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North Korea says U.S. 'declared war' warns it could shoot down U.S. bombers

blackjack50 said:
The third option is to starve china and force them to come to the table to starve North Korea. I'm sure we could find some weakpoints on china that could allow us to reach some kind of deal that they would stop supporting North Korea completely.
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And I forgot to note in my other comment that China is the world's largest trading power, with an economy second only to ours. We could certainly do plenty of economic damage to each other, but neither can starve the other.
 
cuban smokes said:
California .........
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No California produces to much and pays in more taxes than they get back. I would suggest Texas, they stole the north stars, and I have never forgiven them. They have it coming :)
 
beancounter said:
Just more saber rattling bluster. He wouldn't dare shoot a U.S. plane that wasn't directly attacking the country.
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Pretty much.

The problem is miscommunication on either side.


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Mr Person said:
And I forgot to note in my other comment that China is the world's largest trading power, with an economy second only to ours. We could certainly do plenty of economic damage to each other, but neither can starve the other.
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Sure. But we could certainly harm them in trade. Especially since the other 2 major trading partners have a vested interest in fighting them...South Korea and Japan. Personally? I would like to see the United States (or citizens) invest in trying to create a similar trading partner in South/centeral America. Someone who we could use to replace China. But that would take a long time and lots of money...and a way to figure out how to break China's hold on cheap technology in their Silicon Valley.
 
cuban smokes said:
You really are hoping for WWIII, aren't you? You may get your wish, much sooner, than later ............ good luck ...........
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Nope, I am hoping for a nuclear neutered North Korea that teach's them the lesson they still need to learn; "F" with the US or its allies, face utter and complete ruin of your military and, if need be, population and infrastructure.

A defined and publicly published escalation of pressure, backed by action, may work before triggering war. However, it is time that the clay-footed hang-wringers strap on a porta-spine. The clock has run out. It is now time to bring this to a head and, no matter what, get it concluded.

Besides, at worst I see 2.5 million NK dead, vs. a few hundred thousand allied killed. That smells like victory to me.
 
GDViking said:
Threats, he threatened to destroy 23 million people...
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First of all a threat, as you call it, is not a violation of a cease fire.

Second of all, did Trump just wake up one morning and say he was going to destroy those people or was he responding to another's actions?
 
GDViking said:
Well it took longer than I predicted but here we go...

I told my son that trumps mouth would get us into at least one war within three months.
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Good to see you're blaming Trump and not the insane dictator firing off rockets over Japan and threatening to nuke Guam. Disgusting.
 
shrubnose said:
North Korea started the Korean War when it attacked South Korea in 1950.

The USA will finish this war by destroying North Korea.Wait and see.
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Let's hope another way out happens long before it becomes necessary?

Even a internal coup would end up being ugly as there are no internal forces inside of North Korea supporting peaceful relations on the world stage.

The country is literally flooded with thousands of brainwashed generals who would be more than happy to carry on in place of the Rocket man.
 
maxparrish said:
Most posters in this thread (so far) are wrong. Whimpering spinelessness is no way to deal with North Korea; the policy of hand-wringing procrastination has led the US to a situation where NK likely has 6-16 fission nukes, and is nearing the point of producing an ICBM that could reach many of its 48 states.

Now that NK believes the US has declared war, its matter of who strikes first. Hence Trump ought to take a page from the Japanese before WWII and North Vietnam's strategy after TET..."talk-fight". In other words, prepare to launch a war while talking and applying military action.

Trump should immediately declare that he will return tactical nuclear weapons to South Korea, and that should NK start any military action against the US or SK they will be used as necessary.

Trump should mobilize the armed forces and reserves, staging massive quantities of military supplies in Japan, SK, and nearby bases.

Trump should order US forces to start shooting down any NK missiles launched within range of US THADD systems.

Trump should have a drop-dead date; if NK does not comply then all nuclear sites in the NK will be be attacked until rendered inoperative.

If NK strikes back, then battle plans for the invasion of NK should be activated and executed.
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HUH? The US soldiers along the NK border will last about 1 day, and they will be watching the rockets and artillery flying overhead on their way to Seoul.

Kim's military is fairly simple but his artillery and rockets are deadly.

The South Korean people would never forgive the US for bringing on this onslaught.

As much as I would love to see Rocket Man disappear, your way will make many millions more people hate the USA.
 
GDViking said:
Well it took longer than I predicted but here we go...

I told my son that trumps mouth would get us into at least one war within three months.
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It's just Kim shooting off his mouth. Trump was pretty vocal himself, but he specifically said we would take action only if NK acted against our nation or our allies. No one in his right mind thinks that's a declaration of war.

Of course, Kim has never been in right state of mind.
 
Lutherf said:
Trump's fault?

For more than 20 years and three prior administrations we have watched as North Korea developed nukes and committed belligerent acts but now, because Trump is in the White House and because he's calling the Kim dynasty out for what it is, it's his fault. Bill Clinton, George Bush and Barack Obama all kicked the North Korean can down the road. Well, eventually you get to the end of the road.
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Unfortunately this is all just more of the same.
They wholly want to blame someone for all of this, and you know that they aren't going to do so to the last three holders of the office. Trump is ripe for blame in this one, and they are going to jump on that target as soon as the light is green
 
HowardBThiname said:
It's just Kim shooting off his mouth. Trump was pretty vocal himself, but he specifically said we would take action only if NK acted against our nation or our allies. No one in his right mind thinks that's a declaration of war.

Of course, Kim has never been in right state of mind.
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Yet everyone still see's it as Trumps fault, and for them that is all that matters.
 
GDViking said:
I wouldn't bet on it, but trump will...
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You really need to get over your TDS. Not only is it unhealthy but it also makes you look rather foolish and sad.
 
Oborosen said:
Yet everyone still see's it as Trumps fault, and for them that is all that matters.
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HA! I Just read this:

And while it may be too late to stop North Korea from becoming a nuclear power, Hellman says it's unfair to blame that on the current administration. He says every president back to Bill Clinton is to blame for not taking North Korea seriously enough and instead focusing their efforts on other world leaders.
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UW professor: Odds of war with North Korea minimal | KING5.com

Washington political science professor Don Hellmann.

He has worked extensively in Southeast Asian politics



NOTE: UW is deeply connected to China, I would tend to believe this professor.
 
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beancounter said:
Just more saber rattling bluster. He wouldn't dare shoot a U.S. plane that wasn't directly attacking the country.
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Why not? North Korea has already shot down an unarmed US aircraft in international airspace....so it wouldn't be the first time.
 
Oborosen said:
Yet everyone still see's it as Trumps fault, and for them that is all that matters.
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Agreed. They just want to find something to attack Trump over. Where was all the outrage when JFK told the USSR to turn around their ships that were heading fro Cuba or he'd blow them out of the water? Presidents, the ones with balls at any rate, often play the rhetoric game with rogue nations, but if the only source of news is the MSM, you'd never know it. I've never seen a more childish media. Journalistic integrity is a thing of the past.
 
HowardBThiname said:
Agreed. They just want to find something to attack Trump over. Where was all the outrage when JFK told the USSR to turn around their ships that were heading fro Cuba or he'd blow them out of the water? Presidents, the ones with balls at any rate, often play the rhetoric game with rogue nations, but if the only source of news is the MSM, you'd never know it. I've never seen a more childish media. Journalistic integrity is a thing of the past.
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That is unfortunately the truth of the matter now, we currently have a president who is more then willing to play this game of blustering, and flexing. Unfortunately he is rather thin skinned, and far too willing to make a show of things for public approval.

Though I don't agree with everything the man is doing, putting NK in its place, and to that extension Kim in general is a good move. We have had too many presidents now that either cow to them in light of other issues, or that just let the country do as Un pleased. Only for their impotence on the issue be a sorry reminder, any & every time the country reared its beady head.

I am not entirely opposed to a military solution to this issue with North Korea, though as I have several friends in the south, not to mention one who lives in Seoul as an attached PMC. I would rather we handle this diplomatically, and as non-violently as we can.

Though hoping the main stream media remain objective about all of this, is kind of a moot hope all things considered.
 
maxparrish said:
Most posters in this thread (so far) are wrong. Whimpering spinelessness is no way to deal with North Korea; the policy of hand-wringing procrastination has led the US to a situation where NK likely has 6-16 fission nukes, and is nearing the point of producing an ICBM that could reach many of its 48 states.

Now that NK believes the US has declared war, its matter of who strikes first. Hence Trump ought to take a page from the Japanese before WWII and North Vietnam's strategy after TET..."talk-fight". In other words, prepare to launch a war while talking and applying military action.

Trump should immediately declare that he will return tactical nuclear weapons to South Korea, and that should NK start any military action against the US or SK they will be used as necessary.

Trump should mobilize the armed forces and reserves, staging massive quantities of military supplies in Japan, SK, and nearby bases.

Trump should order US forces to start shooting down any NK missiles launched within range of US THADD systems.

Trump should have a drop-dead date; if NK does not comply then all nuclear sites in the NK will be be attacked until rendered inoperative.

If NK strikes back, then battle plans for the invasion of NK should be activated and executed.
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Which 2 states did we lose already?
 
PraiseKek said:
There is no American Empire except for in the minds of democidal communist imperialist scum.
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Review where your militiary is deployed and occupying, it is global and your economy at home is being cannibalized to prop up the over expansion. That's why it has become necessary to militarize your police departments and clamp down on the population at home keeping them under constant state surveillance.
 
Oborosen said:
That is unfortunately the truth of the matter now, we currently have a president who is more then willing to play this game of blustering, and flexing. Unfortunately he is rather thin skinned, and far too willing to make a show of things for public approval.

Though I don't agree with everything the man is doing, putting NK in its place, and to that extension Kim in general is a good move. We have had too many presidents now that either cow to them in light of other issues, or that just let the country do as Un pleased. Only for their impotence on the issue be a sorry reminder, any & every time the country reared its beady head.

I am not entirely opposed to a military solution to this issue with North Korea, though as I have several friends in the south, not to mention one who lives in Seoul as an attached PMC. I would rather we handle this diplomatically, and as non-violently as we can.

Though hoping the main stream media remain objective about all of this, is kind of a moot hope all things considered.
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Well sure, the donor/"job creator" class and Wall Street always want more war and the media is a corporate owned entity.
 
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