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Brother of Clinton campaign chair steps down from lobbying firm amid reports of scrutiny from specia

jmotivator said:
The statue is owned by Podesta and bears a resemblance to a photo taken by Dahmer of one of his posed victims. The other paintings in that article are by an artist that Podesta likes, and he has two of her paintings hanging in his home, but in his painting the girls are more clothed, thankfully. Here are the ones he owns:

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They are still creepy, though.
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Knowing what is likely with the elite these days, he most likely hides the more "interesting" pieces of his collection.
 
Oborosen said:
Knowing what is likely with the elite these days, he most likely hides the more "interesting" pieces of his collection.
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Probably.
 
eohrnberger said:
"did not register as Foreign agents" Hmm. Same thing that Flynn was, or is assumed to have been, guilty of.

From what I've heard reported, filing the needed paperwork even years later is generally accepted by the DOJ to clear this particular charge up.

I wonder if that's going to be the case here.
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There have been many charged with the crime in the past but few were convicted. I think it is important to understand in a Grand Jury setting, the prosecutor presents his case to the jury. They tell the jury it is a crime to not register as a Foreign agent when lobbying for a foreign government. But he does not tell the jury that it is seldom upheld in the courts when the person files the proper paperwork even years later. So of course a grand jury will indict on the charge because it is illegal not to register.

A problem with this case is it involves the largest most powerful lobby firms in Washington. They parade their clients who they have registered as non-profit organizations with touchy feely names, oh say for things like human rights etc. through the halls of Congress and high officials in the administration to peddle influence for their "cause" when in fact these people are directly working for a foreign government. It's a real problem that needs to be cleaned up.

Another crime that doesn't often end with a conviction is lying to Congress when giving testimony. It comes with a stiff fine or up to 5 years in prison or both if convicted but it is very seldom pursued.

Maybe it is time to start making an example of those who willfully break the laws to send a message. Why in the heck have laws if you don't enforce them.
 
jmotivator said:
The statue is owned by Podesta and bears a resemblance to a photo taken by Dahmer of one of his posed victims. The other paintings in that article are by an artist that Podesta likes, and he has two of her paintings hanging in his home, but in his painting the girls are more clothed, thankfully. Here are the ones he owns:

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They are still creepy, though.
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Not my thing, but I don't see how it screams "pedophile."
 
Oborosen said:
https://www.sott.net/article/334002-Progressive-liberal-values-Tony-Podestas-creepy-taste-in-art-the-creepy-people-he-hangs-out-with-and-Pizzagate

There are a few examples here, though I couldn't find just a normal listing without trolling through some of these same entries.

Podesta is eccentric to put it lightly.
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Progressive liberal values?
You read that kind of crap often?

From your link...
"What's in a shoe color? Some say a sign, a marker, of something very dark."

Trash.
 
Cardinal said:
Not my thing, but I don't see how it screams "pedophile."
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More just the fact that a 60 something year old man is drawn to paintings of teen girls by an artist known for painting pictures of sexually suggestive teen girls.

And then the statue that seems to use Dahmer victim photos and an inspiration.

Creepy.
 
Cardinal said:
Manafort isn't flipping, so Mueller is throwing every crime inside the statute of limitations at him for leverage. If he finds an overdue library book then I think it's fair to assume he'll use that as well.
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This would seem to add up, as Mueller did have to go back in history a bit to pull these charges out.

I'm pretty sure Mueller would have much rather had something far more recent, specifically during the Trump campaign.

Maybe he does. Maybe he doesn't. Guess we'll see.
 
eohrnberger said:
This would seem to add up, as Mueller did have to go back in history a bit to pull these charges out.

I'm pretty sure Mueller would have much rather had something far more recent, specifically during the Trump campaign.

Maybe he does. Maybe he doesn't. Guess we'll see.
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As long as it's inside the statute of limitations then I don't see how the date of the crime matters.
 
Cardinal said:
As long as it's inside the statute of limitations then I don't see how the date of the crime matters.
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It doesn't, but that wasn't my point anyway.

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eohrnberger said:
It doesn't, but that wasn't my point anyway.

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Was the point that it would have been ideal to find crimes that occurred during the Trump administration? Because if so, then that's missing the point.
 
vesper said:
There have been many charged with the crime in the past but few were convicted. I think it is important to understand in a Grand Jury setting, the prosecutor presents his case to the jury. They tell the jury it is a crime to not register as a Foreign agent when lobbying for a foreign government. But he does not tell the jury that it is seldom upheld in the courts when the person files the proper paperwork even years later. So of course a grand jury will indict on the charge because it is illegal not to register.

A problem with this case is it involves the largest most powerful lobby firms in Washington. They parade their clients who they have registered as non-profit organizations with touchy feely names, oh say for things like human rights etc. through the halls of Congress and high officials in the administration to peddle influence for their "cause" when in fact these people are directly working for a foreign government. It's a real problem that needs to be cleaned up.

Another crime that doesn't often end with a conviction is lying to Congress when giving testimony. It comes with a stiff fine or up to 5 years in prison or both if convicted but it is very seldom pursued.

Maybe it is time to start making an example of those who willfully break the laws to send a message. Why in the heck have laws if you don't enforce them.
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What's the famous quote? "a grand jury would 'indict a ham sandwich,' if that's what you wanted." Yeah, that.

Needs to be cleaned up? Most certainly. It's part of the DC swamp and its swamp creatures, such as lobbyists and other influence peddlers are, just as bad as the swamp that's on the hill as in the administration as well. High time to clean it up, drain it a bit.

One way to do so is to limit the amount of lobby money that DC floats on and in. Starve the beast and the swamp, as it were.
 
Cardinal said:
Was the point that it would have been ideal to find crimes that occurred during the Trump administration? Because if so, then that's missing the point.
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The point is that Mueller had to go way back in history to dig up charges. If he had dug up some more recent charges, ones specific to when Manafort was involved in the Trump campaign, wouldn't that have been more salient? More impact? In alignment with the mission of the office he was sent on?

I certainly would have made a great day for all the leftists, hell bent on destroying this president and his administration, regardless of the cost and consequences to the nation.
 
eohrnberger said:
The point is that Mueller had to go way back in history to dig up charges. If he had dug up some more recent charges, ones specific to when Manafort was involved in the Trump campaign, wouldn't that have been more salient? More impact? In alignment with the mission of the office he was sent on?
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No, because finding crimes salient to the Trump campaign wasn't the point.

eohrnberger said:
I certainly would have made a great day for all the leftists, hell bent on destroying this president and his administration, regardless of the cost and consequences to the nation.
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Sure, it would have been a crowd pleaser, no doubt. But still, it wasn't the point.
 
Cardinal said:
No, because finding crimes salient to the Trump campaign wasn't the point.



Sure, it would have been a crowd pleaser, no doubt. But still, it wasn't the point.
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Meh. Sure seem that way reading Mueller's appointment letter.

(b) The Special Counsel is authorized to conduct the investigation confirmed by then-0FBI Director James B. Comney in testimony before the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence on March 20,2017, including:
(i) any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump; and
(ii) any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation; and
(iii) any other matters within the scope of C.F.R. 600.4(a).
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive...nt-Robert-Mueller-Special-Counsel-Russia.html
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Granted, it also lists any other matters, which would be the part that gives the Special Counsel rather broad reach, but still, the #1 thing is "any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump", and so far nada on that one. :shrug:
 
Grand Mal said:
Progressive liberal values?
You read that kind of crap often?

From your link...
"What's in a shoe color? Some say a sign, a marker, of something very dark."

Trash.
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The above statement, proves that you don't read peoples post.
 
eohrnberger said:
Meh. Sure seem that way reading Mueller's appointment letter.



Granted, it also lists any other matters, which would be the part that gives the Special Counsel rather broad reach, but still, the #1 thing is "any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump", and so far nada on that one. :shrug:
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It doesn't establish that "i" has any greater priority over "ii" or "iii." But still: not the point.
 
jmotivator said:
Some did as I just did and referenced it and then I went to Google to see what they were talking about.

Here is a Washington Life article about his taste is art: http://washingtonlife.com/2015/06/05/inside-homes-private-viewing/

That statue hanging in his stairway bears a striking resemblance to a photo from Jeffery Dahmer's Polaroid collection. I won't post that here but you can look it up if you wish.

Anyway, it's creepy.
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Washington Life? Why they're named after slaveowner.

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lurchadams said:
I agree with you. For example, I am not interested in chasing after the Clintons to try to pursue any convictions. I tell myself this is true because the Clintons do not have influence any longer on governing the U.S. I will concede that my disinterest in pursuing the Clintons is partially true because I sympathize more with Democratic causes.

Similarly, I truly believe those who sympathize with Trump sometimes might be in denial any evidence that could implicate Trump or his associates in any wrongdoing.
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If your trying to say that it is easier to believe bad things about you don't like and harder when it's people you do like, than I agree with you too.

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