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Trump to widow of Sgt. La David Johnson: 'He knew what he signed up for'

danarhea said:
Oh! My! God! This call was made as the mother was at the flag-draped casket of her son, and caused her to break down and cry uncontrollably. She has now stopped crying. Her sadness has been replaced with much deserved anger.

Maybe Trump should stop listening to people saying that the doesn't call the families of dead service members, and just not call them.

This is a much different Donald Trump than the one who did interviews back in the 1990's. This is just an empty shell of what used to be a pretty intelligent guy.

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So again hear say is mindlessly implied to be fact. With condolences it is always difficult to catch the right ton. The words are widely less important. And in this case the words are not at all insensitive in pointing out that the fellow signed up to a deadly job and that the reality is not easier for knowing it.
 
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reinoe said:
What did Trump say that was factually incorrect? But this isn't the first time someone used the bones of their dead child to build a soapbox to spew their political agenda.
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And what was Trump using those bones for all these weeks later?
 
joG said:
So again hear say is mindlessly implied to be fact. With condolences it is always difficult to catch the right ton. The words are widely less important. And in this case the words are not at all insensitive in pointing out that the fellow signed up to a deadly job and that the reality is not easier for knowing it.
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LOL Please... he was saying that for HIMSELF to make himself feel better and it was the last thing a widow wanted to hear from him. All Presidents reveal their true selves in situations like this and Trump did not disappoint. Like the Sun Gods of Egypt the world revolves around him.
 
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Chomsky said:
He's too consistent at screwing-up, Vance.

Everyday is another ****-show from him, in everything he does. Never a day off.

So yeah. It gets cumulative, and you lose tolerance for him and his crap. It's not just the lies. It's the whole package. If he was harmless and good natured, I might call him a buffoon. But rather, he's a mean prick of an asshole. And then add total incompetence on top of that. He has absolutely nothing of redeeming value, and that's rare in a human being.

I hope his voters like what they got. Because no one else does.
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"Never a day off..." must be a hardship! Actually, it is.

But in this case I haven't even heard the tape. Maybe I missed it, but as far as I have sofar seen/heard the allegations are again based in hearsay but treated as fact. The words, in any event, don't seem particularly damning and are even more difficult than impossible to guage without a full transcript.
 
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I dont like how this Congresswoman is acting like a Victim Minder, first in that by her own admission she tried to get the phone so that she could insert herself with the President, and now that we are hearing from her at all. This is not her call or her place, the only one who has a right to speak is the widow, if she does not care enough to do so then I dont care.

If she was even offended, because I dont know that.
 
VanceMack said:
You very deliberately avoided answering the questions posed. This is just another excuse for a leftist ****show. When leftists are looking for every excuse to shot themselves over the man they will find it.


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trump says he is the only President call the families...trump a loud mouth liar
 
danarhea said:
Oh! My! God! This call was made as the mother was at the flag-draped casket of her son, and caused her to break down and cry uncontrollably. She has now stopped crying. Her sadness has been replaced with much deserved anger.

Maybe Trump should stop listening to people saying that the doesn't call the families of dead service members, and just not call them.

This is a much different Donald Trump than the one who did interviews back in the 1990's. This is just an empty shell of what used to be a pretty intelligent guy.

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ROFL when he was spewing Democratic talking points you say he was "pretty intelligent" :roll:

Trump has always been and always will be a buffoon or in trumpspeak a ****ing yuge baffoon
 
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Trumps narrcistic personality disorder is an extreme case. He finds it difficult, and uncomfortable to show empathy. In Trumps case, a letter to the family will suffice, at least it scripted.
 
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Kobie said:
Yeah, the real problem is with Trump's critics. Not Trump.

Do you ever get tired of carrying water for this worthless asshole? He's the worst president in American history, and it's not a close contest. He's a disgrace. And anyone who defends him is worse.
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Well, the man rips off disabled Veterans, I dont expect him to show service members family anymore respect than he has our Vets. Who's turn was it at adult day care?
 
danarhea said:
Oh! My! God! This call was made as the mother was at the flag-draped casket of her son, and caused her to break down and cry uncontrollably. She has now stopped crying. Her sadness has been replaced with much deserved anger.

Maybe Trump should stop listening to people saying that the doesn't call the families of dead service members, and just not call them.

This is a much different Donald Trump than the one who did interviews back in the 1990's. This is just an empty shell of what used to be a pretty intelligent guy.

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"He knew what he signed up for...." is a compliment.

How many among you will willingly sign up to be a soldier knowing what it entails? To be sent to Africa or MidEast?
How many wives would go along with their husbands signing up to be a soldier, knowing what could happen?
ONLY THE BRAVE, WILL!

It is a compliment!


....and yet, inspite of knowing what could be the outcome of being a soldier, being human.... it still hurts when it does happens. Wives still grieve!

No matter how prepared you are about the death of a loved one.....it still hurts.
 
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danarhea said:
Oh! My! God! This call was made as the mother was at the flag-draped casket of her son, and caused her to break down and cry uncontrollably. She has now stopped crying. Her sadness has been replaced with much deserved anger.
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I’m no fan of Trump but this seems to be jumping the gun. It’s not clear how the politician knows what was said in the private phone call between the President and the widow and I’m not convinced she should be speaking publically about it anyway. It certainly smacks of the same kind of heartless political opportunism Trump himself has been legitimately accused of.

You also seem to have fallen for the common tabloid trick in this story of referring to one thing happening after another to make readers assume a causal link when there is none. There is no real connection established between the call and the (somewhat voyeuristic) reporting of her crying when her husband’s remains were returned, which would hardly be surprising regardless.

I think the quoted statement is essentially true – soldiers do go in to conflicts knowing the risks they face – and I think it’s perfectly possible to mention that in a legitimate and positive manner in this tragic context. I’m not inclined to presume Trump was insensitive without knowing exactly what was said though I don’t want to know what was said in that private conversation anyway.

There’s plenty of legitimate criticism to be made of his public statements about this incident and the wider topic without needing to spin up emotive trash like this.
 
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Grand Mal said:
"He knew what he signed up for..."? Trump really said that to a pregnant widow?
Damn. It's not so funny anymore.
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I don't know if that's actually a hurtful comment. It suggests that her husband knew the risks and that he took them anyway -- that implies he was of "hero" material.

But, the claim is actually hearsay, and, check out the ellipse in the supposed quote. What was subtracted there?
 
Saladin4 said:
trump says he is the only President call the families...trump a loud mouth liar
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Trump is certainly no gem. Your vile hatred though? Dont pretend you are any better.
 
danarhea said:
Oh! My! God! This call was made as the mother was at the flag-draped casket of her son, and caused her to break down and cry uncontrollably. She has now stopped crying. Her sadness has been replaced with much deserved anger.

Maybe Trump should stop listening to people saying that the doesn't call the families of dead service members, and just not call them.

This is a much different Donald Trump than the one who did interviews back in the 1990's. This is just an empty shell of what used to be a pretty intelligent guy.

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Trump being honest and caring is "insensitive", but Obama carefully staging a photo and sending it to all of the media outlets...after the fallen's parents asked for no media coverage...shows his compassion.


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Did anybody care what those parents felt? Obama? The media?

Nah...
 
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HowardBThiname said:
I don't know if that's actually a hurtful comment. It suggests that her husband knew the risks and that he took them anyway -- that implies he was of "hero" material.

But, the claim is actually hearsay, and, check out the ellipse in the supposed quote. What was subtracted there?
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Even Slate has backed off of their initial reporting of the incident.

“he knew what he signed up for... but when it happens it hurts anyway.”

"The “he knew what he signed up for” line sparked immediate outrage online as a callous shifting of blame from the commander-in-chief onto the dead soldier for his decision to serve. Given Trump’s penchant for utter rhetorical gracelessness in times of emotional gravity and compulsive blame-shifting for just about anything, it’s not hard to read his comments as a not my bad interjection. That’s certainly how Rep. Wilson, who apparently was present for the call, heard Trump’s words. "It's so insensitive,” Wilson told WPLG. “He should have not have said that. He shouldn't have said it." Further supporting that line of interpretation is the fact that Trump may have been feeling defensive about these particular deaths as they are among the first on his watch as president and they came during an operation that drew criticism for its execution.

In fairness to Trump, however, the question seems to be one of tone and delivery. You could imagine a previous non-Trump president saying these words in a tone of respect for the bravery of signing up for a job knowing you could die doing it. You could imagine President Obama, for instance, hugging a grieving wife and saying: “He knew what he signed up for... but when it happens it hurts anyway.” It’s less eloquent and emotionally precise than we are accustomed to hearing from Obama, but Donald Trump is, among many things, less eloquent and emotionally precise than Obama. Could it simply be a botched attempt at performative emotionality and rhetorical empathy from a man who doesn’t appear to possess much of either?"

What is glaringly obvious is that a rat politician fomented hatred during a time of condolence...and those warped by their hatred of Trump seized it and created yet another vile angry hate filled anti-Trump **** show.

For everything they say HE is...they are worse.
 
danarhea said:
Oh! My! God! This call was made as the mother was at the flag-draped casket of her son, and caused her to break down and cry uncontrollably. She has now stopped crying. Her sadness has been replaced with much deserved anger.

Maybe Trump should stop listening to people saying that the doesn't call the families of dead service members, and just not call them.

This is a much different Donald Trump than the one who did interviews back in the 1990's. This is just an empty shell of what used to be a pretty intelligent guy.

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Some people should not bother reading a news article and then making comments...especially after posting a link to the article.

1. The lady is the soldier's wife...not his mother.
2. The call was NOT made as the wife was at the casket...it was made BEFORE she met the casket at the airport.
3. There is nothing in the article that indicates the call caused her to break down and cry.

Sorry, danarhea, you don't even get to use the excuse that the article led you to believe what you said. It's all on you, buddie.
 
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VanceMack said:
Even Slate has backed off of their initial reporting of the incident.

“he knew what he signed up for... but when it happens it hurts anyway.”

"The “he knew what he signed up for” line sparked immediate outrage online as a callous shifting of blame from the commander-in-chief onto the dead soldier for his decision to serve. Given Trump’s penchant for utter rhetorical gracelessness in times of emotional gravity and compulsive blame-shifting for just about anything, it’s not hard to read his comments as a not my bad interjection. That’s certainly how Rep. Wilson, who apparently was present for the call, heard Trump’s words. "It's so insensitive,” Wilson told WPLG. “He should have not have said that. He shouldn't have said it." Further supporting that line of interpretation is the fact that Trump may have been feeling defensive about these particular deaths as they are among the first on his watch as president and they came during an operation that drew criticism for its execution.

In fairness to Trump, however, the question seems to be one of tone and delivery. You could imagine a previous non-Trump president saying these words in a tone of respect for the bravery of signing up for a job knowing you could die doing it. You could imagine President Obama, for instance, hugging a grieving wife and saying: “He knew what he signed up for... but when it happens it hurts anyway.” It’s less eloquent and emotionally precise than we are accustomed to hearing from Obama, but Donald Trump is, among many things, less eloquent and emotionally precise than Obama. Could it simply be a botched attempt at performative emotionality and rhetorical empathy from a man who doesn’t appear to possess much of either?"

What is glaringly obvious is that a rat politician fomented hatred during a time of condolence...and those warped by their hatred of Trump seized it and created yet another vile angry hate filled anti-Trump **** show.

For everything they say HE is...they are worse.
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Exactly the traits needed in a Commander/Consoler in Chief, only thing worse would be pitching her some paper towels.
 
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Rexedgar said:
Exactly the traits needed in a Commander/Consoler in Chief, only thing worse would be pitching her some paper towels.
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You ever say the wrong thing with the best of intentions? Were you a worthless asshole when you said it?

Its very telling thought that you seize on and regurgitate the vile hate fillled rhetoric. You typify the left in this country every day since 11/9/2016.

You lost your ring of power and you hates him! You hates him!!!
 
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VanceMack said:
You ever say the wrong thing with the best of intentions? Were you a worthless asshole when you said it?

Its very telling thought that you seize on and regurgitate the vile hate fillled rhetoric. You typify the left in this country every day since 11/9/2016.

You lost your ring of power and you hates him! You hates him!!!
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Everyone makes mistakes! Your boy is a daily poop storm, whether well intentioned or not! Y’alls defence of him knows no low bar!
 
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Rexedgar said:
Everyone makes mistakes! Your boy is a daily poop storm, whether well intentioned or not! Y’alls defence of him knows no low bar!
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Trump is no gem. No doubt. You? Worse.


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NIMBY said:
trump is the racist Aryan 'il duce' skkkumbag using Gen. Kelly's Son to Try yet Fail again to get back at a Real President, a Black President.

Do let us know when you catch trump telling the truth. trump's a ****ing BOIL, Blatant Outrageous Irrational Liar.

Look around at how trump deals with 'white' victims versus 'those' victims. That's your real **** show.

We need around the clock surveillance video on the Nuclear Football to protect us from trump, as told to us by trump's own cabinet ...
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Gen Kelly is a private man with his grief for his son. To throw Kelly under the bus like that, kinda scummy.
 
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yankintx said:
Gen Kelly is a private man with his grief for his son. To throw Kelly under the bus like that, kinda scummy.
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Agreed. That was scummy. This incident? You folk are dragging a dead soldier out and stomping repeatedly in his blood shrieking I HATE TRUMP!!!! You are using his death for political attack. Nothing you say about Trump could match your actions.


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VanceMack said:
You very deliberately avoided answering the questions posed. This is just another excuse for a leftist ****show. When leftists are looking for every excuse to shot themselves over the man they will find it.


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trump is an ass of monumental proportions
 
randel said:
trump is an ass of monumental proportions
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And you make it obvious...he has his equal.


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