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Mueller team won battle to force testimony from lawyer for Manafort and Gates

Cardinal said:
What paper? Can you link to it?
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You should try keeping up with events.
not my job to educate you.

still waiting for you to back up your trump colluded claims you have been shouting for months yet so
far from this investigation we have nothing.

since you refuse to cite anything i see no reason too.
 
cuban smokes said:
Trump has loooooooooooooooong been suspected himself (by very good evidence) of money laundering & supporting money laundering activities

I for one cannot wait until the point in time comes that Trump & his complete entourage of criminal jackasses comes completely crashing down over the electorate & the nation

it will be a glorious day when this bastard eats **** and fades into the prison cell of history ..............
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Where is this ( by very good evidence) you speak of. I’ve heard lots of opinions on MSM from their guest, but not one bit of real evidence, could you explain this evidence. CNN isn’t evidence.


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Cardinal said:
Has somebody suggested otherwise?
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imho, Trump said otherwise when he denied the collusion.

Americans have learned that when Trump denies something, that thing is a true thing.

I had wondered about whether or not Trump was a willing accomplice or a unwitting puppet.
His denial has convinced me he was a witting puppet.

Obviously, others mmv
 
Chomsky said:
FYI -

Earlier this year a guy who writes golf books made a claim of playing golf with one of Trump's sons at the height of the recent real estate & economic crash. When the son was bragging about building a new golf course, the writer inquired as to how the Trump's could do this when no one was lending. Trump's kid replied that they had access to over a $100M from wealthy Russian investors, and there was more if they wanted.

You might be able to Google this for more info, and I make no claims as to it's accuracy. I seem to recall the writer came forward maybe in March or May. Cable news and some internet sources carried it. I saw it referred to on CNN, I believe.
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I goggled it.
A Day (And A Cheeseburger) With President Trump May 05, 2017

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James Dodson has played golf since childhood. As a reporter and author he’s won numerous awards for his writing about the game, and he has been associated with many of golf’s greats. He co-wrote Arnold Palmer’s memoir.
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And when I first met him, I asked him how he was — you know, this is the journalist in me — I said, 'What are you using to pay for these courses?' And he just sort of tossed off that he had access to $100 million."

"So when I got in the cart with Eric," Dodson says, "as we were setting off, I said, 'Eric, who’s funding? I know no banks — because of the recession, the Great Recession — have touched a golf course. You know, no one’s funding any kind of golf construction. It’s dead in the water the last four or five years.' And this is what he said. He said, 'Well, we don’t rely on American banks. We have all the funding we need out of Russia.' I said, 'Really?' And he said, 'Oh, yeah. We’ve got some guys that really, really love golf, and they’re really invested in our programs. We just go there all the time.' Now that was [a little more than] three years ago, so it was pretty interesting."

Well, yeah. It is. (Update: Eric Trump has denied saying this about Russia.)
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ludin said:
over half his lawyer staff support both clinton and obama.
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Cardinal said:
That's an interesting claim. Can you support that?
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It'd be nice to support the relevance of the assertion too.

Just because you think one politician is less horrible than another (or some others) doesn't mean you would be willing to overlook felonies on their behalf.

ludin, if you were a criminal investigator, would you overlook felonies committed by a politician you supported?
 
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Cardinal said:
Don't laugh. There's a theory that Trump may be aware of his lying and believe his lies simultaneously.
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Reminds me of a Pacino line from Scarface “Even when I lie, I tell the truth”
 
MrShangles said:
Where is this ( by very good evidence) you speak of. I’ve heard lots of opinions on MSM from their guest, but not one bit of real evidence, could you explain this evidence. CNN isn’t evidence.


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people can hide their heads in the sand like a proverbial ostrich; doesn't matter to me

many can get slapped straight up side their ****ing heads & they will still say, "wow, that felt great."

what is your excuse?????????????


https://newrepublic.com/article/143...ses-dirty-money-international-crime-syndicate


https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/08/21/trumps-business-of-corruption





 
cuban smokes said:
people can hide their heads in the sand like a proverbial ostrich; doesn't matter to me

many can get slapped straight up side their ****ing heads & they will still say, "wow, that felt great."

what is your excuse?????????????


https://newrepublic.com/article/143...ses-dirty-money-international-crime-syndicate


https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/08/21/trumps-business-of-corruption





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Like I said, just opinions , no proof, if there was proof, he would be in jail by now.
Keep trying, maybe one day y’all could find something.


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MrShangles said:
Like I said, just opinions , no proof, if there was proof, he would be in jail by now.
Keep trying, maybe one day y’all could find something.


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wow, feels great, doesn't it?
 
Simon W. Moon said:
ludin, if you were a criminal investigator, would you overlook felonies committed by a politician you supported?
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Well, that depends on how big a partisan hack one is and history shows that there are examples of both, people with integrity and people without any. On an anonymous interned board all we have to go by are one's posts and when one will excuse any and all deeds and lies by one's leader, it is easy to draw a fair conclusion.
 
cuban smokes said:
wow, feels great, doesn't it?
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It does, to have a President that loves this country for a change, don’t you think that is one thing we can agree on as Americans, even if you don’t like him, he is America first you can’t deny that.


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MrShangles said:
It does, to have a President that loves this country for a change, don’t you think that is one thing we can agree on as Americans, even if you don’t like him, he is America first you can’t deny that.


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Trump only loves himself. He is Trump first, Trump second, Trump third etc. and everybody and everything else is not even in the top one hundred.
 
haymarket said:
Trump only loves himself. He is Trump first, Trump second, Trump third etc. and everybody and everything else is not even in the top one hundred.
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You gotta stop watching CNN.
Stock market in record levels,
Consumer confidence at highest level in years.
No TPP
no Paris accord
Counties starting to pay their way at the UN
So what are you blabbing about


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MrShangles said:
It does, to have a President that loves this country for a change, don’t you think that is one thing we can agree on as Americans, even if you don’t like him, he is America first you can’t deny that.


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what YOU and other so called Trump supporters fail to admit is your POTUS is a con man, a criminal, and a huge POS ................ have a nice day ...............
 
MrShangles said:
You gotta stop watching CNN.
Stock market in record levels,
Consumer confidence at highest level in years.
No TPP
no Paris accord
Counties starting to pay their way at the UN
So what are you blabbing about


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Can you tell me what new policies and programs Trump implemented that caused the Stock Market to hit todays levels?
 
MrShangles said:
You gotta stop watching CNN.
Stock market in record levels,
Consumer confidence at highest level in years.
No TPP
no Paris accord
Counties starting to pay their way at the UN
So what are you blabbing about


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Tell us about all the legislation Trump promised us and failed miserably. Not a single piece of policy.
 
Floridafan said:
Tell us about all the legislation Trump promised us and failed miserably. Not a single piece of policy.
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Trump talks a LOT of **** but the fact remains; many voters fell for Trump's bull****, all while he stated HRC isn't trust worthy ........... LOL ..........
 
haymarket said:
Can you tell me what new policies and programs Trump implemented that caused the Stock Market to hit todays levels?
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don't hold your breath; guy aint gonna tell US **** ................
 
Simon W. Moon said:
imho, Trump said otherwise when he denied the collusion.

Americans have learned that when Trump denies something, that thing is a true thing.

I had wondered about whether or not Trump was a willing accomplice or a unwitting puppet.
His denial has convinced me he was a witting puppet.

Obviously, others mmv
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Like Reagan. I do think a lot of underhanded politics is done by the lifetime professional politicians of both parties. The Puppet in Chief is only notified after it is successful or when heads start to roll. They protect the crown while they take the fall. Most never fall very far and their is millions to be made off corruption afterwards with book deals and such.
 
cuban smokes said:
Trump talks a LOT of **** but the fact remains; many voters fell for Trump's bull****, all while he stated HRC isn't trust worthy ........... LOL ..........
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The same Hillary that hallucinates over snipers shooting at her. The same Hillary that has been bribed I mean paid by all the rich and powerful to listen to her wisdom. It seems since she will not be President nobody wants to pay to listen to her wisdom or bribe her whichever you want to believe.
 
PIPEWRENCH said:
The same Hillary that hallucinates over snipers shooting at her. The same Hillary that has been bribed I mean paid by all the rich and powerful to listen to her wisdom. It seems since she will not be President nobody wants to pay to listen to her wisdom or bribe her whichever you want to believe.
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That's fine by me; I didn't vote for HRC, nor for Trump**** ...............
 
cuban smokes said:
That's fine by me; I didn't vote for HRC, nor for Trump**** ...............
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Tough choice last election. Throw your vote away, choose between bought and paid for Hillary, or Trump. I still think trump was the better choice. It would really be nice to have a candidate funded by the people who will work for the people to vote or one election. I know dream on.
 
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