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After New York attack, Trump calls for ending 'Diversity Visa Lottery Program'

For 8 years we heard from the far right and the morons in the Con media that Obama was a divider. Trump is 100 times worse. All he does is divide and kiss up to he drooling racist base.

But nothing but silence from the GOP.

The GOP IS nothing but a disgusting, ball less bunch.
 
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Why? because he didn't kill anybody before then?
Yes, that's the problem with identifying the nutcases from the rest.

How do you know this nice guy didn't help create more fine young people?

We don't. I don't see your point.
 
I’d rather have more productive Iranians in the US than letting in an unskilled Uzbek. Somehow the US will get by and be inclusive without the contributions of Uzbek society.


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I don't think it is bad either. I just don't see a benefit in it and wonder why we create programs to foster it. I think people can handle diversification without any help from government.

Good grief.

Is your point that diversity is dumb...or that we don't need a government sponsored program for it?
 
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We don't. I don't see your point.
The point is, a person who is radical, will try to teach his radical ideas to others, before sacrificing himself.
 
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I hadn't know the Gang of 8 did away with it already. Did Schumer also usher it in beforehand?

Dunno but Bush Sr signed the original law.
 
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We get it. You conservatives and libertarians have a disdain for those other than white. This is how they show it.

you will never get your white utopian dream. Why even fight it?

Wherever did you get that silly notion from?
 
I’d rather have more productive Iranians in the US than letting in an unskilled Uzbek. Somehow the US will get by and be inclusive without the contributions of Uzbek society.


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Well, that would be the problem, right? This is knee jerk. For example, because of the Islamic Revolution in Iran and the later Hostage Crisis, the anti-Iranian mood in the U.S. was so high that many Iranians changed their names, went by "Persian," or moved to create small communities for security. It didn't matter that these Iranians were fleeing what Americans were angry about. It didn't matter that the first wave of the exodus carried between thirty and forty billion dollars to the United States. In 2000, Iran reported that self-exiled Iranians had invested between two and four hundred billion dollars in the United States, Europe, and some in China, but next to nothing in Iran. This was measure not only in cash, but in educational capital. Many of Tehran University's graduates haul ass to the U.S. for economic and social opportunity. Their individual success benefits the U.S., not Iran.


The problem with knee jerking over an incident is that it makes us wrong-headed. In the case of Iran, hurting Iran means that we should be encouraging Iranian immigration. In terms of Uzbek, we don't know who we are going to get from around the world. For all we know, there's an Uzbekian university student who will one day be the next Einstein. This nobody in Uzbek is to be denied access because a turd entered the U.S. eight years ago and only now has decided to worship IS? Uzbek or France or the UK gets to benefit instead?
 
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The point is, a person who is radical, will try to teach his radical ideas to others, before sacrificing himself.

Not necessarily true at all. I doubt this moron had any disciples. But I still don't see what your point is.
 
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Wherever did you get that silly notion from?


Let's not kid ourselves. libertarians are nothing more than jaded conservatives. Tell me, when did you switch from Con to libertarian? Was it during Bush or the multiple GOP let downs during the Obama years? Trump? :p
 
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Let's not kid ourselves. libertarians are nothing more than jaded conservatives. Tell me, when did you switch from Con to libertarian? Was it during Bush or the multiple GOP let downs during the Obama years? Trump? :p

Actually I switched from democrat - I come from a heavily union family - to libertarian a couple of years after getting out of college. That would be 1985 + or - a year or two. I was never, and don't now consider myself, a conservative in the modern sense of the word.
 
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Are you referring to Trump supporters standing in the way of the displacement of American ways & culture of course you are.
No, Trumplicans only want the displacement of decency, rights, intellect and freedom, because they are rellt too stupid to grasp what they advocate and I am indeed agains that.

I know you & like thinking members of the leftist islamic alliance
Spare me your moronic labeling. Read a book instead.
 
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President Trump will end the Diversity Visa Lottery then the Democrats will sue him using a friendly judge get an injunction while it is drug through the courts. We all know that the Democrats just hate anything to make this country safer.
 
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Not necessarily true at all. I doubt this moron had any disciples. But I still don't see what your point is.

lol...of course...
 
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It's curious that he didn't ban guns in a snit when the Nevada shooter killed ten times as many people...
 
For 8 years we heard from the far right and the morons in the Con media that Obama was a divider. Trump is 100 times worse. All he does is divide and kiss up to he drooling racist base.

But nothing but silence from the GOP.

The GOP IS nothing but a disgusting, ball less bunch.

no, all you can argue is that the GOP is no better than you are. You certainly can't say you are better. You sat quiet while Obama divided the country because at days end you got what you wanted(see socialized healthcare, the gay agenda and climate change). So you said nothing. Now Trump is dividing the country but the GOP is getting what THEY want, so they say nothing.

My point is you have the exact number of balls the GOP has. how many was that again?
 
Well, that would be the problem, right? This is knee jerk. For example, because of the Islamic Revolution in Iran and the later Hostage Crisis, the anti-Iranian mood in the U.S. was so high that many Iranians changed their names, went by "Persian," or moved to create small communities for security. It didn't matter that these Iranians were fleeing what Americans were angry about. It didn't matter that the first wave of the exodus carried between thirty and forty billion dollars to the United States. In 2000, Iran reported that self-exiled Iranians had invested between two and four hundred billion dollars in the United States, Europe, and some in China, but next to nothing in Iran. This was measure not only in cash, but in educational capital. Many of Tehran University's graduates haul ass to the U.S. for economic and social opportunity. Their individual success benefits the U.S., not Iran.


The problem with knee jerking over an incident is that it makes us wrong-headed. In the case of Iran, hurting Iran means that we should be encouraging Iranian immigration. In terms of Uzbek, we don't know who we are going to get from around the world. For all we know, there's an Uzbekian university student who will one day be the next Einstein. This nobody in Uzbek is to be denied access because a turd entered the U.S. eight years ago and only now has decided to worship IS? Uzbek or France or the UK gets to benefit instead?

You still equate the country and not the merit of the individual. There are visas for temporary study in US universities, this isn’t what this person had. What qualifications did this person have to merit permanent residence with a green card? Einstein had merits, not untapped merits.


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It's curious that he didn't ban guns in a snit when the Nevada shooter killed ten times as many people...

errr...:roll:
 
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Those productive immigrants often come to this country as refugees.

Yes but a country does not always need them. Different economics, different demographic issues, different employment opportunitie available...or not.
 
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France or the UK can have such great potential.
 
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It's curious that he didn't ban guns in a snit when the Nevada shooter killed ten times as many people...

that's not legal and the comparison sucks because isn't trying to ban all immigrants, only the ones who want to murder us.
 
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Trump is not only politicizing a tragedy, but he's doing it with lies. Schumer was part of Gang of 8 who did away w/ Diversity Visa Program.

oops...it seems this diversity lottery is NOT "did away w/"
 
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