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Georgia sheriff, deputies indicted after body searches of 900 high school students

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...d=hp_hp-morning-mix_mm-sheriff:homepage/story

For the next four hours, 40 uniformed officers — the entire staff of the Worth County Sheriff’s Office — fanned through the school in Sylvester, ordering students against the walls of classrooms and hallways, demanding the students hand over their cellphones.

All 900 students were searched, part of a drug sweep ordered by Sheriff Jeff Hobby, according to court documents.

He did not have a warrant. He had a “target list” of 12 suspected drug users. Only three of the names were in school that day, April 14.

By noon, when cellphones were handed back and classes resumed, no drugs had been found.
No warrant
Illegal search
Sheriff and 2 Deputies indicted
Massive lawsuit that IMHO will total millions
 
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...d=hp_hp-morning-mix_mm-sheriff:homepage/story


No warrant
Illegal search
Sheriff and 2 Deputies indicted
Massive lawsuit that IMHO will total millions

Police dept gets sued.

Lawsuit is settled out of court for a 5-6 figure settlement (or more, given how many minors had their rights violated).

Residents forced to live with the fact their taxes are going up to pay for said settlement.

This mans dumb****ery will be paid for by taxpayers for years to come.

This is an opportunity for law enforcement to show some impartiality by letting this man face the justice system. If they try to cover for him ....... America has no tolerance for those kinds of police at the moment. I'm not suggesting violence or going vigilante, but public outrage will probably result in worse consequences, given the current atmosphere, than if he simply faced the music.
 
“We did not give permission but they didn’t ask for permission,” Interim Worth County Superintendent Lawrence Walters told WALB after the raid. “He just said, the sheriff, that he was going to do it after spring break.”

I understand that police can search lockers with the permission of the principal, but this definitely appears to have crossed multiple lines.
 
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...d=hp_hp-morning-mix_mm-sheriff:homepage/story


No warrant
Illegal search
Sheriff and 2 Deputies indicted
Massive lawsuit that IMHO will total millions



every single one of those 40 officers should be fired & face the maximum criminal charges in a court of law, period ..........

whoever the Hell was supposed to be running that school that day should be fired & sued to the max in civil court, period

what a crock of **** ........... this nation is turning into a cesspool of NO rights for law abiding citizens; next thing we know it's gonna be 1930s Germany all over again ...........
 
Again, this is why we need to do away with sovereign immunity. No one should be above the law, especially government workers.
 
Also disturbing is the judgement to remove every single officer from the community to do the search at the school, leaving it vulnerable to crime.
 
every single one of those 40 officers should be fired & face the maximum criminal charges in a court of law, period ..........

whoever the Hell was supposed to be running that school that day should be fired & sued to the max in civil court, period

what a crock of **** ........... this nation is turning into a cesspool of NO rights for law abiding citizens; next thing we know it's gonna be 1930s Germany all over again ...........

Fire them all... Then call 9-1-1 and wonder why no one shows up.
 
every single one of those 40 officers should be fired & face the maximum criminal charges in a court of law, period ..........

whoever the Hell was supposed to be running that school that day should be fired & sued to the max in civil court, period

what a crock of **** ........... this nation is turning into a cesspool of NO rights for law abiding citizens; next thing we know it's gonna be 1930s Germany all over again ...........

I bolded a sentence...it made me wonder...I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with your statement, but who should they have turned to? The mayor? Governor? Other? Now you have me curious.
 
Police dept gets sued.

Lawsuit is settled out of court for a 5-6 figure settlement (or more, given how many minors had their rights violated).

Residents forced to live with the fact their taxes are going up to pay for said settlement.

This mans dumb****ery will be paid for by taxpayers for years to come.

This is an opportunity for law enforcement to show some impartiality by letting this man face the justice system. If they try to cover for him ....... America has no tolerance for those kinds of police at the moment. I'm not suggesting violence or going vigilante, but public outrage will probably result in worse consequences, given the current atmosphere, than if he simply faced the music.

And the music had better be job less. It occurs to me that public contracts with labor should include, when egregious misconduct is shown, their pension benefits be dumped into Social Security and their public pensions made null and void.
 
Also disturbing is the judgement to remove every single officer from the community to do the search at the school, leaving it vulnerable to crime.


Worth County Sheriff's Office is not the only law enforcement agency in Worth County. Sylvester, Poulan, and Warwick all have police departments. Only the town of Poulan doesn't have a local police department. There are also the State Troopers that patrol. Worth is a very small county, with only 20k population. When officers are at the school, or an event they carry these things called radios. They can be called to go wherever they need to go in the county relatively quickly. In addition, if more help were needed, maybe something really big, they could quickly get help from Dougherty County (Albany) which is the largest force in the area.

Georgia has 159 counties in the state.
 
And the music had better be job less. It occurs to me that public contracts with labor should include, when egregious misconduct is shown, their pension benefits be dumped into Social Security and their public pensions made null and void.

Do you think this egregious abuse of power was the idea of the rank and file?
Or were they ordered by someone higher up the chain of command?

I'd lay the blame where it should be, on whoever gave the order.
 
I bolded a sentence...it made me wonder...I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with your statement, but who should they have turned to? The mayor? Governor? Other? Now you have me curious.

A Sheriff in Georgia is an elected Constitutional Officer. He or she cannot be arrested, except by the coroner and a superior court judge. Look up the interesting case of Sheriff Victor Hill of Clayton County. You also cannot fire an elected Sheriff.
 
Are peoples issue with this because

The scale of the searches

The age of the people being searched

Or

That the searches were done without a warrant or reasonable suspicion?
 
A Sheriff in Georgia is an elected Constitutional Officer. He or she cannot be arrested, except by the coroner and a superior court judge. Look up the interesting case of Sheriff Victor Hill of Clayton County. You also cannot fire an elected Sheriff.

I wasnt bolding anything about arrest...I was asking who the school superintendent, board, etc could/should have turned to to stop the search. Or request it be stopped and examined for cause first. What specific authority should they have turned to?
 
40 officers, really?

Then this:

The class-action lawsuit — filed on behalf of nine unnamed students — laid out detailed allegations of groping during the school search. One student recounted that a deputy “looked down the back and front” of the student’s dress, then “slid her hands” over her pelvic area and “cupped” the student’s “vaginal area and buttocks,” according to the legal complaint.

Another male student recounted a deputy “moving his fingers back and forth” from his pockets to his groin, the lawsuit stated. The deputy’s fingertips touched the student’s “penis and testicles, over clothes, four to five times.”

A third student recounted how a deputy “reached up under” her shirt, “lifted her bra, and touched her bare breasts, including her nipples.”

In June, when the lawsuit was filed, one of the teenagers recounted his ordeal to The Post. The deputy “came up under my privates and then he grabbed my testicles twice,” the student said. “I wanted to turn around and tell him to stop touching me. I wanted it to be over and I just wanted to call my dad because I knew something wasn’t right.”

:shock: Disgusting.
 
I wasnt bolding anything about arrest...I was asking who the school superintendent, board, etc could/should have turned to to stop the search. Or request it be stopped and examined for cause first. What specific authority should they have turned to?

There isn't any authority that the school principal, superintendent or board should have turned to, to stop it. The sheriff is the elected constitutional officer. Unless it involves loss of life or limb, you comply with the orders and fight it in court later. This is exactly how this situation should have worked out. Not a bunch of people taking to the streets blocking traffic holding up signs, then burning and looting at night.
 
Do you think this egregious abuse of power was the idea of the rank and file?
Or were they ordered by someone higher up the chain of command?

I'd lay the blame where it should be, on whoever gave the order.

You have a point. But if your commander gives you an illegal order, I think you have an obligation not to carry it out. We sort of dealt with that at Nurenberg.
 
There isn't any authority that the school principal, superintendent or board should have turned to, to stop it. The sheriff is the elected constitutional officer. Unless it involves loss of life or limb, you comply with the orders and fight it in court later. This is exactly how this situation should have worked out. Not a bunch of people taking to the streets blocking traffic holding up signs, then burning and looting at night.

No way to stop him??? Wow.

If that was the case, surely the governor could step in. Altho getting a timely response would be unlikely unless violence was involved.

Are you saying the governor would not have authority over a sheriff?
 
You have a point. But if your commander gives you an illegal order, I think you have an obligation not to carry it out. We sort of dealt with that at Nurenberg.

But you had damned sure be positive that it is an illegal order or your career is over.
 
Are peoples issue with this because

The scale of the searches

The age of the people being searched

Or

That the searches were done without a warrant or reasonable suspicion?

All of the above.
 
But you had damned sure be positive that it is an illegal order or your career is over.

As tough as the unions fight for their cops, I doubt a cop would have lost his job for disobeying THIS order.
 
No way to stop him??? Wow.

If that was the case, surely the governor could step in. Altho getting a timely response would be unlikely unless violence was involved.

Are you saying the governor would not have authority over a sheriff?

I am saying that in the county the governor is one of four elected constitutional officers. He can only be removed from power by the coroner and a superior court judge. The governor in Georgia has the power to suspend a sitting sheriff. It isn't as easy as just making a phone call. The protections that a sheriff has stems back to the days when a political enemy might have the law enforcement of another jurisdiction arrest a sitting sheriff in order to hurt him/her politically. Sheriff Victor Hill (Clayton County) got elected while pending trial for 22 counts stemming from his last term as sheriff four years prior. He did beat the charges. He later accidentally shot a lady friend in Gwinnett County, refused to answer any questions, or to be placed under arrest. He was not suspended. I know of two sheriffs that have been suspended, Jeff Mann of DeKalb County, he was exposing himself in a park, and the sheriff of my county, Joe Chapman, for failing to report an arrest in Florida for a bar fight. Charges were dropped on the bar fight.
 
As tough as the unions fight for their cops, I doubt a cop would have lost his job for disobeying THIS order.

Worth County Deputies are not union. The point is that you do not refuse to follow the orders of the sheriff unless you are very positive it is an unlawful order, because the sheriff can and will fire that deputy on the spot. It is within his or her authority. Sheriffs are elected, deputies are not.
 
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