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George W. Bush Slams 'Bigotry,' Politics Of Populism That Led To Trump, Sanders

Hawkeye10 said:
It is really sad watching these two Bush/Obama "We reject the politics of division" even as it was their leadership that left us so divided, even though they so often practiced the politics of division. Both of these two also willfully neglected huge parts of America, the objection to that being what drove Trump to the POTUS chair. We are left to decide if these words come from ignorance or if it rather is from lies.
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So the fact that Trump has doubled down on the politics of division is lost on you?
 
truthatallcost said:
The MSM is gobbling this up with a spork. I'd like to offer this alternative headline:

Man who sent 7,000 Americans off to their deaths and profitted financially says 'haterz' have to go
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I'm curious as to what your views were when Bush was sending those 7,000 off rather than what it is today. Cause I'm absouletely positive you were pulling that lever for Al Gore... and John Kerry. amirite?
 
SenorXm/Sirius said:
Amazing. The same Cons who defending and loved Bush and refused to blame him for ANYthing bad that happened on his watch are now throwing Bsuh under the bus because he criticized their Dear Leader, Trump.

I swear if Jesus Christ himself said something critical of Trump most Trumpsters would convert to Judaism.

The hold Trump has over his supporters is cult-like. At 1 of Trump rallies in the near future the people at the rally will show up in black sneakers, robes and barrels of kool-ade.
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It's what happens when policy takes a back seat to a cult of personality.
 
I liked some things about Bush and disliked other things about the same as I do with most presidents. I feel the same about Bill Clinton.

He took the heat over Katrina and did not whimper even though he turned over FEMA to the local government as has always been done. Fortunately the storm turned East and spared tens of thousands of lives. For not evacuating those people and leaving them in harms way the mayor and the governor should have been put in prison.

I had no problem with removing Saddam Insane from power. We should be doing more of that with the help of the rest of the world. Of course nation building in the Middle East is harder than tuning lead into gold. I did not like his cowboy attitude when dealing with our allies. Of course I have no respect for a lot of our allies that support a person like Saddam Insane.

The Housing bubble was coming with or without Bush. I blame him for not stopping it. Kicking the can down the road was politics of the day then. He was too busy with 911 and nation building to see our country crumbling. The sad part is if you get away with kicking the can down the road you are a great leader. If the can stops on your watch you are a bad leader. Next time kick the can harder or become a real leader and do something.

911 was clearly a case of getting caught when the music stopped. It was never if 911 would happen but on whose watch. Our intelligence and security are still a mess. We still haven't even secured our borders yet. I am just waiting for some terrorist to sail a nuke into one of our harbors and teach us another lesson. It is only a matter of time before someone like North Korea hands off a nuke to a terrorist and points them in our direction. We will wish we had more than a wall when it happens.
 
truthatallcost said:
Just a disaster for the 7,000 dead American soldiers, and 100k dead Iraqis. But Trump 'hatez Mixicans'! He must be a worse human than Bush.
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Yup, horrendous and misguided in Iraq.


And yet *almost* without exception, right-wingers swore it was the right thing to do. Even now, probably most do.
 
poweRob said:
I'm curious as to what your views were when Bush was sending those 7,000 off rather than what it is today. Cause I'm absouletely positive you were pulling that lever for Al Gore... and John Kerry. amirite?
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I wasn't old enough to vote in that election.
 
Lursa said:
Yup, horrendous and misguided in Iraq.


And yet *almost* without exception, right-wingers swore it was the right thing to do. Even now, probably most do.
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The Invasion of Iraq (over a lie) and the preceding bumbling occupation was a complete disgrace for America...The fallout from that fiasco continues today.....That is part of W Bush's legacy
 
Saladin4 said:
W Bush seems to be "evolving" still the Disgrace of Iraq and the Financial Meltdown will stain his legacy
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Which makes it so strange that liberals have all of a sudden discover they love the guy's ideas. I guess all that out rage Liberals were expressing between 2001 and 2009 was all selective.
 
reinoe said:
Which makes it so strange that liberals have all of a sudden discover they love the guy's ideas. I guess all that out rage Liberals were expressing between 2001 and 2009 was all selective.
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Really?...Liberals "love" W Bush's ideas?.....Sure...
 
Lursa said:
Yup, horrendous and misguided in Iraq.


And yet *almost* without exception, right-wingers swore it was the right thing to do. Even now, probably most do.
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Some on this board even swear that Bush actually found WMD's in Iraq.:lol: Now that is cult like allegiance.
 
SenorXm/Sirius said:
Amazing. The same Cons who defending and loved Bush and refused to blame him for ANYthing bad that happened on his watch are now throwing Bsuh under the bus because he criticized their Dear Leader, Trump.

I swear if Jesus Christ himself said something critical of Trump most Trumpsters would convert to Judaism.

The hold Trump has over his supporters is cult-like. At 1 of Trump rallies in the near future the people at the rally will show up in black sneakers, robes and barrels of kool-ade.
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You mean the GOP establishment that was in love with the Bush all of a sudden hates Donald Trump just like liberals. Liberals have thrown away all sense of human decency in their effort to attack Trump, even when it means siding with George W. Bush who is easily the most depraved human being who has ever lived.
 
reinoe said:
You mean the GOP establishment that was in love with the Bush all of a sudden hates Donald Trump just like liberals. Liberals have thrown away all sense of human decency in their effort to attack Trump, even when it means siding with George W. Bush who is easily the most depraved human being who has ever lived.
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:lamo

Well maybe his puppetmaster, Cheney, but Bush? Surely you give him too much credit.
 
Lursa said:
Yup, horrendous and misguided in Iraq.


And yet *almost* without exception, right-wingers swore it was the right thing to do. Even now, probably most do.
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I'm amazed that people still support that war. There's a decidedly left-leaning poster on DP who defends the Bush administration to the end on that one. It cuts across party lines really. Did you see the Jimmy Kimmel interview with Dubya? It's from this year, and Kimmel can't cozy up enough to Bush. The audience even gave Bush a standing ovation.
 
truthatallcost said:
I'm amazed that people still support that war. There's a decidedly left-leaning poster on DP who defends the Bush administration to the end on that one. It cuts across party lines really. Did you see the Jimmy Kimmel interview with Dubya? It's from this year, and Kimmel can't cozy up enough to Bush. The audience even gave Bush a standing ovation.
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Probably because, looking back, we didnt realize how bad presidents could get.

It was probably applauding for "we miss you! didnt realize it but we actually miss your administration!" lol
 
Lursa said:
Wow, when I read your posts I had you pegged as a much older guy. Much.
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It's always been that way. In high school I mostly listened to older music, liked older movies. I should have been born in the 60's or something.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
It is really sad watching these two Bush/Obama "We reject the politics of division" even as it was their leadership that left us so divided, even though they so often practiced the politics of division. Both of these two also willfully neglected huge parts of America, the objection to that being what drove Trump to the POTUS chair. We are left to decide if these words come from ignorance or if it rather is from lies.
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There's an element of truth to that, but also elements of bull****. For one, republican leadership knew that the justification for the Iraq war was bull****, and that the financial crisis stemmed from President Bush 2's undermining of state regulations for subprime mortgages, they knew their president made mistakes, but doubled down out of partisanship. That was the start of this two-narratives division, one for the left, the other for the right.

Then President Obama came into office, and republican leadership chose to exploit the influence of their media, Fox News and the like, for political power by lying endlessly about virtually everything regarding President Obama.

So, you're right that it was after their presidencies that this horrible crack in American society was exposed so it could be exploited, but you're wrong to blame the presidents themselves.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
It is really sad watching these two Bush/Obama "We reject the politics of division" even as it was their leadership that left us so divided, even though they so often practiced the politics of division. Both of these two also willfully neglected huge parts of America, the objection to that being what drove Trump to the POTUS chair. We are left to decide if these words come from ignorance or if it rather is from lies.
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Just because Obama spread divisiveness doesn’t meant Bush did.even in the latter‘s administration it was more the liberals than the conservatives that did that.
 
Bush is the worst president in US history. Who cares what that clown thinks.
 
rocket88 said:
George W. Bush Slams 'Bigotry,' Politics Of Populism That Led To Trump, Sanders : NPR

"Bigotry seems emboldened," Bush said in New York at a forum put on by the George W. Bush Institute. "Our politics seems more vulnerable to conspiracy theories and outright fabrication."

Bush or Trump? Who do you love?
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I saw his speech.

Although I voted for Bush for his first term I almost immediately regretted it. I have not supported him since. He was a mistake. But you know what? Trump is so gawd awfully inept, incompetent and incapable that listening to Bush's speech I damn near came close to longing for even Bush to be president.

Bush's speech was presidential. I'll say that again. Bush's speech was presidential. It's coming up on a year since we have heard a presidential speech. Bush has more class in his little finger than Trump could ever buy. Bush, whether you liked him or not, was a leader where Trump is an stumbling fool lost in some kind of mutant narcissistic hell, contradicting himself, blaming anyone and everyone else.

Good on Bush for his speech. It was to be honest, refreshing.
 
Saladin4 said:
Say What?...Iraq was a success?...The Financial Meltdown was okay?...Please explain, that should be worth some laughs.GO!
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I never claimed that strawman. But it's certainly had to hang those on Bush. Especially the financial meltdown with causes and problems that started long before Bush and even still were not fixed by Obama. As for Iraq that was a whole nation thing and despite it being so "unpopular" still managed to continue through all 8 years of Obama. In the long run Bush will be remembered as the compassionate conservative who tried to strengthen the schools, expand medicare, cut taxes and care for veterans long after they came home.
 
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