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The Latest: Bergdahl gets no prison time for leaving position

cuban smokes said:
I recall someone recently stating something to the affect they know what they signed up for & I assume that goes for anyone in a volunteer military .........
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Do you know what the thread is about? Because this post has zero to do with it!
 
Floridafan said:
Believe whatever you want, its not going to change Bergdahls sentence.
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But the facts of what Bergdahl did and the men he got killed are both well known to the military, so I'd suspect he's going to get a rather heavier sentence than you are hoping.
 
I am sure the bed wetting liberals are happy with such a slight sentence. They always side with the lawbreakers, criminals, and illegals. This guy deserted. He even entered a guilty plea. This sentence is a slap in the face to everyone who ever wore the uniform. Now, he can look over his shoulder the rest of his life wondering if one of his military "buddies" is coming to visit him.
 
Common Sense 1 said:
Do you know what the thread is about? Because this post has zero to do with it!
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I replied to this:
The prosecutors seeking seeking 14 years behind bars. The military judge said no time in jail.
From what I know about the case, the sentence seems very lenient. You have to feel bad for all the guys
that were hurt looking for him after he walked away. There are going to be some very upset people.


With this:
I recall someone recently stating something to the affect they know what they signed up for & I assume that goes for anyone in a volunteer military .........


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life is a two way street & anyone that volunteers for any job, or duty, is there because they know what they are signing up for, period.

if you think my reply has zero to do with what I replied to, then I guess you are entitled to your (mistaken) opinion ............ cheers ...........
 
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justabubba said:
i will call you a time article and raise you a newsweek article which tells us your cite is untrue:
Did 6 Soldiers Really Die Looking for Bergdahl?
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Except.....

"The parents of both Andrews and Martinek told Reuters last week they believe their sons died searching for Bergdahl, saying they were told this by other soldiers in the platoon."

Even your source trying to excuse Bergdahl's actions still condemns him.
 
Tigerace117 said:
But the facts of what Bergdahl did and the men he got killed are both well known to the military, so I'd suspect he's going to get a rather heavier sentence than you are hoping.
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He has already been sentenced, where have you been?
 
Dittohead not! said:
The US was at war when Slovic deserted. We haven't been at war since 1945. Should we lock up every soldier who deserts his post?
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No Korea? No Vietnam? No Desert Storm? Gee, things have been so peaceful since WWII. :mrgreen:
 
danarhea said:
I am really torn on this one. I think Bergdahl should have gone to prison for desertion. During WWII, Private Eddie Slovik was executed by firing squad for doing the exact same thing, and nobody was injured looking for him. Bergdahl endangered and caused actual harm to fellow soldiers. I think this sentence is way too lenient.

Discussion?

https://apnews.com/95884decf5264300...Bergdahl-gets-no-prison-time-for-leaving-post
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He should face a firing squad.

and pay reparations to those families of those who were harmed looking for him.


not in that order tho.
 
Tigerace117 said:
Seeing as the Taliban actively hid and supported--- and continued to support--OBL's Al Qaeda, they were every bit as legitimate a target as the AQ forces, despite what you seem to be implying.

The fact remains that if Bergdahl had not done what he did, these troops might still be alive.
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Mullah Omar stated after 9/11 that if the USA provided proof of OBL's participation in the attack, he would turn OBL over to an International Court. The USA ignored him.
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Floridafan said:
He has already been sentenced, where have you been?
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Dishonorable discharge, fines and more. Hmm..... seems no one agrees with your interpretation of Bergdahl's actions.
 
Floridafan said:
Reuters:

While many questions remain, a Reuters reconstruction of his disappearance indicates that at the time when Bergdahl’s six comrades in the 1st Battalion of the 501st Parachute Infantry Regiment were killed in August and September 2009, his fallen comrades were on other missions like securing the Afghan elections and, according to one U.S. military official, the period of intensive ground searches had already ended.

But several soldiers in his unit say the quest to locate him never really ended, and that it was an element of every mission they undertook, prompting some to blame the deaths on him.

The U.S. Army has declined to give an account of those fraught weeks saying a new investigation will be conducted when Bergdahl, now being treated at a U.S. military hospital in Germany, is able to take part.
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mid july was when patrols in search of bergdahl ended
and it is after that time when the six deaths attributed to bergdahl search patrols occurred ... only they did not die in bergdahl search patrols
it appears no soldier actually died in the search for bergdahl

someone who had previously been identified as too mentally damaged to perform military service
someone who spent years in confinement by the enemy
the punishment fits the crime
leave the fellow alone
he will still have to live with his actions and the dishonorable service record

https://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/04/...-be-tied-to-6-lost-lives-facts-are-murky.html
 
Tigerace117 said:
Dishonorable discharge, fines and more. Hmm..... seems no one agrees with your interpretation of Bergdahl's actions.
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I am sure that if soldiers had died in the search for him, his sentence would have been far more severe.
 
DaveFagan said:
Mullah Omar stated after 9/11 that if the USA provided proof of OBL's participation in the attack, he would turn OBL over to an International Court. The USA ignored him.
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Mullah Omar was lying. Even if he had wanted to do so--- which, by the way, there's no proof that he did--- Pashtunwallah would have prevented him from doing so. As it is, if he had been serious he or his successors would have expelled AQ after OBL repeatedly admitted his guilt instead of embracing them.
 
Floridafan said:
I am sure that if soldiers had died in the search for him, his sentence would have been far more severe.
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As I already showed you, six men died looking for him. As it is a dishonorable discharge is no small punishments
 
Tigerace117 said:
As I already showed you, six men died looking for him. As it is a dishonorable discharge is no small punishments
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I already showed you that no one dies in his search. Believe what you want!
 
Floridafan said:
I already showed you that no one dies in his search. Believe what you want!
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No, you showed me that even those sources which tried to defend Bergdahl ended up admitting that he got people killed.
 
Tigerace117 said:
Mullah Omar was lying. Even if he had wanted to do so--- which, by the way, there's no proof that he did--- Pashtunwallah would have prevented him from doing so. As it is, if he had been serious he or his successors would have expelled AQ after OBL repeatedly admitted his guilt instead of embracing them.
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Your version of history is always what you want it to be and never, NEVER the actual truth. You are consistent, however. Not much hope.
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He probably should have gotten some kind of prison sentence...

Oddly enough he will get military ( I suppose retirement) pay after 10 months.

I wonder how long it will be before Hollywood gives him a big payday for the rights to a movie.

djl
 
justabubba said:
and it has been shown that 6 men did not die while on patrol in a quest to find bergdahl

https://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/04/...-be-tied-to-6-lost-lives-facts-are-murky.html
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And again....

"But, he said, the reason he and his colleagues are angry is that too often that summer, the purpose of their patrols into dangerous areas was not ordinary wartime work like reconnaissance, maintaining a security presence, or humanitarian projects, but rather “to go look for this guy.”

Once again, your defense of Bergdahl only condemns him more
 
Tigerace117 said:
And again....

"But, he said, the reason he and his colleagues are angry is that too often that summer, the purpose of their patrols into dangerous areas was not ordinary wartime work like reconnaissance, maintaining a security presence, or humanitarian projects, but rather “to go look for this guy.”

Once again, your defense of Bergdahl only condemns him more
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Nothing will change the fact that he has been sentenced and his case has ended.
 
Bergdahl was mentally ill at the time of his desertion and shouldn't have been at the post in the first place. He also endured quite a bit of misery for his actions at the hands of his captors. However if you look at the injuries and how those injured soldiers lives were somewhat ruined, it's hard not to think Bergdahl should have to pay for that. It seems like he should have gotten at least some time but stupid Trump goofed that up.
 
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