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San Juan Mayor Carmen Yulin Cruz to Trump: You Can’t Handle the Truth

holbritter said:
That's bs. There were 1000 people there already working from that contract.
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1000 people are you kidding?

And if they work for that company how long have they worked and what experience do they have?

1000 is not even close to enough particularly using temps and not owning any equipment.
 
Kal'Stang said:
Amazing how much people don't know about what is actually going on. Instead they rely on "news" that supports their bias and affirms their hatred, never actually looking around for the answers.
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I guarantee no one in this thread railing on the topic, including the OP, has ever bothered to check to see what's actually happening there, nor do they have the slightest notion how to tackle a technical problem such as this one. They don't know what the scope of the problem is, they don't know what's needed to correct it, and they don't even care to know, and thus they could not possibly have any idea what they're talking about.
 
GDViking said:
1000 people are you kidding?

And if they work for that company how long have they worked and what experience do they have?

1000 is not even close to enough particularly using temps and not owning any equipment.
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I'm going to ignore your straw man until YOU answer all the questions you've been asked. You are misinformed and just won't admit it.
 
GDViking said:
1000 people are you kidding?

And if they work for that company how long have they worked and what experience do they have?

1000 is not even close to enough particularly using temps and not owning any equipment.
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How many is enough? Specifically? And how do you arrive at your answer? Again, specifically?
 
Rogue Valley said:
San Juan Mayor Carmen Yulin Cruz to Trump: You Can’t Handle the Truth



Amen. You can bet a Trump/Pence red state such as Indiana would not be without power for two months.

Related: Neither states nor nations, Puerto Rico and Virgin Islands face rocky storm recovery
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If you are going to post this kind of garbage at least find an honestly titled article.

The title says the Mayor said Trump can't handle the truth, but in the article she ACTUALLY said the Trump administration can't handle the truth.

That is a huge difference. You direct this at Trump personally when he probably had nothing to do with cancelling the meeting.
 
holbritter said:
List of 'demands'? What does suspending the Jones Act for 4 years have to do with getting power back? And what does education reform have to do with getting power back?

Why is it this administrations fault they are so behind in everything? Why weren't the demanding better education and healthcare anytime within the last few years? And just what is Trump personally supposed to do about the power? They had 1000 people there working on it last week, that are now gone, because of why? Nothing to do with Trump.

I feel for the people there, but help us help you.

These are questions I'd ask the demanding mayor.
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It appears Haiti was much more important when they got hit with an earthquake.

Where are all the charity organizations that helped Haiti now?

I am sure foundations like Hillary's have some money left to help.
 
Harshaw said:
That's hardly specific. But hey, how much manpower is there now, how many supplies have been delivered, and specifically how much more of each is needed?
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There is enough manpower there now.

The resident there can help rebuild their home.
 
Rogue Valley said:
Not giving out a $300 million contract to a Trump-cabinet connected 2-man shell company would be a good place to start.
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OK, well they can do that 100 times a day. How does that help anybody do anything?
 
reinoe said:
The government of Puerto Rico wants the U.S. government to do it for free. And that's fine but its going to be slow going and the people of P.R. are just going to have to accept that you get what you pay for. They had a private organization doing the work and that private organization had over a thousand employees doing the job. That private organization pulled out of PR. So there ya go.
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When the floods hit Texas and Florida the residents of those areas helped out as much as they could.

It seems like PR is waiting for outside people to come in and do all the work with them sitting around doing nothing.
 
Harshaw said:
I asked you before, and you did not answer: what, specifically, should they be doing that they are not doing?
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There should be a massive effort -- equivalent to a military operation. Just as an example of the mismanagement, the hospital ship Comfort arrived in early October (at the insistence of Hillary Clinton). It was moored off-shore seeing about 6-7 patients a day. Just yesterday, someone had the brilliant idea to move it to the dock -- then, it was able to treat 700 patients a day.
 
GDViking said:
1000 people are you kidding?

And if they work for that company how long have they worked and what experience do they have?

1000 is not even close to enough particularly using temps and not owning any equipment.
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How many people live in PR?

Why aren't they working to restore their own electricity?
 
Mason66 said:
When the floods hit Texas and Florida the residents of those areas helped out as much as they could.

It seems like PR is waiting for outside people to come in and do all the work with them sitting around doing nothing.
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In TX and FL there were 20,000 utility workers from all over the country.
 
She prolongs the suffering of her constituents by politicking in anticipation of her run for governor in 2020 instead of carrying out her duties. She’s been nothing but an impediment to progress for the people she serves.
 
MTAtech said:
There should be a massive effort -- equivalent to a military operation. Just as an example of the mismanagement, the hospital ship Comfort arrived in early October (at the insistence of Hillary Clinton). It was moored off-shore seeing about 6-7 patients a day. Just yesterday, someone had the brilliant idea to move it to the dock -- then, it was able to treat 700 patients a day.
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What was the reason is was moored off-shore and not in the dock the moment it arrived?
 
MTAtech said:
There should be a massive effort -- equivalent to a military operation. Just as an example of the mismanagement, the hospital ship Comfort arrived in early October (at the insistence of Hillary Clinton). It was moored off-shore seeing about 6-7 patients a day. Just yesterday, someone had the brilliant idea to move it to the dock -- then, it was able to treat 700 patients a day.
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"Massive effort" does not answer the question of what, specifically, they should be doing that they are not doing.
 
MTAtech said:
In TX and FL there were 20,000 utility workers from all over the country.
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Exactly. Do you think in the millions of PR residents, there is nobody capable of helping out in that job?
 
Mason66 said:
Exactly. Do you think in the millions of PR residents, there is nobody capable of helping out in that job?
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Who says that they aren't? I think that it is obvious that all the available electrical workers are working overtime but thousands more are needed sue to the massive damage.

I think that the narrative that Puerto Ricans are sitting around unoccupied, waiting for others to do for them, is a false narrative.
 
holbritter said:
List of 'demands'? What does suspending the Jones Act for 4 years have to do with getting power back? And what does education reform have to do with getting power back?

Why is it this administrations fault they are so behind in everything? Why weren't the demanding better education and healthcare anytime within the last few years? And just what is Trump personally supposed to do about the power? They had 1000 people there working on it last week, that are now gone, because of why? Nothing to do with Trump.

I feel for the people there, but help us help you.

These are questions I'd ask the demanding mayor.
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Lowers the costs of shipping materials and other goods to PR.
The recovery, building new housing, electrical grids, and other infrastructure will continue for quite some time.
 
Harshaw said:
Look, I'm not interested in the vague. The charge is that the Trump admin is purposely allowing the chaos to continue. Map the correct plan that, presumably, would have been implemented in Indiana, as the OP says, but isn't in Puerto Rico. Like I said: specifics. Details.
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How about hiring a team to specifically assess what is needed. How are any of us going to know the exact requirements? If I say they need a million cases of bottled water, and you say, no, it's more like 950, 400, how are we going to prove who's right? The fact is that there is a need not being met, and a response that pales in comparison to what other parts of America have received during their crisis. The first specific thing that they need to do is get someone (or, more accurately, a team of "someone's") in there to determine exactly what is needed, understanding that even a professional will have to adjust their numbers multiple times in order to address a non-static, developing situation.

One of two things is true...either, these people are not receiving the full support they need deliberately, in which case shame on the government, or this really represents the best the government can do, in which case you should all be worried, and also shame on the government.
 
Harshaw said:
"Massive effort" does not answer the question of what, specifically, they should be doing that they are not doing.
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If you are asking me for a to-do list, that's out of my expertise. However, the military and smart experts who do this for a living, know what to do. It just seems to me this should be a top priority of the U.S. government and it's not getting the attention it needs.
 
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