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Rep. Tim Murphy, popular with pro-life movement, urged abortion in affair, texts suggest

Anti-abortion congressman urged woman get an abortion, text messages suggest

Rep. Tim Murphy urged woman get an abortion, report says - CNNPolitics

Washington (CNN)Rep. Tim Murphy, a Pennsylvania Republican with a staunchly anti-abortion voting record, urged a woman he was having an affair with to get an abortion, according to messages obtained by the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette.
Murphy admitted to the affair in September, and texts reported on by the Post-Gazette showed the woman accused Murphy of hypocrisy in January after an anti-abortion message was posted to his Facebook account.
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Rep. Tim Murphy, popular with pro-life movement, urged abortion in affair, texts suggest | Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

A text message sent in January to U.S. Rep. Tim Murphy by a woman with whom he had an extra-marital relationship took him to task for an anti-abortion statement posted on Facebook from his office's public account.

"And you have zero issue posting your pro-life stance all over the place when you had no issue asking me to abort our unborn child just last week when we thought that was one of the options," Shannon Edwards, a forensic psychologist in Pittsburgh with whom the congressman admitted last month to having a relationship, wrote to Mr. Murphy on Jan. 25, in the midst of an unfounded pregnancy scare.
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Hhmmmmm, pro life but when running around suggests his mistress have an abortion.
Nope nothing there.
 
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Party of “family values!” I haven’t heard that expression for a while?
Who is that peeking at me from below the restroom stall? Just a Republican!
 
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JANFU said:
Rep. Tim Murphy urged woman get an abortion, report says - CNNPolitics



Rep. Tim Murphy, popular with pro-life movement, urged abortion in affair, texts suggest | Pittsburgh Post-Gazette


Hhmmmmm, pro life but when running around suggests his mistress have an abortion.
Nope nothing there.
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?? So? Politically I am pro-choice. Personally I am against abortion. One's stance as a politician does not have to reflect their personal views. I have always stated that a representative should be representing what the people in their district wants. Not what they want.

Now if he has said that he is personally against abortion then I could easily see the hypocrisy. No doubt this fool has though. In which case, yeah, hypocrite. Nothing new in the world of politicians to be frank. He should be voted out next season or recalled. All depends on what his constituents say.
 
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Kal'Stang said:
?? So? Politically I am pro-choice. Personally I am against abortion. One's stance as a politician does not have to reflect their personal views. I have always stated that a representative should be representing what the people in their district wants. Not what they want.

Now if he has said that he is personally against abortion then I could easily see the hypocrisy. No doubt this fool has though. In which case, yeah, hypocrite. Nothing new in the world of politicians to be frank. He should be voted out next season or recalled. All depends on what his constituents say.
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I disagree with that. Not because it's a 'public' position and not a personal one. Just because many people are pro-choice...publicly...doesn't mean they would have one or support their loved one having one.

But this is a law-maker. Someone who's job is to determine and implement policy. So while I agree he can hold a personal opinion, to drive an agenda and not be open about that? IMO that's dishonest & wrong. It's also wrong to me because I see most pro-life stances as pushing to reduce women's rights (which I dont believe anyone should advocate but it's particularly onerous in someone with legislative power).

Regarding 'dishonest,' exactly what reasons has he publicly supported for being pro-life? (I have not seen). Not sure which he can come up with that dont make his true request completely hypocritical and dishonest. (Maybe but if so, I'd like to know what)
 
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Lursa said:
You sure are twisting yourself into a pretzel to try and not admit your mistake LMAO And from previous experience, it will go on and on for pages as you slice and dice in an effort to wear down everyone else.

Every time you respond, you only provide a reiteration of what we wrote...no one's in doubt of what you meant.

PLease see my signature, in green.
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More twisting by you, as I have remained consistent. No point in me continuing to reply on it, as it is posted clear as day, for all to see. I thought I would just spell out the obvious for you, but now I realize that I am trying to convince someone that 2+2=4, when you've decided that it's 5 and, more importantly, you've decided that nothing will get you off that.
 
RAMOSS said:
Oh.. to be sure there are hypocrites that are democratic too. However, Republicans and conservative politicians are much more likely to run on family value and other moral issues, so when they get snagged for violating the lip service to moral issues, it stands out more. Giving lip service to those conservative moral issues is what got them elected. The rich and powerful never think the rules apply to them though.
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That's just a given. Talk is cheap in politics. Real cheap. But, has no effect on my stance on abortion.
 
Anthony60 said:
More twisting by you, as I have remained consistent. No point in me continuing to reply on it, as it is posted clear as day, for all to see. I thought I would just spell out the obvious for you, but now I realize that I am trying to convince someone that 2+2=4, when you've decided that it's 5 and, more importantly, you've decided that nothing will get you off that.
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Hey I've remained consistent...right down to you continuing to illuminate your initial fail for all to see.
 
Anthony60 said:
That's just a given. Talk is cheap in politics. Real cheap. But, has no effect on my stance on abortion.
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I don't expect it to. I am just pointing out that when you have a party that continually runs as the 'moral' party, and specifically runs on moral values, there will be a much higher percentage of the ones that run on those issues that will be found to be violating those standards in their personal life. It's not about changing your opinion, but merely showing the mechanism of why there are so many more people in the republican/conservative side of the shop that end of showing that they are hypocrites.
 
RAMOSS said:
I don't expect it to. I am just pointing out that when you have a party that continually runs as the 'moral' party, and specifically runs on moral values, there will be a much higher percentage of the ones that run on those issues that will be found to be violating those standards in their personal life. It's not about changing your opinion, but merely showing the mechanism of why there are so many more people in the republican/conservative side of the shop that end of showing that they are hypocrites.
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Well, you can't really penalize them for trying to be the "moral" party. that should be a given. The fact that we have a party that doesn't care to be a moral party is pretty sad in itself.
 
Anthony60 said:
Well, you can't really penalize them for trying to be the "moral" party. that should be a given. The fact that we have a party that doesn't care to be a moral party is pretty sad in itself.
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There is no Moral Party in the US.

Republicans are not moral in any way shape or form, if telling women what to do makes you think you are moral then there is something wrong with you.
 
Anthony60 said:
Well, you can't really penalize them for trying to be the "moral" party. that should be a given. The fact that we have a party that doesn't care to be a moral party is pretty sad in itself.
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Well, yes, I can.. because it is ego, rather than actuality. And, when it comes to folks in office, they can be penalized for using rhetoric to get elected without the foundation beneath the rhetoric.
 
Jetboogieman said:
There is no Moral Party in the US.

Republicans are not moral in any way shape or form, if telling women what to do makes you think you are moral then there is something wrong with you.
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I guess, "Excuse me, please don't kill that baby" is considered amoral by the gutless cowards among us. Nope, can't tell that to a woman.
 
RAMOSS said:
Well, yes, I can.. because it is ego, rather than actuality. And, when it comes to folks in office, they can be penalized for using rhetoric to get elected without the foundation beneath the rhetoric.
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It's just a little ironic to complain about a text... Oh, how immoral! How's Charlie Rangel doing these days? I know the Democrats won't stand for being immoral!
 
Anthony60 said:
It's just a little ironic to complain about a text... Oh, how immoral! How's Charlie Rangel doing these days? I know the Democrats won't stand for being immoral!
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Ah, the 'what about' blah blah blah syndrome. It's a distraction technique used when someone is backed into a corner and can't answer.
 
Phys251 said:
Here we go again with the conservative Republican hypocrisy.

Beautiful. He wants to block women's right to choose but wants to encourage a woman--with whom he cheated--to have an abortion.
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This is not uncommon. I once watched a friend almost die from an illegal abortion - she was pregnant by a married minister who was head of the local Right to Life Chapter. He pushed her to abort.
 
Scrabaholic said:
This is not uncommon. I once watched a friend almost die from an illegal abortion - she was pregnant by a married minister who was head of the local Right to Life Chapter. He pushed her to abort.
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So Tim Murphy is just another one of those hypocritical politicians. What else is new in decaying America? With politicians it has always been do what I say and not do what I do. Period.
 
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Kal'Stang said:
?? So? Politically I am pro-choice. Personally I am against abortion. One's stance as a politician does not have to reflect their personal views. I have always stated that a representative should be representing what the people in their district wants. Not what they want.

Now if he has said that he is personally against abortion then I could easily see the hypocrisy. No doubt this fool has though. In which case, yeah, hypocrite. Nothing new in the world of politicians to be frank. He should be voted out next season or recalled. All depends on what his constituents say.
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Being politically pro-choice, but privately against abortion is a consistent position. You are acknowledging people have the right to choose. You, in exercising the right, choose not.

OTH, being politically anti-abortion because its morally wrong and then telling your girl friend to have an abortion is nothing short of hypocrisy.
 
RAMOSS said:
Ah, the 'what about' blah blah blah syndrome. It's a distraction technique used when someone is backed into a corner and can't answer.
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Oh, no, I'm sorry, it's no distraction technique at all. It's a very relevant point to make. When you are complaining about someone being a hypocrite, you better damn well be prepared to answer questions about your side doing the same.

You are not. You are prepared to avoid answering at all costs and point the finger elsewhere.
 
Anthony60 said:
Oh, no, I'm sorry, it's no distraction technique at all. It's a very relevant point to make. When you are complaining about someone being a hypocrite, you better damn well be prepared to answer questions about your side doing the same.

You are not. You are prepared to avoid answering at all costs and point the finger elsewhere.
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No, it isn't a valid point at all. His case would be more in line with the Tom Price issue... it's comparing apples and oranges.
 
RAMOSS said:
No, it isn't a valid point at all. His case would be more in line with the Tom Price issue... it's comparing apples and oranges.
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Put it this way, when a hypocrite calls someone else a hypocrite, it doesn't carry much weight.
 
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