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'Get that son of a b***h off the field!':Trump calls for BOYCOTTS NFL teams [W:1065]

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Yes, football fans don't want to think about anything else while watching football. I'm just assuming this because I have no idea why else they would sit in front of a screen for four hours all weekend doing it. How dare someone inject politics into America's favorite pastime!

I understand that, but that doesn't mean the players can't be people. I have to admit that I don't care about football. I know some people treat it very seriously, and that probably leads to a lot of the offense in this case, but it is just a game. Everybody needs to calm down.
 
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How is it a strawman? We've had numerous threads with people saying "I don't like them, but they should be allowed to speak", but then Kaepernick kneels and conservatives freak out.

No one is asking for a law to be enacted to prohibit people from kneeling. No one is asking for a mob to assault Kaepernick for kneeling. Everyone agrees he has the right to kneel.
 
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Gotta go with President Trump on this one.

So you don't agree with the first amendment. Is it something you'd like to see completely out of your constitution?
 
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It pisses me off and it should piss off the people of Alabama that Trump in his babbling speech made it a point to call out Kaepernick. What does Kaepernick have to do with Alabama? Oh, let me guess he’s mixed race.

Trump goes to Alabama to fire up his base and of course, in Trump’s bigoted brain, the best way to fire up his dwidling base is to accuse a non-white American of not being a by god patriot, while attempting to use a fake Southern accent.

Ironically standing up for the national anthem is probably the only “patriotic” thing Trump has ever done.

^^^ This.

He's called out/insulted Jemelle Hill, Colin Kaepernick and Steph Curry.

Golly. Am I seeing a pattern there?
 
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If a player engaged in a 'quiet act of political dissent' but giving a Nazi salute during the national anthem, would you consider him a 'son of a bitch?'

Not at all. Both are engaged in political activism. Show some intellectual courage and answer the question.

This is like equating someone taking their hat off during the national anthem and someone taking all their clothes off during the national anthem by saying 'both are engaging in the removal of clothes'.
 
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No one has said kneeling during the national anthem is worse than white supremacists marching. You're the only one saying that.

They are treating it worse. The same people defending the free speech of neo-Nazis are yelling at Kaepernick. I'm not accusing people of supporting white supremacists, but I am accusing people of having a blatant double standard when it comes to free speech.
 
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Gotta go with President Trump on this one.

Just as long as you never ever cry about somebody being fired for shooting off their mouth.

Or any other private entity denying anybody their right to speak. Ever.
 
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Gotta go with President Trump on this one.


Clearly Don Cheeto Orange Monkey has no respect for other's opinions; he demonstrates his disdain for freedom of speech on a near daily basis.

Trump should just go get a room for himself & himself & his small hands .......... he can't get along with anyone else ............
 
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I understand that. My problem is the double standard. If you believe that not standing for the anthem is un-American and wrong then waving the Nazi flag should also be un-American and wrong.

Yeah...everyone thinks waving a Nazi flag is un-American and wrong.
 
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You misunderstand, intentionally. We don't LIKE what those idiots in the WS groups stand for, say or do. However if they choose to go to a protest that's their right.

It's the VENUE that these folks are protesting at, that we have an issue with.

It's fine that people have an issue with it but should an employer really have the right to dictate whether an individual stands during the national anthem?
 
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Breaking: words have meanings. That wasn't a strawman.

Of course it was, you just don't understand words well enough to realize it, and then look silly trying to call it out. Hilarious.
 
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I understand that, but that doesn't mean the players can't be people. I have to admit that I don't care about football. I know some people treat it very seriously, and that probably leads to a lot of the offense in this case, but it is just a game. Everybody needs to calm down.

It's amazing how many professional sports people have now since gone to Kaepernick's side. When months ago, he was seen as a joke. Major players in most major American sports are now bashing the President. The Republican Party can't seem to do that, publicly.

You simply can't claim all sides are to blame and then go around picking on ONE side.
 
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As a person who does not salute the flag or say the pledge, for faith reasons...it is simply a matter of showing respect for the country you live in and respect for the laws you live under...people seem to have lost sight of that...

I left the witnesses in disgust when I was about ten years old. Told the elders to their faces they were acting worldly and NOT expressing the image of Jehovah they had taught me.

That said, to this day I've never said the pledge nor sung the anthem.

It's all nothing but logos and trumpet bleating all saying, "Hey poor people. This logo and this song is all you need to go die for me."

Logos and imaginary lines. That's all flags and borders are.
 
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Kaepernick definitely did this for a cause. He refused to stand to make a point about racism in this country. It's certainly a more admirable cause than that of the neo-Nazis. I'm not even necessarily against Kaepernick being fired, but when people get more upset with him than the neo-Nazis that seems like a problem to me.

Probably because the neo-Nazis are a small marginalized group that no one likes, or looks up to, while athletes are public figures that have a national platform and get paid millions to entertain people, not to propagandize them by disrespecting the nation that's making them rich.
 
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No one has said kneeling during the national anthem is worse than white supremacists marching. You're the only one saying that.

To Trump it's worse. Trump had to be pulled kicking and screaming in front of a camera to condemn Nazis, only to reverse his position the next day. But condemning a guy for kneeling in quiet protest during the National Anthem? He did that one with the kind of energy and enthusiasm money can't buy.
 
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Of course it was, you just don't understand words well enough to realize it, and then look silly trying to call it out. Hilarious.

I know, you need to pretend that it was, but reality dictates otherwise, as usual. Simply asking a question doesn't equate to a strawman in this case.

Do you need some help with the vocabulary of logic? I'm happy to help.
 
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I love watching the credibility of trump supporters with regards to the first Amendment slowly circle around the drain.

I love watching you make vapid comments and think you've made an actual coherent point.
 
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Another clear sign of America turning to fascism. It has always bothered me all the flag waving and national anthem bs at American sports events.. not to mention the military guard often, but when the President, and his followers start to target those that dont agree with it in some way.. that is when you know that they are turning fascist. On top of that, they defend the "free speech" rights of Neo Nazi scum and well.. disgusting.

^---And that's what we call irony.
 
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So you do not believe in the US constitution/first amendment rights of people? Or where is there a law that says you "HAVE" to stand up for the national anthem?

No one is asking for a law to be passed to stop the behavior. They are merely saying that a private organization can address the actions of their employees while they are on company time. They can do all the kneeling they want somewhere else.
 
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Why is kneeling during a game worse than white supremacists marching? If conservatives want to pretend to be the ultimate guards of free speech maybe they should accept all types.

I dont know, maybe you should ask the millions of fans who aren't buying tickets are going to the games ?

The NFL is in serious trouble but the Left and the NFL is predicatbly and totally in the dark as to why.

Sure, the Left has given explicit instructions as to whats offensive and whats not, but in the end people will always decide for themselves

Hollywood is also in trouble as this was he worst Summer box office in over a decade, and no it has nothing to do with Rotten Tomatoes or crap films
 
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Yeah...everyone thinks waving a Nazi flag is un-American and wrong.

The problem is that the neo-Nazis aren't considered "wrong", because we have freedom of speech, but Kaepernick is considered wrong because football.
 
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strawman alert!!!
Maybe Conservatives can work to get legislation passed through to make it mandatory to stand during the national anthem. That’d be cool right?
 
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It pisses me off and it should piss off the people of Alabama that Trump in his babbling speech made it a point to call out Kaepernick. What does Kaepernick have to do with Alabama? Oh, let me guess he’s mixed race.

Trump goes to Alabama to fire up his base and of course, in Trump’s bigoted brain, the best way to fire up his dwidling base is to accuse a non-white American of not being a by god patriot, while attempting to use a fake Southern accent.

Ironically standing up for the national anthem is probably the only “patriotic” thing Trump has ever done.

There's the race card. Good job!

Meanwhile, in adult world, we're talking about actions.
 
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It's amazing how many professional sports people have now since gone to Kaepernick's side. When months ago, he was seen as a joke. Major players in most major American sports are now bashing the President. The Republican Party can't seem to do that, publicly.

You simply can't claim all sides are to blame and then go around picking on ONE side.

Yea theyre not too bright.
Theyre supporting Kapernick and killing the golden goose.
I hope its worth it to them and the league
 
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Trump sowing chaos and division as usual. If he had said "I disagree with protesting the National Anthem but I respect their right first amendment right to do so, and it's the NFL's purview to address the issue as they choose," every living organism in the country would have said, "Yep, that's reasonable."

But it's so much more fun to pit Americans against each other as he always does.
 
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