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jet57 said:
Very good post; thanks. As the bottom gets deeper, more and more rising to the top. I remember during the election that Mike Morell told Charlie Rose that he was quitting his usual business to focus on defeating Trump and that a Trump presidency was very bad for the country.

That prediction is coming clearer and clearer every day.
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Yes--Trump was one yuuuge mistake, that's for certain. It's like reading the best spy novel ever--and every week something new pops up.
 
Chomsky said:
Perhaps.

My take:

They may not find hard evidence of collusion, but I suspect they're going to find a ton of financial and other crimes or regulation breaking in the Trump organization and his crowd. Whether that's enough to do them in, is unknown. Probably not. But I predict there will be at least some improprieties and financial or other violations.

Why am I predicting this? Because I believe Trump plays fast and loose, and promotes that kind of environment.
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I agree with you there, all of that is an extremely likely event that could happen. I for one don't see any real chance of collusion, because even CNNs law analyst have said collusion isn't actually illegal.

However on the case of improper use of funds, and other financial problems, that could bury them if it was done wrong. Though I would still put the match in Trump's favor when it comes to that. Getting around such things in his days of running the Trump name like a bulldozer, has shown that such a thing is not an issue for him.

This investigation will be an interesting event to witness.
 
Conservative said:
You want to give Obama credit for bringing us out of the recession so what exactly did he do to do that since he prolonged the recession not ending it. Here is a great article for you so suggest you read it and please stop letting the left use you for their propaganda

What Ended the Great Recession?
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First, the notion that Obama prolonged the recession is revisionist nonsense. The stimulus plan, the auto bailout and the Fed engaging in expansionary policies increased gdp and cut unemployment.
Second, I am sure “wall street pit” is an esteemed source, but other more credible sources have come to a different conclusion about Obama. Moreover, while Obama was stimulating the economy Republicans were advocating contractionary policies, like cutting spending and warnings that Obama’s policies would cause hyperinflation, higher interest rates and devalue the dollar — none of which happened.
 
MTAtech said:
First, the notion that Obama prolonged the recession is revisionist nonsense. The stimulus plan, the auto bailout and the Fed engaging in expansionary policies increased gdp and cut unemployment.
Second, I am sure “wall street pit” is an esteemed source, but other more credible sources have come to a different conclusion about Obama. Moreover, while Obama was stimulating the economy Republicans were advocating contractionary policies, like cutting spending and warnings that Obama’s policies would cause hyperinflation, higher interest rates and devalue the dollar — none of which happened.
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Exactly, BLS data lies, the Obamas stimulus took employment from 142 million down to 139 million two years AFTER the stimulus was passed. The auto bailout cost the American people $13 dollars a share and sold Chrysler to the Italians. Yep, true success stories in that liberal Fairyland you live in
 
Conservative said:
Exactly, BLS data lies, the Obamas stimulus took employment from 142 million down to 139 million two years AFTER the stimulus was passed. The auto bailout cost the American people $13 dollars a share and sold Chrysler to the Italians. Yep, true success stories in that liberal Fairyland you live in
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Another phony post by Conservative.

The Great Recession drove employment down from 139 mil and Obama's policies reversed it, as the graph below plainly shows:

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GM: The Most Successful Bailout Bankruptcy

The U.S. sold almost half of its stake in the nation’s largest automaker for $33 a share — about $10 less than it needs to break even. The remaining shares will need to sell for about $20 higher to make up the difference. GM opened at $35 and stayed within $1.11 of that price all day. Selling the remaining shares at that price would produce a loss of about $9 billion.

That may go down as a bargain. The U.S. would have lost $28.6 billion in spending on social services and missing tax revenue if not for the bailout of GM, its former lending arm and Chrysler Group LLC, according to a study released Nov. 17 by the Center for Automotive Research in Ann Arbor, Michigan.
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MTAtech;1067723965]Another phony post by Conservative.

The Great Recession drove employment down from 139 mil and Obama's policies reversed it, as the graph below plainly shows:

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Got it, buying at $52 a share and selling at $39 a share is a success in the liberal world. Now as for employment as stated you have no understanding of what part time for economic reasons plays in those numbers. Let me show you that Obama success and compare that to what Trump has done in 9 months

Labor Force Statistics from the Current Population Survey
Original Data Value

Series Id: LNS12032194
Seasonally Adjusted
Series title: (Seas) Employment Level - Part-Time for Economic Reasons, All Industries
Labor force status: Employed
Type of data: Number in thousands
Age: 16 years and over
Hours at work: 1 to 34 hours
Reasons work not as scheduled: Economic reasons
Worker status/schedules: At work part time
Years: 2007 to 2017

Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec
2007 4279 4220 4253 4313 4473 4342 4410 4576 4521 4325 4494 4618
2008 4846 4902 4904 5220 5286 5540 5930 5851 6148 6690 7311 8029
2009 8046 8796 9145 8908 9113 9024 8891 9029 8847 8979 9114 9098
2010 8530 8936 9233 9178 8845 8577 8500 8800 9246 8837 8873 8935
2011 8470 8464 8645 8652 8576 8427 8281 8788 9166 8657 8447 8171
2012 8305 8238 7775 7913 8101 8072 8082 7974 8671 8203 8166 7943
2013 8074 8119 7658 7936 7864 8096 8083 7804 8011 7995 7730 7792
2014 7298 7262 7403 7466 7170 7469 7430 7173 7123 7033 6870 6819
2015 6836 6664 6646 6563 6544 6463 6292 6438 6031 5734 6113 6057
2016 6035 6019 6120 5970 6409 5820 5936 6027 5874 5850 5659 5598
2017 5840 5704 5553 5272 5219 5326 5282 5255 5122
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Guess the American people just aren't as smart as you because they didn't see the success you want to give Obama credit for
 
Conservative said:
That is a lie. TARP ended the recession not Obama

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OK, I'll go with that. Elizabeth Warren ended the recession, and she was appointed by Obama.
 
Conservative said:
Please research my posts and find where I ever attacked Obama personally over his illegal activities? Obama policies were a disaster and we paid dearly for them
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Obama inherited from a failed GW Administration:
1. A massive recession.
2. A banking/housing crisis.
3. A bankrupt American auto industry.
4. CEO corruption, scandals, and thievery
5. Two wars.
6. Massive deficit spending.

He did an admirable job, and cleaned up most of these Republican messes.
 
Media_Truth said:
OK, I'll go with that. Elizabeth Warren ended the recession, and she was appointed by Obama.
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LOL, revisionist history, TARP Was in 2008 and Obama had nothing to do with ending the recession as the economic results show and Pocahontas had nothing to do with the Federal Reserve
 
reinoe said:
So a British firm was hired to interfere with our elections? I sure hope Mueller is going to investigate this foreigner trying to interfere with our sacred and precious election process.
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That is absolutely hilarious.
 
Media_Truth said:
Obama inherited from a failed GW Administration:
1. A massive recession.
2. A banking/housing crisis.
3. A bankrupt American auto industry.
4. CEO corruption, scandals, and thievery
5. Two wars.
6. Massive deficit spending.

He did an admirable job, and cleaned up most of these Republican messes.
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Sure he did and of course civics wasn't in play and never is with the left

Massive recession that affected you how? it didn't affect me at all nor my family nor yours
Banking crisis that started in the 1990's?
Bankrupting of the auto industry thanks to the unions?
CEO corruption that was created by greed and the 90's?
two wars, one started with planning under Clinton
Massive deficit spending? you mean like the 9.3 trillion Obama added to the debt?

I guess you never took civics or basic business economics as it is obvious you have no understanding of how business and the private sector works blaming one President for destroying the economy and another for saving it by taking the debt to 20 trillion or over 100% of our GDP

Absolutely stunning how poorly informed you are and doing research isn't a strength. Keep re-writing history and keep losing elections.
 
Conservative said:
Sure he did and of course civics wasn't in play and never is with the left

Massive recession that affected you how? it didn't affect me at all nor my family nor yours
Banking crisis that started in the 1990's?
Bankrupting of the auto industry thanks to the unions?
CEO corruption that was created by greed and the 90's?
two wars, one started with planning under Clinton
Massive deficit spending? you mean like the 9.3 trillion Obama added to the debt?

I guess you never took civics or basic business economics as it is obvious you have no understanding of how business and the private sector works blaming one President for destroying the economy and another for saving it by taking the debt to 20 trillion or over 100% of our GDP

Absolutely stunning how poorly informed you are and doing research isn't a strength. Keep re-writing history and keep losing elections.
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Translation: Republicans never do anything wrong.

Democrats do everything wrong.
 
Jetboogieman said:
Translation: Republicans never do anything wrong.

Democrats do everything wrong.
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The true fact is that the left doesn't understand nor are they interested in actual results just perception and feelings. Republicans do a lot wrong but just not nearly as bad as the social engineering by the left that doesn't understand personal responsibility
 
Conservative said:
Sure he did and of course civics wasn't in play and never is with the left

Massive recession that affected you how? it didn't affect me at all nor my family nor yours
Banking crisis that started in the 1990's?
Bankrupting of the auto industry thanks to the unions?
CEO corruption that was created by greed and the 90's?
two wars, one started with planning under Clinton
Massive deficit spending? you mean like the 9.3 trillion Obama added to the debt?

I guess you never took civics or basic business economics as it is obvious you have no understanding of how business and the private sector works blaming one President for destroying the economy and another for saving it by taking the debt to 20 trillion or over 100% of our GDP

Absolutely stunning how poorly informed you are and doing research isn't a strength. Keep re-writing history and keep losing elections.
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I am still waiting for the Obama results that are better than the Bush results including employment in context

GDP--NO
Debt--NO
Discouraged workers--NO
Part time for economic reasons--NO
Consumer confidence index---NO
Labor participation rate--NO
Foreign policy successes--NO

Let me know how these numbers affected the employment number as well as unemployment rate?

Labor Force Statistics from the Current Population Survey
Original Data Value

Series Id: LNS12032194
Seasonally Adjusted
Series title: (Seas) Employment Level - Part-Time for Economic Reasons, All Industries
Labor force status: Employed
Type of data: Number in thousands
Age: 16 years and over
Hours at work: 1 to 34 hours
Reasons work not as scheduled: Economic reasons
Worker status/schedules: At work part time
Years: 2007 to 2017

Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec
2007 4279 4220 4253 4313 4473 4342 4410 4576 4521 4325 4494 4618
2008 4846 4902 4904 5220 5286 5540 5930 5851 6148 6690 7311 8029
2009 8046 8796 9145 8908 9113 9024 8891 9029 8847 8979 9114 9098
2010 8530 8936 9233 9178 8845 8577 8500 8800 9246 8837 8873 8935
2011 8470 8464 8645 8652 8576 8427 8281 8788 9166 8657 8447 8171
2012 8305 8238 7775 7913 8101 8072 8082 7974 8671 8203 8166 7943
2013 8074 8119 7658 7936 7864 8096 8083 7804 8011 7995 7730 7792
2014 7298 7262 7403 7466 7170 7469 7430 7173 7123 7033 6870 6819
2015 6836 6664 6646 6563 6544 6463 6292 6438 6031 5734 6113 6057
2016 6035 6019 6120 5970 6409 5820 5936 6027 5874 5850 5659 5598
2017 5840 5704 5553 5272 5219 5326 5282 5255 5122
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Obama vs. Trump in black
 
Oborosen said:
I agree with you there, all of that is an extremely likely event that could happen. I for one don't see any real chance of collusion, because even CNNs law analyst have said collusion isn't actually illegal.

However on the case of improper use of funds, and other financial problems, that could bury them if it was done wrong. Though I would still put the match in Trump's favor when it comes to that. Getting around such things in his days of running the Trump name like a bulldozer, has shown that such a thing is not an issue for him.

This investigation will be an interesting event to witness.
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Agreed.

The thing, is: It's very hard to overturn a Presidency, in both legal and political terms. Trump would have to be found guilty beyond doubt, of some particularly heinous act I believe. And even then it will still remain a political, rather than legal, situation.
 
Chomsky said:
Agreed.

The thing, is: It's very hard to overturn a Presidency, in both legal and political terms. Trump would have to be found guilty beyond doubt, of some particularly heinous act I believe. And even then it will still remain a political, rather than legal, situation.
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Yes that will be the case, though I am ready (or at least hope I am) for when everyone comes out of the woodwork to push that political narrative home.
 
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