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Utah police officer fired after manhandling, arresting nurse who was doing her job

Hawkeye10 said:
We are talking about the arrest of a person, the booking them, which can be fixed in hours with minimal negative impact to the individual arrested or the community or the rep of the PD so long as a public apology is made so that citizens reputation is not gravely harmed.
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And from now on when she is asked if she had ever been arrested she has to say yes.

That is not right.
 
X Factor said:
Actually not uncommon in vehicle accident cases where there's a suspicion of DWI or other such charges. He should have gotten a warrant.
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In this case the patient was the victim of the crash, not the one who caused it.

The vehicle, if I remember correctly was stationary, so there was no reason to test his blood.
 
Lord of Planar said:
That was a serious mistake. The police officer had to know he was out of line and committing a crime himself.
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It looked to me that adrenaline was flowing which would block how the brain works.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
Everybody has one of those stupid days where they do stupid ****.

Was that this?

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If we accept juries verdicts when a police officer is accused of a crime, we also have to accept the fact that his department made this decision with the information they had.

I seriously doubt they made this decision because of any public pressure.

Also departments don't let officers go if it is a first time infraction. They have too much invested in the officer for that.

He must have had a history in his jacket that warranted this action.

His department knows much more about this than we do.
 
Mason66 said:
In this case the patient was the victim of the crash, not the one who caused it.

The vehicle, if I remember correctly was stationary, so there was no reason to test his blood.
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The truck was moving, but it wasn't his fault. Here's the video - it's horrific. A car being chased veered across several lanes of traffic and hit the truck head on - instant explosion, and fire.

Dash cam video shows crash, explosion that killed fleeing driver in Cache County | Gephardt Daily

And I don't get why it was so important to get blood either. Clearly this was not the truck driver's fault, so I have no idea why they needed blood to supposedly clear this man.
 
X Factor said:
I am uninterested in your frustration. How would you like to accomplish more jury verdicts you agree with? What can we do to make it easier to convict cops? Lower the burden of proof? Put the presumption of guilt on the defendant?
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The burden of proof doesn't need to be lowered....cops just need to be held to the same standard as everyone else. They are not entitled to a greater benefit of the doubt simply because they wear a uniform and carry a badge, yet jurors often do just that.
 
Good.

That was terrible behavior (though at least it didn't kill anyone).
 
Mason66 said:
It looked to me that adrenaline was flowing which would block how the brain works.
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Are you bringing that up as an excuse?

Altho one does wonder why, since it was no emergency, why his "adrenaline would be flowing." What got him all excited?
 
JasperL said:
The truck was moving, but it wasn't his fault. Here's the video - it's horrific. A car being chased veered across several lanes of traffic and hit the truck head on - instant explosion, and fire.

Dash cam video shows crash, explosion that killed fleeing driver in Cache County | Gephardt Daily

And I don't get why it was so important to get blood either. Clearly this was not the truck driver's fault, so I have no idea why they needed blood to supposedly clear this man.
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Just IMO, if there was any chance at all the innocent driver's blood showed any impairment at all, it would help in any liability suits his family leveled at the police dept for the high speed chase. The dept could then say, "but he was drunk too!" or whatever was indicated. They were looking ahead to CYA.
 
Lursa said:
Are you bringing that up as an excuse?

Altho one does wonder why, since it was no emergency, why his "adrenaline would be flowing." What got him all excited?
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No excuse but that is what it looked like.

I would expect the adrenaline would be from her not complying and the anger he felt because of that.

I did not look like he was a rational person at all.
 
Mason66 said:
No excuse but that is what it looked like.

I would expect the adrenaline would be from her not complying and the anger he felt because of that.

I did not look like he was a rational person at all.
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Agreed. I would expect more self-control from an officer, any officer but esp. one with his years on the job. Non-compliance would be pretty common from people in that line of work!
 
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