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Trump threatens NBC, then says it's 'disgusting' press can 'write whatever it wants'

Re: Trump Threatens to Target Licenses of 'NBC and the Networks' After Nuclear Arsenal Report

As I said in the other thread about this

A President uttering comments that tread the line of challenging or demeaning the notion of Freedom of the Press is no better than a President uttering comments that tread the line than a President uttering comments that tread the line of challenging or demeaning the notion of Freedom of Speech, Freedom of Assembly, or the Right to Bear Arms.

This is the kind of crap Trump absolutely needs to stop, and another example of his issues with his lack of impulse control combined with his use of twitter.

Unlike those that like to pound their chest in defense of the 2nd but turn a blind eye here, or those who continually want to put greater and greater checks and limits onto the 2nd but want to be offended here, I actually give a damn about the constitution across the board....this kind of attitude is completely uncalled for from a POTUS

You mean anything less should be viewed as a failure by NBC to keep from editorializing and sensationalizing a news story to suit some sort of agenda.

If Trump, as you stated, looked at a presentation and expressed a momentary desire based on that limited knowledge to reach those levels again and then began asking for more information regarding it, simply presenting the story singularly as "Trump wanted tenfold increase in nuclear arsenal" is a sensational take on the story that indicates a media derelict in their duty to provide the American People with all the relevant facts and information, as oppose to cherry picking in an effort to suite and fit an agenda they desperately want to craft and present.

Indeed, some of the very sources they use for the sensationalist, clickbait-esque, misleading headline, even indicate clearly how serious such a desire was:

"they did not take Trump’s desire for more nuclear weapons to be literally instructing the military to increase the actual numbers"

Of course, that's buried SEVEN paragraphs and a large picture into the story; a story that up until that point was treating the statement as if it WAS a legitimate and literal desire for the military to increase the actual numbers.

Indeed, the line after that indicates a far more honest and relevant type of headline that would be better at factually informing the public of the potential matter and actual issue, which would be something akin to "Questions raised about Trump's familiarity with U.S. Nuclear posture". However, Trump lacking familiarity with a matter is far less sensational, far less scandalous, fall less damning, and far less robust for Democrats to use as a means of attack then "Trump wants 10 times more nukes!!!!"

There's zero evidence that any actual order or suggestion to expand ever happened. There's zero evidence that beyond one throw away comment that anything further had occurred regarding it. There's as much evidence that he WASN'T being literal and was simply seeking further information as there was to it being a sincere desire or want. And yet the story focus almost entirely on the matter as if the one throw away comment was Trump Administration policy now.

It doesn't take a Trump "toadie" to think that's utter bull**** and a dereliction of duty on the part of media; just someone with an ounce of integrity, honest, and objectivity that bothers to take the time to read the full story.
 
Re: Trump suggested that media companies who report critically on him should have licenses revoked

It's so funny, because Obama and Trump couldnt be more different...and that is exactly how the Right used to describe Obama.

Both descriptions cant be right!
Can you imagine the puppies and kittens the right-wing would have if Obama had to surround himself with aides to control his erratic behavior? They'd be tripping over each other getting articles of impeachment to the House floor.
 
Re: Trump suggested that media companies who report critically on him should have licenses revoked

It's not a "stupid Tweet".

It comes from his Presidential account.
So What? Tell me any actions he's taken to support the hyperventilating the left is going through over this supposed assault on press freedoms? There are none because it was a stupid tweet...good grief!

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Re: Trump suggested that media companies who report critically on him should have licenses revoked

So What? Tell me any actions he's taken to support the hyperventilating the left is going through over this supposed assault on press freedoms? There are none because it was a stupid tweet...good grief!
If Obama said that he wanted to punish the media that published stories that criticized him, you'd be calling for his removal.
 
Re: Trump suggested that media companies who report critically on him should have licenses revoked

General Kelly will be gone by Thanksgiving.

No way he's going to keep putting up with this spoiled brat in the WH. Years of military service, promoted to a general, and now all Kelly is is a babysitter.

There's no one who can control Trump. He's mentally ill and out of control. Once Kelly steps out the GOP better get off their f'ing asses and remove this nut before he does some serious damage.
 
Re: Trump suggested that media companies who report critically on him should have licenses revoked

General Kelly will be gone by Thanksgiving.

No way he's going to keep putting up with this spoiled brat in the WH. Years of military service, promoted to a general, and now all Kelly is is a babysitter.

There's no one who can control Trump. He's mentally ill and out of control. Once Kelly steps out the GOP better get off their f'ing asses and remove this nut before he does some serious damage.

I still bet Tillerson wont make it through the week.
 
Re: Trump suggested that media companies who report critically on him should have licenses revoked

I still bet Tillerson wont make it through the week.
Kelly will be leaving soon. He is pushing for his assistant to head Homeland Security. That's an indication he wants her to land softly prior to him skedaddling. He is said to hate his job and is only hanging on out of a duty to contain Trump.
 
Re: Trump suggested that media companies who report critically on him should have licenses revoked

So What? Tell me any actions he's taken to support the hyperventilating the left is going through over this supposed assault on press freedoms? There are none because it was a stupid tweet...good grief!

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So just to get you on record for the future, you are ok with whatever a president says on their official presidential account (and trump and even the press secretary has said his personal twitter account it is official) even if it is outlandish? Yes?
 
Re: Trump suggested that media companies who report critically on him should have licenses revoked

Kelly will be leaving soon. He is pushing for his assistant to head Homeland Security. That's an indication he wants her to land softly prior to him skedaddling. He is said to hate his job and is only hanging on out of a duty to contain Trump.

Well it seems to be obvious to most of the public, the media, and virtually everyone around Trump that he can't be 'contained'. If Kelly can't put up with him and control him, then no one can. Corker and McCain seem to know that, but they are only speaking up because they are not up for re-election. The fact that the rest of the Republicans in DC don't care and are putting their party before country is one of the most disgusting things I've ever seen and borders on treason.
 
Re: Trump Threatens to Target Licenses of 'NBC and the Networks' After Nuclear Arsenal Report

His complaints initially were fine. A little thin-skinned, but whatever, they were fine. I would have rolled my eyes, sure, but it wasn't a big deal. Then he has to go and imply/suggest that NBC should lose their license over it, something that won't and can't happen. Literally. A 7th grade civics student knows that. Basically, the guy can't shut the eff up. For a grown adult, let alone the sitting President, to say that is dumb. Just effing dumb.

I agree.
 
Re: Trump suggested that media companies who report critically on him should have licenses revoked

Let your hatred flow bro...

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I'm just basing it on facts. SNL can't even have a sketch about him without unleashing a meltdown.
 
Re: Trump suggested that media companies who report critically on him should have licenses revoked

He could always sue them for defamation.

He can, and I'd love to see him do so. Because then they would subpoena everyone in that meeting. And every single one would have to lie in order to deny the ****ing moron comment and The Donald's comments to increase our nuclear arsenal.

The Donald wouldnt dare risk it, all of them hanging together and lying. THey know this administration wont last forever and the truth will come out. And they'd have perjured themselves.

Ah, a follow up, I couldnt find this before...the downward spiral is well on its way:

Trump and his Cabinet are stuck in an awkward embrace

This is the world in which we now live:

--The secretary of state has reportedly*called*the President a moron and spends a day trying to clean up the mess.

--The secretary of defense has publicly disputed the President's stated intent to withdraw from the Iran deal and also said we're not done talking with North Korea, after the President tweeted that we are done talking with North Korea.

--The chief economic adviser went on the record to say the administration must do a better job of denouncing hate groups after Charlottesville.

--The chief of staff, a four-star general, has privately told people he'd never been spoken to so badly in 35 years of government service,*according to the New York Times.

Trump and his Cabinet are stuck in an awkward embrace (Opinion) - CNN


God, the last one is so sad.
 
Re: Trump suggested that media companies who report critically on him should have licenses revoked

If a representative democracy or electoral college served any purpose, the election of Trump disproved those purposes.
The idea was that the rabble wouldn't elect a moron. It was a failsafe. Any idiot knows a pure democracy might lead to
rule by an idiot, but here we are- no democracy and an idiot nonetheless.
 
Re: Trump suggested that media companies who report critically on him should have licenses revoked

U.S. Senator Ben Sasse issued the following release tonight after President Trump yet again attacked the First Amendment.

Mr. President: words spoken by the President of the United States matter. Are you tonight recanting of the oath you took on January 20th to preserve, protect, and defend the First Amendment?"

https://twitter.com/BenSasse/status/918296123269189632
 
Re: Trump suggested that media companies who report critically on him should have licenses revoked

If a representative democracy or electoral college served any purpose, the election of Trump disproved those purposes.
The idea was that the rabble wouldn't elect a moron. It was a failsafe. Any idiot knows a pure democracy might lead to
rule by an idiot, but here we are- no democracy and an idiot nonetheless.

trump is a bumbling unqualified ill tempered jack ass...He made no pretension otherwise during the Election...Yet over 60 million Americans voted for his fool...What does that say about America in 2017?
 
IOW: Trump is opposed to the 1st Amendment.

How can anyone support this guy?
 
[h=2]CNN Media: President Trump suggested Wednesday that media companies which report critically on him should be punished by having their television station licenses revoked.[/h]
For the sake of democracy, this guy has to go. "Fake News" is any news that isn't fawning of him. To suggest that media companies that are critical of him shouldn't have licenses means he has no respect for the constitution or that the media is a legitimate check on the people in power.

The Weinstein scandal really exposed the media for what it is
Essentially the media arm for the Democratic party who will and does engage in fake news in a attempt to undermine the agenda of a duly elected President.

NBC refused to run Ronan Farrows Weinstein expose because of a lack of verifiable sources and a lack of women who were willing to go public with their accusations.

How many anti-Trump hit pieces have the NYTs, WaPo, CNN, NBC, etc run using only " unamed sources " since the election ?
 
The Weinstein scandal really exposed the media for what it is
Essentially the media arm for the Democratic party who will and does engage in fake news in a attempt to undermine the agenda of a duly elected President.

NBC refused to run Ronan Farrows Weinstein expose because of a lack of verifiable sources and a lack of women who were willing to go public with their accusations.

How many anti-Trump hit pieces have the NYTs, WaPo, CNN, NBC, etc run using only " unamed sources " since the election ?

If "everyone knew" about Weinstein all these years, why didn't Fox News expose this guy?
 
Re: President Trump threatens NBC over critical coverage

C'mon, try flexing those communication muscles a bit. See it as an intellectual exercise if nothing else.

Ok. Flexing here :)

It is how you interpret the meaning. Some will say he meant exactly what the news claims he said. Others will not. Saying "With all the Fake News coming out" does not equate to "reporting critically on him". He has said Fake news about reports on other people as well, so not always about him.

Asking "At what point is it appropriate to challenge their License?" is not saying "should be punished by having their television station license revoked" The first, to me, is questioning the validity of said media's credibility. The second is many steps further, aka hyperbole.

He could have very well meant what they think he meant, or he could not. They don't know, you don't know, I don't know, only he knows what he meant. Maybe he is raising the issue of media being more responsible for what they report. Actually a good question, but that's another issue.

My beef is, and has always been that if your going to report what someone says, then do it factually. Do not interpret for me what YOU think he meant. That's my job.

When they don't it changes the whole tone, which reflects the meaning, of the statement. I find twisting of words dangerous and dishonest, because it is how THEY interpreted what was said.

Personally, although he's not the brightest bulb in the pack, I don't think he seriously thinks he can change the constitution like that, and says crap like that to bait the media - which worked.

In no way am I defending what he does or says. My post was about the media and their bias, which sucks. :)
 
Re: Trump suggested that media companies who report critically on him should have licenses revoked

I read lot more than those outlets and yes, for this particular incident (comments in that meeting).

So you agree there's some fake news happening here.
 
Re: Trump suggested that media companies who report critically on him should have licenses revoked

Should Fox, Breitbart, the Blaze and other neo nazi news sites have had their licenses revoked for reporting on Obama?

They're not relevant to this conversation.
 
Re: Trump suggested that media companies who report critically on him should have licenses revoked

Please primary sitting GOP House and Senate members, as in 2012. Democrats will take back our Nation in 2020 ...

Dems have 25 contested seats in the senate while the Repubs have 9. IIRC [2018] There will be some changes but, favoring Trump.
 
If "everyone knew" about Weinstein all these years, why didn't Fox News expose this guy?

Is there any evidence that Fox News sat on this story for 13 years ? If there is I would love to see it
 
Is there any evidence that Fox News sat on this story for 13 years ? If there is I would love to see it

"Everyone knew"

Are they a news outfit or a propaganda outfit? Perhaps the issue struck too close to home for the leadership there.
 
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