Comey Draft Statement on Clinton Emails Called Her Actions 'Grossly Negligent,' New Memos Sho[W:217]

Greenbeard said:

Your article is from March. We've learned things since then!

Here's what Sessions said:

And here's what we learned last week: Sessions Rejected Russia Proposal by Campaign Adviser, Source Says

That's a big fib!

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Greenbeard said:

Your article is from March. We've learned things since then!

Here's what Sessions said:



And here's what we learned last week: Sessions Rejected Russia Proposal by Campaign Adviser, Source Says


That's a big fib!

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Greenbeard said:

This thread is about the diction of a statement.

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eohrnberger said:

"Russian contacts", don't specify Russian government contacts.
So that'd be another instance of "inartful or imprecise".
Franken's question was specific to "Russian government".

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Defendant PAPADOPOULOS then emailed the Campaign Supervisor, with the subject line "Re: Messages from Russia": "I have the Russian MFA [Ministry of Foreign Affairs] asking me if Mr. Trump is interested in visiting Russia The at some point. Wanted to pass this info along to you for you to decide what's best to do with it and what message I should send (or to ignore)."

21. From mid-June through mid-August 2016, PAPADOPOULOS pursued an "off the record" meeting between one or more Carnpaign representatives and "members of president putin's office and the mfa."

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Greenbeard said:

If you told me a year ago that we'd still have almost daily Clinton Emails threads in Q4 2017, I would've said "wow, Trump's presidency must turn into a really indefensible trainwreck!"

What do you know!

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DiAnna said:

But... But....But HILLARY!!! DON'T LOOK AT TRUMP; LOOK AT HILLLLLLLARRRRRY!!!!

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Fenton said:

Comey draft statement on Clinton emails called her actions 'grossly negligent,' new memos show


Comey draft statement on Clinton emails called her actions 'grossly negligent,' new memos show | Fox News

"Newly reported memos to Congress released Monday showed that language was softened between an early draft and the final copy of former FBI Director James Comey’s statement closing out the Hillary Clinton email case.

Originally Comey accused the former secretary of state of being “grossly negligent” in handling classified information in a draft dated May 2, 2016, but that was modified to claim that Clinton had been “extremely careless” in a draft dated June 10, 2016.

Comey stuck to that modified language when he announced in July 2016 that there would be no charges against Clinton.

Federal law states that gross negligence in handling the nation’s intelligence can be punished criminally with prison time or fines, according to The Hill, which first reported on the memos."

Hmmm....it would appear Comey softened his language just a little bit. I wonder why...

18 U.S. Code § 793 - Gathering, transmitting or losing defense information

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/793

(f) Whoever, being entrusted with or having lawful possession or control of any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, note, or information, relating to the national defense, (1) through gross negligence permits the same to be removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of his trust, or to be lost, stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, or (2) having knowledge that the same has been illegally removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of its trust, or lost, or stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, and fails to make prompt report of such loss, theft, abstraction, or destruction to his superior officer—

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Greenbeard said:

Uh.



:doh

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You need to strain awfully hard to find Sessions’s reaction to Papadopoulos somehow damning rather than exonerating.
Perjury? Carter Page testifies that he told Jeff Sessions about his trip to Russia last June

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The entire reason Papadopoulos is relevant to the investigation is because he doggedly tried to get the Trump campaign together with Russian officials for months, yet here’s an instance of the future Attorney General squashing the idea of a Trump/Putin meeting the minute Papadopoulos proposed it. And somehow that’s not the main angle for CNN.
https://hotair.com/archives/2017/11...ouloss-proposal-trump-meeting-putin-campaign/

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eohrnberger said:

An interesting take on this.

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Greenbeard said:

Just to reiterate: Papadopoulos is in contact with the Russian government and its operatives, tries to set up a high-level meeting with Russian government officials, Sessions shoots down the idea, and when asked under oath if anyone like Papadopoulos did anything like exactly what Papadopoulos did Sessions says no.

And you're throwing "inartful or imprecise" at me?

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digsbe said:

Could be because it's also one of the highest level corruption cases in recent years and reeks of corruption and unprecedented leniency..



We should look at both, in no way should they be mutual. I really think the DNC/Obama admin got away with rampant abuses and corruption that needs corrected.

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countryboy said:

Yeah right. Ever heard of the term "equal justice under the law"?

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Fenton said:

Comey draft statement on Clinton emails called her actions 'grossly negligent,' new memos show


Comey draft statement on Clinton emails called her actions 'grossly negligent,' new memos show | Fox News

"Newly reported memos to Congress released Monday showed that language was softened between an early draft and the final copy of former FBI Director James Comey’s statement closing out the Hillary Clinton email case.

Originally Comey accused the former secretary of state of being “grossly negligent” in handling classified information in a draft dated May 2, 2016, but that was modified to claim that Clinton had been “extremely careless” in a draft dated June 10, 2016.

Comey stuck to that modified language when he announced in July 2016 that there would be no charges against Clinton.

Federal law states that gross negligence in handling the nation’s intelligence can be punished criminally with prison time or fines, according to The Hill, which first reported on the memos."

Hmmm....it would appear Comey softened his language just a little bit. I wonder why...

18 U.S. Code § 793 - Gathering, transmitting or losing defense information

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/793

(f) Whoever, being entrusted with or having lawful possession or control of any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, note, or information, relating to the national defense, (1) through gross negligence permits the same to be removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of his trust, or to be lost, stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, or (2) having knowledge that the same has been illegally removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of its trust, or lost, or stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, and fails to make prompt report of such loss, theft, abstraction, or destruction to his superior officer—

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Kal'Stang said:

How long into Obama's Presidency was Bush talked about? Or should we only shut up about past administrations actions when its about Democrats?

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Fenton said:

No, whats SOOOO embarrasing is that even though Hillary Clinton outspent her challeneger by 2 to 1, had major media outlets in her corner, had polling data skewed in her favor and was all but guaranteed to be our 45th President, she lost to a guy like Donald Trump...:lamo :lamo

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Greenbeard said:

I totally buy that the email management practices of a former SoS are more damaging to American interests than the treason of a presidential candidate.

It's a good thing she didn't win the office, she might've invited the spymaster of a hostile foreign power into the Oval Office and divulged intelligence secrets to him! How embarrassing would that have been? Bullet dodged.

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Fenton said:

No, whats SOOOO embarrasing is that even though Hillary Clinton outspent her challeneger by 2 to 1, had major media outlets in her corner, had polling data skewed in her favor and was all but guaranteed to be our 45th President, she lost to a guy like Donald Trump...:lamo :lamo

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lurchadams said:

The GOP has control over all three branches of government. If there was something criminal that would hang HRC they'd be all over it. Post all the Faux News HRC hate articles you want. Hillary's gone and irrelevant, but there's still a market for gullible haters to buy crap like this.

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Greenbeard said:

Kind of like publicly browbeating his AG to investigate his political opponents.

Trump 'disappointed' in Justice Department for not focusing on Hillary Clinton and Democratic National Committee



Wait sorry, no, my example is much worse. Darker and scarier, in fact.

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cpwill said:

At the time, this was the exact point I said Congress should have hammered him on. Comey made up the legal standard "Extremely Careless" because he needed something that meant "Gross Negligence", without tripping that legal language. FBI Directors, however, are not Congress, and don't get to make up law.

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eohrnberger said:

An interesting take on this.



Seems that Papadopoulos is going to be the fall guy for this.


In the end, it's all probably going to come out in the wash anyway. We'll have to see.

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Saladin4 said:

You have any proof?......You got nothing but Russian Fake news

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Kobie said:

Your ignorance is breathtaking.

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Kobie said:

The Trumpanzees only care about the FNC version of Hillary because Trump is a disaster.

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The sources who had seen the early draft, who spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak to the media, said the draft statement was subsequently changed in red-line edits on or around June 10 to conclude that the handling of 110 emails containing classified information that were transmitted by Clinton and her aides over her insecure personal email server was “extremely careless.”

Memos show that at least three top FBI officials were involved in helping Comey fashion and edit the statement, including Deputy Director Andrew McCabe, General Counsel James Baker and chief of staff Jim Rybicki.

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Among the points of inquiry was whether McCabe should have recused himself from the case because of his family's political ties.Before McCabe was promoted to deputy FBI director, his wife, Jill, took money from Clinton ally and Virginia Gov. Terry McAuliffe's political action committee while running for state Senate.

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Earlier this year, McCabe told President Donald Trump's chief of staff, Reince Priebus, that a New York Times report about the FBI's examination of the campaign's ties to Russia was inaccurate. That prompted Priebus to ask the FBI to rebut the story publicly, but the FBI declined.

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lurchadams said:

It's your desperation to harp on Hillary and her emails that speaks to your zeal to hang onto hatred loses you credibility, my friend. Hillary is irrelevant. She can't hurt you anymore. Trump and his minions lying about their Russian contacts is reality. Mueller's charges are a reality. More charges will come and more dominos will fall. This also is reality.

I hope this helps.

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