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The Situation in Myanmar - who wants 313,000 Muslims?[W:215]

PraiseKek said:
It's not ethnic cleansing it's self defense against a Islamic terrorist insurgency that has been ongoing since 1946.
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No, it's a continuation of the Burmese/Myanmar military dictatorships efforts to rid their country of anyone who doesn't fully support them. They've been doing the same kind of thing to the Karen people (Buddhists, animists and Christians) for decades and now they are working on pushing out these people. Burma/Myanmar has one of the most horrific human rights records among any nation.
 
John Prewett said:
Everyone (with eyes) can see YOU are the one disdaining context. The context of CENTURIES of Muslim violent aggression against ALL neighboring cultures.
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You didn't answer my question. Are you in support of this Ethnic Cleansing Campaign and the associated Genocide?
 
faithful_servant said:
That's been my question through every "Muslim refugee crisis".
https://insideislam.wisc.edu/2012/04/helping-others-a-core-principle-of-islam/
Muslims are EXPLICITLY instructed to help out their own poor and yet they seem to let that little piece slide when it's politically expedient.
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Why is Muslim refugee crisis in quotation marks?

The Syrian Refugee Crisis is one such example. It's real and it's actually happening. To suggest otherwise is beyond nuts.

It shouldn't be your question if you are paying attention. If so, you would already know that the vast majority of refugees ARE being housed in neighbouring Countries.

The majority of Syria’s 5.1 million refugees have fled — by land and sea — across borders to neighboring countries, but remain in the Middle East (as of June 2017):

Syrian refugee crisis map of where refugees have fled to escape a violent civil war.

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And here are the estimated numbers of those displaced from their homeland and being housed elsewhere.


Turkey – 3 million Syrian refugees are currently in Turkey.
Lebanon – 1 million Syrian refugees are currently in Lebanon.
Jordan – 660,000 Syrian refugees are currently in Jordan.
Iraq – 242,000 Syrian refugees are currently in Iraq.
Egypt – 122,000 Syrian refugees are currently in Egypt.
 
John Prewett said:
Everyone (with eyes) can see YOU are the one disdaining context. The context of CENTURIES of Muslim violent aggression against ALL neighboring cultures.
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Crusaders, Conquistadors, Inquisition, The slaughter of native peoples in the Western Hemisphere, Australia, etc.

Centuries of Christian violence aggression against all neighboring cultures
 
Serenity said:
Why is Muslim refugee crisis in quotation marks?

The Syrian Refugee Crisis is one such example. It's real and it's actually happening. To suggest otherwise is beyond nuts.

It shouldn't be your question if you are paying attention. If so, you would already know that the vast majority of refugees ARE being housed in neighbouring Countries.

The majority of Syria’s 5.1 million refugees have fled — by land and sea — across borders to neighboring countries, but remain in the Middle East (as of June 2017):

Syrian refugee crisis map of where refugees have fled to escape a violent civil war.

refugee-map1-e1479430254147.jpg



And here are the estimated numbers of those displaced from their homeland and being housed elsewhere.


Turkey – 3 million Syrian refugees are currently in Turkey.
Lebanon – 1 million Syrian refugees are currently in Lebanon.
Jordan – 660,000 Syrian refugees are currently in Jordan.
Iraq – 242,000 Syrian refugees are currently in Iraq.
Egypt – 122,000 Syrian refugees are currently in Egypt.
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That's really interesting, for real. I didn't know this.
 
Fledermaus said:
Crusaders, Conquistadors, Inquisition, The slaughter of native peoples in the Western Hemisphere, Australia, etc.

Centuries of Christian violence aggression against all neighboring cultures
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Damn, I usually try to be first with the Crusades/Inquisition line.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
Thinking about all those earnest experts telling me about how the global elite are doing a bang up job and how I must be nuts to have joined The Rebellion as I read these kinds of stories is good for barrels of laughs.
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"The Rebellion" is a bad joke.
 
PraiseKek said:
It's not ethnic cleansing it's self defense against a Islamic terrorist insurgency that has been ongoing since 1946.
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Utterly false. We have been over this over and over and over again. The insurgency only started when the "Myanmar" government started doing what it does best---killing unarmed civilians.
 
X Factor said:
If you can't laugh at genocide, what can you laugh at?
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I corrected it for you.

X Factor said:
This from the guy who makes many broad brush statements about Christians. If these were Christians instead, you wouldn't even be participating in the thread.
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If people were laughing about genociding christians, yes I would call them out on it. I assume this is another ****ty attempt by you to straw man me into what you want me to believe instead of actually reading what I'm saying.
 
John Prewett said:
Myanmar Islam versus Buddhist conflict should be seen in light of the following:
During the nine-month-long Bangladesh war (1971) ......, members of the Pakistani (Muslim) military and supporting Islamist militias .....

killed up to 3,000,000 people and raped between 200,000 and 400,000 Bangladeshi women,according to Bangladeshi and Indian sources,
in a systematic campaign of genocidal rape.
………….
The actions against women were supported by Muslim religious leaders, who declared that Bengali women were gonimoter maal
(Bengali for "public property").

And CENTURIES of Muslim aggression against Hindus and Buddhist in India and Afghanistan, Mayasia, and Thailand (nearly all Buddhist killed or driven out of southernmost Thailand.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1971_Bangladesh_genocide
https://themuslimissue.wordpress.co...on-of-india-the-greatest-genocide-in-history/
https://youtu.be/VPRwzB_1YEk

June 8, 2012 After Friday prayers thousands of Muslims attacked Buddhist in Maungdaw Myanmar.
https://www.hrw.org/report/2012/07/...ian-violence-and-ensuing-abuses-burmas-arakan
This premeditated Muslim attack was comparable to the 1572 Roman Catholic St Bartholomew massacre of Protestants.

Context of Muslim aggression in Myanmar is CENTURIES of Muslim violent aggression against Hindus and Buddhist.
Put simply, Islam demands to rule the world.
Papacy is using Islam as a tool to bring down all "sovereign" nations/governments.
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What the actual ****? What the **** does the Papacy have to with anything?

And no, "Islam" does not "demand to rule the world".
 
X Factor said:
That's really interesting, for real. I didn't know this.
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What you might also find interesting...

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Serenity said:
Why is Muslim refugee crisis in quotation marks?

The Syrian Refugee Crisis is one such example. It's real and it's actually happening. To suggest otherwise is beyond nuts.

It shouldn't be your question if you are paying attention. If so, you would already know that the vast majority of refugees ARE being housed in neighbouring Countries.

The majority of Syria’s 5.1 million refugees have fled — by land and sea — across borders to neighboring countries, but remain in the Middle East (as of June 2017):

Syrian refugee crisis map of where refugees have fled to escape a violent civil war.

refugee-map1-e1479430254147.jpg



And here are the estimated numbers of those displaced from their homeland and being housed elsewhere.


Turkey – 3 million Syrian refugees are currently in Turkey.
Lebanon – 1 million Syrian refugees are currently in Lebanon.
Jordan – 660,000 Syrian refugees are currently in Jordan.
Iraq – 242,000 Syrian refugees are currently in Iraq.
Egypt – 122,000 Syrian refugees are currently in Egypt.
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Because it wouldn't be a crisis if the other Islamic nations would step up to the plate and take them in... This isn't so much a crisis of refugees as it is a crisis of taking responsibility for your own.
 
Jesse Booth said:
I can't really call it a failing, but you have an unhealthy amount of respect for mankind if you can't bring yourself to laugh at genocide every once in a while.
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lol...holy **** dude...haha :lol:
 
Serenity said:
The comment specifically relates to laughing at genocide. What is funny about genocide? What is there to actually laugh about?
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We've had jokes about rape, murder, bestiality, and countless other appalling vices since the dawn of civilization. Regardless of whether you find them funny or not, there's clearly an element of dark humor that resonates with a great many people, usually predicated on the idea that the subject matter being joked about is awful and vile. Seeing the irony, and then making light of in Buddhists attacking Muslims is no more approving of genocide than a dead baby joke is an approval of infant mortality. It is simply a recognition of the blatant contradiction between how America views Buddhism and Islam, and how the followers of these religions are actually behaving. In many cases, it's as simple and stupid as saying something blatantly false and/or utterly insane, like "Hitler did nothing wrong."

I apologize for stating this tangent with you - it clearly isn't your cup of tea, and is just an unnecessary distraction from the subject matter at hand.
 
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Jesse Booth said:
I can't really call it a failing, but you have an unhealthy amount of respect for mankind if you can't bring yourself to laugh at genocide every once in a while.
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You sound like a Monty Python fan

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Serenity said:
Reorters on the scene are saying that 300,000 or more members of the Rohingya community (of Muslim faith) in Buddhist-majority Myanmar have fled across the border into Muslim-majority Bangladesh in the past two weeks. The refugees have been describing to reporters a litany of human rights abuses: homes burned, women raped, men beheaded, and more.

https://www.brookings.edu/blog/up-f...e-solution-to-the-rohingya-crisis-in-myanmar/

Do not even attempt to suggest that the horrific numbers being seen of those affected by the most recent escalations are because they are all terrorists and that crimes committed against women and children in particular are "self defense."

Utter, dehumanizing, garbage.
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They should not of messed with their monuments.

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PraiseKek said:
It's not ethnic cleansing it's self defense against a Islamic terrorist insurgency that has been ongoing since 1946.
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What a load of crap. There have been a few (very few) instances of Muslims resisting the persecution but it's all been a sad story of government-led, government-sponsored persecution of an ethnic minority.
 
Serenity said:
Perhaps I'm just weird to believe this, but there is nothing even remotely cool about genocide.
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I've been discussing the Myanmar genocide in other places, and I find it incredibly sad to experience the utter disregard people have for the topic when it comes to Muslims being the victims. If these were Jews, Armenians or Serbians you would not be able to step one iota out of political correctness while talking about it without suffering reprisals. But suddenly because it's 300,000 Muslims getting the rough end of the stick, there's room for all kinds of weird conversational diversions.

People just don't give a ****. The Myanmar military junta is one of the most brutal dictatorships in the world who would love nothing more than to ethnically cleanse their whole country, and the west couldn't give a damn. It's so, so sad how people's biases and prejudices blind them and suppress all their compassion.
 
spud_meister said:
You don't get the irony behind Buddhists, seen as peaceful hippies*, perpetrating a genocide against Muslims, who are seen as violent*?

*in the predominant stereotypes of the West.
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It's only ironic if you are totally ignorant.

SE Asia and Western China have a rich history of Buddhist violence, war and ethnic cleansing.

Here's a great primer. I even took a whole 10 seconds to type "Buddhist violence" into Google for you.

Enjoy the irony. :roll:
 
Northern Light said:
It's only ironic if you are totally ignorant.

SE Asia and Western China have a rich history of Buddhist violence, war and ethnic cleansing.

Here's a great primer. I even took a whole 10 seconds to type "Buddhist violence" into Google for you.

Enjoy the irony. :roll:
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The irony comes from the common perception of the religions in western pop culture, it's not based in reality.
 
spud_meister said:
The irony comes from the common perception of the religions in western pop culture, it's not based in reality.
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Westerners are practicing a watered down version of Buddhism anyway. I call it mix-and-match spirituality. Take what you like from a tradition and then ditch the rest. It's part of our colonial roots.

P.S. Sorry for eating your head off in the last post. I have a friend doing humanitarian work in the region right now and some of the stuff I've heard...:shock: I'm a little less tolerant to any perceived partisan hackery in this department right now!
 
Fledermaus said:
Crusaders, Conquistadors, Inquisition, The slaughter of native peoples in the Western Hemisphere, Australia, etc.

Centuries of Christian violence aggression against all neighboring cultures
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What you (and other deceived/dishonest anti-Christ) call "Christians" executing the "violence aggression" were in fact Pope follwers, not Christ followers. Thus the violent aggression you cite was Papist vioence. Not Christian.

Furthermore, Christians (labeled "heretics" by the Papist) were the chief target/victims of the Papist Inquisitions. The perps were Papist.

(well, let's see if I again get banned FOR REFUTING A LIAR .... the liar being the one who injected "Christian" into this thread, not me)
 
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