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Sessions under renewed scrutiny on Capitol Hill

Captain Adverse said:
All Session's has to do is stick to his original story.

Just because there is a picture of this Popadopoulas sitting at a table, does not mean he either briefed them on Russia, or briefed them on his attempts to talk to some contact named "professor."

Meanwhile, let's for argument's sake agree that he might have mentioned this during this (or any) meeting. It is so minor a side issue, why would anyone be expected to remember it?

Ask yourselves the same question about things which may have been brought up at some meeting that you either didn't care about, felt didn't concern you, or dismissed as unimportant.

Can you honestly say you remember everything ever said about everything ever brought up at every meeting you attended?

Or are you willing to admit at the very least, only those things you felt were important...and even then only what stuck with you about that issue?

I'm going to wait until event's unfold. IMO it is still a big "nothing-burger with who cares sauce." :coffeepap:
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So the AG committed perjury during his congressional testimony, and you think it's a "nothing-burger".
 
Captain Adverse said:
Meanwhile, anyone on the Left who is at all honest with themselves, must realize that Hillary was such a crappy candidate, many Democrats just weren't motivated to go out and vote for her. :shrug:
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Yes, we admit both candidates were horrible. You want to argue that the russian agents and bots targeting vulnerable Americans on social media had no role in disenchanting potential Democratic voters? You're either delusional or just not very well informed.

Captain Adverse said:
It just makes me wonder, especially when evidence also seems to indicate the DNC and her campaign were also "colluding" why you guys keep hanging your hats on the collusion narrative. :confused:
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If the Dems were doing it too, justice should be done the same way it's being done to Trump's thugs.
 
MovingPictures said:
I swear some of these conservative accounts are bots -- they sound like parodies. None of them use proper grammar, they all repeat the same talking points they get from Breitbart/FOX almost verbatim, and they are devoid of any reason whatsoever.

To think these people vote.
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Not to.worry, it's illegal for.Russian trolls to vote in tbe US.
 
Rogue Valley said:
Sessions under renewed scrutiny on Capitol Hill



Methinks Trumps little weasel - Jeff Sessions - has some explaining to do.
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Session is up for perjury there's no doubt about it. I think Jeff Sessions is going to be removed fairly quickly.

As you remember there were accusations that Jeff Sessions lied under oath during his senate confirmation hearing. Everyone went along well he must have misunderstood the question. We know now that he did in fact lie, and he's told one lie after another ever since.



After this we found out that Jeff Sessions did meet twice with the Russian ambassador, and he was asked (after he got caught) if he had spoke about the Trump campaign. He said NO that wasn't what the meeting was about and the Trump campaign was never discussed.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/jeff-s...h-russian-envoy-during-presidential-campaign/

Then this comes out:

"Russia’s ambassador to Washington told his superiors in Moscow that he discussed campaign-related matters, including policy issues important to Moscow, with Jeff Sessions during the 2016 presidential race, contrary to public assertions by the embattled attorney general, according to current and former U.S. officials.

Ambassador Sergey Kislyak’s accounts of two conversations with Sessions — then a top foreign policy adviser to Republican candidate Donald Trump — were intercepted by U.S. spy agencies, which monitor the communications of senior Russian officials in the United States and in Russia. Sessions initially failed to disclose his contacts with Kislyak and then said that the meetings were not about the Trump campaign.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...77740635e83_story.html?utm_term=.1151a75d0330

And it wasn't just George Papadopoulos that testified about this meeting. Carter Page who has been of top interest since the beginning of this investigation, also stated that he shook Sessions hand, introduced himself as a Trump aid, and told him he was going to Russia the following week.

Former Trump foreign policy adviser Carter Page privately testified Thursday that he mentioned to Jeff Sessions he was traveling to Russia during the 2016 presidential campaign — as new questions emerge about the attorney general's comments to Congress about Russia and the Trump campaign.

During more than six hours of closed-door testimony, Page said that he informed Sessions about his coming July 2016 trip to Russia, which Page told CNN was unconnected to his campaign role. Page described the conversation to CNN after he finished talking to the House intelligence committee.
Sessions' discussion with Page will fuel further scrutiny about what the attorney general knew about connections between the Trump campaign and Russia — and communications about Russia that he did not disclose despite a persistent line of questioning in three separate hearings this year.
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Carter Page testifies he told Sessions about Russia trip - CNNPolitics

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Captain Adverse said:
All Session's has to do is stick to his original story.

Just because there is a picture of this Popadopoulas sitting at a table, does not mean he either briefed them on Russia, or briefed them on his attempts to talk to some contact named "professor."

Meanwhile, let's for argument's sake agree that he might have mentioned this during this (or any) meeting. It is so minor a side issue, why would anyone be expected to remember it?

Ask yourselves the same question about things which may have been brought up at some meeting that you either didn't care about, felt didn't concern you, or dismissed as unimportant.

Can you honestly say you remember everything ever said about everything ever brought up at every meeting you attended?

Or are you willing to admit at the very least, only those things you felt were important...and even then only what stuck with you about that issue?

I'm going to wait until event's unfold. IMO it is still a big "nothing-burger with who cares sauce." :coffeepap:
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So you are saying Sessions has memory issues? Perhaps it's dementia. Ya that's the ticket, it's not his fault for not remembering that he had to veto a Trump visit to Russia to see Putin when Trump himself would not. That is what happened at that meeting and Sessions did not commit perjury only if he is mentally disabled or how about temporarily insane?
 
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Floridafan said:
Plain and simple, Sessions lied to Congress, which in itself is a felony. And this man is supposed to be the chief law enforcement officer in this country. Every single one of Trump appointees is rotten through and through
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Amen to that!

And why is that? I suspect it's because his cohorts are businessmen, and business at that level is as rotten to the core as they are. And in turn, why is this? Because business influences government to where government no longer keeps business in check.

And now a minority of voters, through the vagaries of the Electoral College, have finally put business in charge of government!

And voila`, this is the not unexpected result. And it's not going to get better, if left unchecked!
 
Here is some quotes and URLs from a number of sources on the Sessions lying issue:

“The good news for Sessions is that he can plausibly claim to have opposed any Russian collusion,” writes the New Republic‘s Jeet Heer. “The bad news is that, in making those claims, he opens himself up to charges of perjury.”


From October 18, 2017 Senate Judiciary Hearing (oversight hearing)

Franken: “You don’t believe that surrogates from the Trump campaign had communications with the Russians?”

Sessions: “I did not — and I’m not aware of anyone else that did. I don’t believe that it happened,”

This is from the Oct. 18, 2017 hearing and is perhaps the most clear lie that Sessions told under oath.

Sessions was present at the March meeting with Papadopoulos in which Papadopoulos said he could arrange a meeting between Putin and Trump according to the Papadopoulos' legal plea document. (Note this is documented.)

According to sources, Sessions spoke up at this meeting saying this should not be discussed.

Regardless of your belief in the "sources", it is unlikely that Sessions forgot this meeting. Ergo, he lied.



Oh! Sessions suddenly remembers what he couldn't recall in his testimony. Appears the threat of perjury jogged his memory.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/11/jeff-sessions-george-papadopoulos-russia

Now, however, Sessions has reportedly changed his tune. Citing a source familiar with Sessions’s thinking, NBC News reported on Thursday that the attorney general—who served as a top Trump surrogate and headed the then-presidential hopeful’s national security team—does in fact recall rejecting George Papadopoulos’s offer to arrange a meeting between Trump and Putin, after the Republican candidate stopped short of ruling out the idea.

“The March 31 comments by this Papadopoulos person did not leave a lasting impression,” the source told NBC News. “As far as Sessions seemed to be concerned, when he shut down this idea of Papadopoulos engaging with Russia, that was the end of it and he moved the meeting along to other issues.” The source added that Papadopoulos was viewed by those in attendance “as someone who didn't have a lot of credibility.”



What’s amazing about this is that someone in the Trump administration is pitching this clear evidence of Sessions’s perjury as an alibi against what seems like proof of collusion. The “vehement” opposition to a meeting with Putin that Sessions allegedly expressed makes it much harder to argue that he had no recollection of surrogates talking to the Russians. And they’re hardly doing the president a huge favor in portraying him as open to the idea. Who are they trying to protect?
https://washingtonmonthly.com/2017/11/01/trumps-defense-is-that-sessions-perjured-himself/
 
I went to Fox News' website to see if they are covering this story. For those of you who won't believe anything unless Breitbart, Fox, or some other conservative news outlet publishes it, here is a link.

Senate Dems demand Sessions clarify testimony on Russia | Fox News

And here is an excerpt:

Senate Democrats want Attorney General Jeff Sessions to testify before Congress about why he failed to disclose a March 2016 meeting with then-candidate Donald Trump and members of his campaign team in which an adviser allegedly offered to set up a meeting between the president and Vladimir Putin.

Sessions' attendance at the meeting was revealed in court documents released Monday by special prosecutor Robert Mueller. The documents seem to show George Papadopoulos was the adviser who offered to set up the meeting. Papadopoulos pleaded guilty this week to lying to federal investigators.

Sessions has been quiet on his involvement at the session, despite being asked about it multiple times during several appearances on Capitol Hill.

A source familiar with the meeting told Fox News that it “seems clear that the people who remember the conversation believed that Papadopoulos was proposing a prospective idea of using his ‘Russian contacts’ to try to set up a meeting between Trump and Putin, which was immediately rejected by then-Senator Sessions.”


Of course, Fox doesn't mention perjury or lying. Instead they refer to it as Sessions being quiet.
 
RedFishBlueFish said:
Here is some quotes and URLs from a number of sources on the Sessions lying issue:

“The good news for Sessions is that he can plausibly claim to have opposed any Russian collusion,” writes the New Republic‘s Jeet Heer. “The bad news is that, in making those claims, he opens himself up to charges of perjury.”


From October 18, 2017 Senate Judiciary Hearing (oversight hearing)

Franken: “You don’t believe that surrogates from the Trump campaign had communications with the Russians?”

Sessions: “I did not — and I’m not aware of anyone else that did. I don’t believe that it happened,”

This is from the Oct. 18, 2017 hearing and is perhaps the most clear lie that Sessions told under oath.

Sessions was present at the March meeting with Papadopoulos in which Papadopoulos said he could arrange a meeting between Putin and Trump according to the Papadopoulos' legal plea document. (Note this is documented.)

According to sources, Sessions spoke up at this meeting saying this should not be discussed.

Regardless of your belief in the "sources", it is unlikely that Sessions forgot this meeting. Ergo, he lied.



Oh! Sessions suddenly remembers what he couldn't recall in his testimony. Appears the threat of perjury jogged his memory.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/11/jeff-sessions-george-papadopoulos-russia

Now, however, Sessions has reportedly changed his tune. Citing a source familiar with Sessions’s thinking, NBC News reported on Thursday that the attorney general—who served as a top Trump surrogate and headed the then-presidential hopeful’s national security team—does in fact recall rejecting George Papadopoulos’s offer to arrange a meeting between Trump and Putin, after the Republican candidate stopped short of ruling out the idea.

“The March 31 comments by this Papadopoulos person did not leave a lasting impression,” the source told NBC News. “As far as Sessions seemed to be concerned, when he shut down this idea of Papadopoulos engaging with Russia, that was the end of it and he moved the meeting along to other issues.” The source added that Papadopoulos was viewed by those in attendance “as someone who didn't have a lot of credibility.”



What’s amazing about this is that someone in the Trump administration is pitching this clear evidence of Sessions’s perjury as an alibi against what seems like proof of collusion. The “vehement” opposition to a meeting with Putin that Sessions allegedly expressed makes it much harder to argue that he had no recollection of surrogates talking to the Russians. And they’re hardly doing the president a huge favor in portraying him as open to the idea. Who are they trying to protect?
https://washingtonmonthly.com/2017/11/01/trumps-defense-is-that-sessions-perjured-himself/
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Thanks for collating this.

How this guy (Sssions) cannot be charged with perjury, is beyond me. He could only get away with this crap with a GOP controlled Congress and investigation committees.

But there's a really funky irony here: If Sessions gets booted, Trump gets to pick the next guy who's Mueller's boss! I definitely don't like that idea.

So what a mess! Trump hasn't drained the swamp at all, but has made it a cesspool. An honest to god cesspool.
 
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