Northam couldnt have pulled off a victory that large if that were the case, and he wouldnt have run the kind of campaign he did if he knew he had to win over GOP voters or even moderates to win.
 
A few years ago, maybe, but not anymore.
Northam couldnt have pulled off a victory that large if that were the case, and he wouldnt have run the kind of campaign he did if he knew he had to win over GOP voters or even moderates to win.

No, actually Virginia was split down the middle as of just 2016. I linked to that source already but you must have ignored it.
 
Like Virginia's subtantial shift in demographics over the last 8 years and McAullifes timely decsion to add another 200,000 potential Democrat voters to the States electoral roles.

FentonBot, I deleted a few talking points you've said about a dozen times this thread and will just comment on this one.

Did you realize that convicted felons can vote in Texas once they complete their sentence? It's true!!!

So why in the hell do we, or you, care that McAuliffe restored voting rights on the same basis Texas restores them automatically? I say give him a hand! :applaud
 
FentonBot, I deleted a few talking points you've said about a dozen times this thread and will just comment on this one.

Did you realize that convicted felons can vote in Texas once they complete their sentence? It's true!!!

So why in the hell do we, or you, care that McAuliffe restored voting rights on the same basis Texas restores them automatically? I say give him a hand! :applaud

Good luck, I've asked him 6 times.

That is how Fenton works, he just ignores sticky questions he can't answer.
 
No, actually Virginia was split down the middle as of just 2016. I linked to that source already but you must have ignored it.

Nonsense....


Va.'s numbers of Hispanics and Asians skyrocket as white population dwindles
Va.'s numbers of Hispanics and Asians skyrocket as white population dwindles

“Soaring number of Hispanics and Asians pushed Virginia’s population over 8 million in the past decade.”

The Democrats know they cannot compete and win on policy based messaging, they know the results of their policies lead to substantial backlash from American voters, so they simply import immigrants and " refugees " and embrace sanctuary city policies until the votes and voices of Americans who vote for the opposition are canceled out completely.

McAullife went one better by giving a potential 200,000 convicted felons the right to vote, just prior to a Presidential election.

They've been doing this in California, and they've been doing it in Virginia and if they had their way they would do it to every State in the Union regardless of the economic, social or fiscal consequences or its impact on public safety. California's essentially a 1 party State now and its a mess with increasing poverty, homelessness, massive debt and unfunded liabilities and a crumbling infrastructure.
Liberal tax and spend policies have driven out their Middle class and thousands of businesses and investment capital have followed along with its tax base and Californians who have chosen to remain, will continue to vote for Democrats no matter how bad it gets

The Democrats have put their party over Country for years now, but in the last 8 years they've gone out of their way to cause large demographics shifts for the sole purpose of remaining in power and Virginia was ground zero for Salvadorian immigrants brought over as " refugees " on Obama's watch. Importing in millions of people to grow their base and effectively cancel out votes of the opposition under the pretense of humanitarian purposes is reprehensible, and right up the Democratic party's alley


Salvadoran Immigrants in the United States

https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/salvadoran-immigrants-united-states
about one-fifth of the total population of El Salvador” resides in the United States. The Associated Press reports that, “El Salvador is the top country of birth for immigrants to Virginia.”

There's a reason Northam ran the kind of campaign he did, why he steered clear of policy based messaging and why he minimized the rising MS-13 violence and murders. He knew the scales were always tipped in his favor and he wasn't the only Democrat that benefited from the mass influx of immigrants over the last few years
 
FentonBot, I deleted a few talking points you've said about a dozen times this thread and will just comment on this one.

Did you realize that convicted felons can vote in Texas once they complete their sentence? It's true!!!

So why in the hell do we, or you, care that McAuliffe restored voting rights on the same basis Texas restores them automatically? I say give him a hand! :applaud

I already responded and said I didn't have an issue with the restoration of a felons rights, after a waiting period of-course. In Texas rights are restored after confinement and parole, and the average time spent on parole is around 19 months and more than 3/4 of felons released are released on parole. Recidivism is high with convicted felons and McAullife was well aware of that.

McAullife's 2016 order went into effect immediately, and included violent and nonviolent offenders. Since 2016, 142,00 felons have had their right to vote returned, and Mcaulliffe bragged that he had given more felons their rights back than all other States combined.

Your'e naive if you think he was motivated by anything other than tipping the election in the Democrats favor. So add in 10's of thousands of felons to the huge demographic shift Virginia has gone through over the last 8 years, and you have a State thats permanently weighted towards the Democratic party.

Democrats know they cant compete and win on policy issues, and they're well aware that the consequences of their agenda and policies lead to substantial voter backlash and election losses. Mass immigration into localities and States under the pretense of " humanitarian " reasons to the point where it cancels out and eventually over takes votes from the opposition is the only way they can remain in power.

Its reprehensible, as it puts party over Country and people, but thats the modern day Democratic party
 
Nonsense....


Va.'s numbers of Hispanics and Asians skyrocket as white population dwindles
Va.'s numbers of Hispanics and Asians skyrocket as white population dwindles

“Soaring number of Hispanics and Asians pushed Virginia’s population over 8 million in the past decade.”



The Democrats know they cannot compete and win on policy based messaging, they know the results of their policies lead to substantial backlash from American voters, so they simply import immigrants and " refugees " and embrace sanctuary city policies until the votes and voices of Americans who vote for the opposition are canceled out completely.

McAullife went one better by giving a potential 200,000 convicted felons the right to vote, just prior to a Presidential election.

They've been doing this in California, and they've been doing it in Virginia and if they had their way they would do it to every State in the Union regardless of the economic, social or fiscal consequences or its impact on public safety. California's essentially a 1 party State now and its a mess with increasing poverty, homelessness, massive debt and unfunded liabilities and a crumbling infrastructure.
Liberal tax and spend policies have driven out their Middle class and thousands of businesses and investment capital have followed along with its tax base and Californians who have chosen to remain, will continue to vote for Democrats no matter how bad it gets

The Democrats have put their party over Country for years now, but in the last 8 years they've gone out of their way to cause large demographics shifts for the sole purpose of remaining in power and Virginia was ground zero for Salvadorian immigrants brought over as " refugees " on Obama's watch. Importing in millions of people to grow their base and effectively cancel out votes of the opposition under the pretense of humanitarian purposes is reprehensible, and right up the Democratic party's alley


Salvadoran Immigrants in the United States

https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/salvadoran-immigrants-united-states
about one-fifth of the total population of El Salvador” resides in the United States. The Associated Press reports that, “El Salvador is the top country of birth for immigrants to Virginia.”

There's a reason Northam ran the kind of campaign he did, why he steered clear of policy based messaging and why he minimized the rising MS-13 violence and murders. He knew the scales were always tipped in his favor and he wasn't the only Democrat that benefited from the mass influx of immigrants over the last few years

Republicans and democrats are split right down the middle.

GOP Maintains Edge in State Party Affiliation in 2016
 
Democrats know they cant compete and win on policy issues, and they're well aware that the consequences of their agenda and policies lead to substantial voter backlash and election losses.

This doesn't make a lot of sense. The GOP hasn't produced a single popular piece of legislation all year (surely even you must've noticed they haven't actually passed anything of consequence yet despite having total control of government all year).

Their awful health bills were the most hated pieces of legislation I've ever seen, their tax giveaway to the wealthy is currently underwater. Polling is pretty clear that people don't want to see DREAMERs deported or the Children's Health Insurance Program defunded. None of the policies they're pursuing, on purpose or accidentally, are even remotely popular.

What planet are you living on that you think people are clamoring for the stalled and failing GOP agenda? As long as Dems run on literally the opposite of the GOP agenda (e.g., don't throw tens of millions of people off health insurance or take it from kids, do give tax relief to the middle class instead of the wealthy, don't deport productive members of society brought here as children, etc) they'll be fine next year.
 
I already responded and said I didn't have an issue with the restoration of a felons rights, after a waiting period of-course. In Texas rights are restored after confinement and parole, and the average time spent on parole is around 19 months and more than 3/4 of felons released are released on parole. Recidivism is high with convicted felons and McAullife was well aware of that.

McAullife's 2016 order went into effect immediately, and included violent and nonviolent offenders. Since 2016, 142,00 felons have had their right to vote returned, and Mcaulliffe bragged that he had given more felons their rights back than all other States combined.

He restored voting rights on EXACTLY the same terms as Texas does automatically, for both violent and non-violent offenders - after they complete their sentences including parole/probation.

For some reason, you seem to think it's unfair for McAuliffe to do what Texas does as a matter of routine.

Your'e naive if you think he was motivated by anything other than tipping the election in the Democrats favor. So add in 10's of thousands of felons to the huge demographic shift Virginia has gone through over the last 8 years, and you have a State thats permanently weighted towards the Democratic party.

Democrats know they cant compete and win on policy issues, and they're well aware that the consequences of their agenda and policies lead to substantial voter backlash and election losses. Mass immigration into localities and States under the pretense of " humanitarian " reasons to the point where it cancels out and eventually over takes votes from the opposition is the only way they can remain in power.

Its reprehensible, as it puts party over Country and people, but thats the modern day Democratic party

Yeah, immigrants suck, Democrats hate America, blah blah. Your talking points are getting stale FentonBot.
 
He restored voting rights on EXACTLY the same terms as Texas does automatically, for both violent and non-violent offenders - after they complete their sentences including parole/probation.

For some reason, you seem to think it's unfair for McAuliffe to do what Texas does as a matter of routine.



Yeah, immigrants suck, Democrats hate America, blah blah. Your talking points are getting stale FentonBot.

Not talking points at all, its the truth..

Va's number of hispanics and asians skyrocket
Va.'s numbers of Hispanics and Asians skyrocket as white population dwindles
 
Not talking points at all, its the truth..

Va's number of hispanics and asians skyrocket
Va.'s numbers of Hispanics and Asians skyrocket as white population dwindles

Yes, and what would you have Virginia do about it? Put up signs along the border - "Hispanics, blacks and Asians are NOT WELCOME HERE!!!"

Otherwise, you have zero evidence any Democratic governor started bussing them into VA for partisan reasons over the objections of the GOP HoD and Senate. Your position is something like - NOT FAIR that white rednecks aren't the majority anymore. Well, when you have a booming economy with lots of good jobs, that attracts newcomers to your state and many of them will be immigrants, and that's a good thing for the state's economy.
 
This doesn't make a lot of sense. The GOP hasn't produced a single popular piece of legislation all year (surely even you must've noticed they haven't actually passed anything of consequence yet despite having total control of government all year).

Their awful health bills were the most hated pieces of legislation I've ever seen, their tax giveaway to the wealthy is currently underwater. Polling is pretty clear that people don't want to see DREAMERs deported or the Children's Health Insurance Program defunded. None of the policies they're pursuing, on purpose or accidentally, are even remotely popular.

What planet are you living on that you think people are clamoring for the stalled and failing GOP agenda? As long as Dems run on literally the opposite of the GOP agenda (e.g., don't throw tens of millions of people off health insurance or take it from kids, do give tax relief to the middle class instead of the wealthy, don't deport productive members of society brought here as children, etc) they'll be fine next year.

If yourv'e been paying attention, it makes all the sense in the world. Voters have been responding to the intended and unintended consequences of the Liberal agenda for the last 8 years and Democrats have been avoiding those consequences for the last 8 years

Democrats dont campaign on their accomplishments or policies, how could they ? No, they stick to identity politcs, pandering and lies

Like claiming GOP tax reform would raise taxes on most of the middle class, a lie you just repeated
Va.'s numbers of Hispanics and Asians skyrocket as white population dwindles

They pander to and lie to their base, who are either too uniformed to know the truth or too partisan to care and Northam ran the same campaign Democrats have been running since 2010, a camapign driven by identity politcs and appeals to emotions, lies and hyperbole.

The commercial with the Gillepsie supporter running down minority children pretty much sums up the tyoical Democrat campaign strategy, and the fact that it worked in Virginia reflects the subtantial demographic shift thats occured over the last 8 repea.

That kind of add or strategy has a limited appeal and I really hope Democrats try it again
 
The commercial with the Gillepsie supporter running down minority children pretty much sums up the tyoical Democrat campaign strategy, and the fact that it worked in Virginia reflects the subtantial demographic shift thats occured over the last 8 repea.

That kind of add or strategy has a limited appeal and I really hope Democrats try it again

Gosh, that's terrible the not-campaign ran that commercial in response to Gillespie's racist or race-baiting ads with MS-13 gang members all tatted up implying the evil Democrat would let them out of prison in the non-existent sanctuary cities in Virginia. Boo ****ing hooo....
 
Yes, and what would you have Virginia do about it? Put up signs along the border - "Hispanics, blacks and Asians are NOT WELCOME HERE!!!"

Otherwise, you have zero evidence any Democratic governor started bussing them into VA for partisan reasons over the objections of the GOP HoD and Senate. Your position is something like - NOT FAIR that white rednecks aren't the majority anymore. Well, when you have a booming economy with lots of good jobs, that attracts newcomers to your state and many of them will be immigrants, and that's a good thing for the state's economy.

Lol. ! You have got to be kidding me....

Obama to expand and ease asylum process from Central America...
https://www.google.com/amp/amp.mccl...s-government/white-house/article91978142.html

If Virginia was a swing State before Obama's refugeee initiative, it certaintly isnt anymore

And no, a mass influx of low skilled under educated immigrants is NOT good for the economy

You should probably not commment on topics that are so obviously above your head, like whats good or bad for the US economy. " Refugees " admitted from El Salvador had little skills and a average of a 3rd grade education.

The Obama administration also budgeted 17,800 dollars for each refugee and according to census data, the number of immigrants addmitted to or who illegally entered the US have increased the size of the low-skilled workforce by 25 percent, causing earnings for this group to drop substantially.

The Lefts rhetoric about wealth redistrubition doesn't include the fact that the mass admittance of low skilled and under educated illegal immigrants and " refugees " has caused massive wealth redisttubition from low skilled American workers to immigrants

The only purpose it serves, and was meant to serve is to cancel out and over take votes for the opposition party and it worked in Virginia and in California, but there's a bright side.

Liberal Democrat policies are typically implemented without much thought to future unintended consequences.

Flooding cities and states with immigrants or refugees with no skills and little education puts a massive strain on social services while it drives down wages. Crime rates rise ( violent MS-13 crime in Virginia ) which forces the State and cities affected to devote more revenue to counter it

In order to pay for it taxes are increased and that drives out investment. Governors like Northam will just simply ignore MS-13 which will drive out middle class residents
 
The article I linked to already made that clear.



Democrats took a clear majority away from the House of Delegates. That's not merely keeping what you won. Neither of which is the point anyway because you asked how the election was a big success, and I answered that on multiple fronts.



Semantic wordplay. Party identification and lean is split clean down the middle.

It isn't semantics or word play. Virginia has no registered party identifications. It is one o fthe things that makes the state somewhat harder to model in comparison to others. The closest you will come is to look at who votes in which primary.
 
Wait, so if the GOP controlled the House of Delegates 66/34 before this week, that means the Democrats controlled the state? How does that work? And losing 15 seats at least in the HoD is a "push" for the GOP? That's some weird GOP math you got going there. You getting talking points the same place as FentonBot?

FWIW, the GOP also still controls the VA Senate - 21/19 as I recall. Weird how the GOP can have majorities in both HoD and Senate and the Democrats control the state...

Yes the democrats controlled the state.
 
The GOP had the state 66-34....

Do you know when the republicans got a foothold in the state legislature and who gave it to them? It was when Constitutionap Party Candidate Virgil Goode flipped the legislature, ran for Congress and a democrat and then flipped to the GOP.
 
Lol. ! You have got to be kidding me....

Obama to expand and ease asylum process from Central America...
https://www.google.com/amp/amp.mccl...s-government/white-house/article91978142.html

From your own source (do you even check them?):

Since 2014, tens of thousands of unaccompanied children and families from El Salvador, Honduras and Guatemala have rushed to the U.S. border fleeing violence and poverty. The wave of migrants from the so-called Northern Triangle of Central America spurred the Obama administration to launch massive deportation raids and reopen controversial family detention centers.

I deleted the rest because if you can't be honest about your own sources, why bother.
 
Yes the democrats controlled the state.

Just not the legislature which has to pass budgets, taxes, spending, etc. and any other law. Seems to me that's kind of significant.
 
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