The Situation in Myanmar - who wants 313,000 Muslims?[W:215]

Media_Truth · Sep 20, 2017

The situation in Myanmar has been described as ethnic cleansing. The Rohingya Muslims are being driven out of the country. Over 313,000 refugees are now setting up makeshift camps in Bangladesh, and another 20,000 per day are crossing the border. In addition, India wants to deport 40,000 Rohingya Muslims from their country.

Apparent 'Ethnic Cleansing' Is Now Unfolding In Myanmar, U.N. Says : The Two-Way : NPR
The U.N.'s migration agency says migrants continue to cross the border at a staggering rate of 20,000 a day. Spread across seven sites in Bangladesh's Cox's Bazar district, the refugees are straining the capacities of settlements unprepared for such an influx, leaving new arrivals in "urgent need of life-saving assistance, including food, water and sanitation, health and protection."

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/aung-san-suu-kyi-not-095300771.html

Daw Aung San Suu Kyi, the widow who defied Burma’s dictators, endured a total of 15 years of house arrest and led a campaign for democracy, was a hero of modern times. Yet today Daw Suu, as the effective leader of Burma, is chief apologist for this ethnic cleansing, as the country oppresses the darker-skinned Rohingya and denounces them as terrorists and illegal immigrants.

And “ethnic cleansing” may be an understatement. Even before the latest wave of terror, a Yale study had suggested that the brutality toward the Rohingya might qualify as genocide. The US Holocaust Museum has also warned that genocide against the Rohingya may be looming.

The situation is a mess. Human death and suffering is rampant. No worldly solution is forthcoming.

reinoe · Sep 20, 2017

Surely Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and the rest of the wealthy Arab gulf states can take in these refugees. Or maybe Europeans can take in these refugees. Either way, there's no reason for the U.S. to get involved.

Bum · Sep 20, 2017

Call it what it is, its an ethnic and political hot potato that no nation wants to touch; everyone on the outside looking in see's several things.....the possibility of armed conflict with UN "peace keepers", an influx of refugee's that no nation wants, associated costs with movement, housing, resettlement, and fears about the refugees inability to adapt in a host country which will lead to another diaspora.

Where have we seen this before??

joG · Sep 20, 2017

Media_Truth said:
The situation in Myanmar has been described as ethnic cleansing. The Rohingya Muslims are being driven out of the country. Over 313,000 refugees are now setting up makeshift camps in Bangladesh, and another 20,000 per day are crossing the border. In addition, India wants to deport 40,000 Rohingya Muslims from their country.

Apparent 'Ethnic Cleansing' Is Now Unfolding In Myanmar, U.N. Says : The Two-Way : NPR
The U.N.'s migration agency says migrants continue to cross the border at a staggering rate of 20,000 a day. Spread across seven sites in Bangladesh's Cox's Bazar district, the refugees are straining the capacities of settlements unprepared for such an influx, leaving new arrivals in "urgent need of life-saving assistance, including food, water and sanitation, health and protection."

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/aung-san-suu-kyi-not-095300771.html
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Daw Aung San Suu Kyi, the widow who defied Burma’s dictators, endured a total of 15 years of house arrest and led a campaign for democracy, was a hero of modern times. Yet today Daw Suu, as the effective leader of Burma, is chief apologist for this ethnic cleansing, as the country oppresses the darker-skinned Rohingya and denounces them as terrorists and illegal immigrants.

And “ethnic cleansing” may be an understatement. Even before the latest wave of terror, a Yale study had suggested that the brutality toward the Rohingya might qualify as genocide. The US Holocaust Museum has also warned that genocide against the Rohingya may be looming.

The situation is a mess. Human death and suffering is rampant. No worldly solution is forthcoming.

What is cool in its perverted way, is that this is a genocide being perped by Buddhists.

Serenity · Sep 20, 2017

joG said:
What is cool in its perverted way, is that this is a genocide being perped by Buddhists.

Perhaps I'm just weird to believe this, but there is nothing even remotely cool about genocide.

Brochacholomigo · Sep 20, 2017

Serenity said:
Perhaps I'm just weird to believe this, but there is nothing even remotely cool about genocide.

I can't really call it a failing, but you have an unhealthy amount of respect for mankind if you can't bring yourself to laugh at genocide every once in a while.

Brochacholomigo · Sep 20, 2017

joG said:
What is cool in its perverted way, is that this is a genocide being perped by Buddhists.

I bet they won't make a karate movie about these monks.

Hawkeye10 · Sep 20, 2017

Jesse Booth said:
I can't really call it a failing, but you have an unhealthy amount of respect for mankind if you can't bring yourself to laugh at genocide every once in a while.

Thinking about all those earnest experts telling me about how the global elite are doing a bang up job and how I must be nuts to have joined The Rebellion as I read these kinds of stories is good for barrels of laughs.

Brochacholomigo · Sep 20, 2017

Hawkeye10 said:
Thinking about all those earnest experts telling me about how the global elite are doing a bang up job and how I must be nuts to have joined The Rebellion as I read these kinds of stories is good for barrels of laughs.

Good. The world needs more laughter, regardless of the source. Almost regardless.

Serenity · Sep 20, 2017

Jesse Booth said:
I can't really call it a failing, but you have an unhealthy amount of respect for mankind if you can't bring yourself to laugh at genocide every once in a while.

I don't give much of a crap that you think it's bad that I can't bring myself to laugh at actual genocide that is occuring as we speak Jesse.

So glad we cleared that up.

Verax · Sep 20, 2017

Hawkeye10 said:
Thinking about all those earnest experts telling me about how the global elite are doing a bang up job and how I must be nuts to have joined The Rebellion as I read these kinds of stories is good for barrels of laughs.

Are you a confused storm trooper?

RabidAlpaca · Sep 20, 2017

Jesse Booth said:
I can't really call it a failing, but you have an unhealthy amount of respect for mankind if you can't bring yourself to laugh at genocide every once in a while.

What the hell is the matter with you?

spud_meister · Sep 20, 2017

RabidAlpaca said:
What the hell is the matter with you?

You don't get the irony behind Buddhists, seen as peaceful hippies*, perpetrating a genocide against Muslims, who are seen as violent*?

*in the predominant stereotypes of the West.

PraiseKek · Sep 20, 2017

Media_Truth said:
The situation in Myanmar has been described as ethnic cleansing. The Rohingya Muslims are being driven out of the country. Over 313,000 refugees are now setting up makeshift camps in Bangladesh, and another 20,000 per day are crossing the border. In addition, India wants to deport 40,000 Rohingya Muslims from their country.

Apparent 'Ethnic Cleansing' Is Now Unfolding In Myanmar, U.N. Says : The Two-Way : NPR
The U.N.'s migration agency says migrants continue to cross the border at a staggering rate of 20,000 a day. Spread across seven sites in Bangladesh's Cox's Bazar district, the refugees are straining the capacities of settlements unprepared for such an influx, leaving new arrivals in "urgent need of life-saving assistance, including food, water and sanitation, health and protection."

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/aung-san-suu-kyi-not-095300771.html
View attachment 67222969
Daw Aung San Suu Kyi, the widow who defied Burma’s dictators, endured a total of 15 years of house arrest and led a campaign for democracy, was a hero of modern times. Yet today Daw Suu, as the effective leader of Burma, is chief apologist for this ethnic cleansing, as the country oppresses the darker-skinned Rohingya and denounces them as terrorists and illegal immigrants.

And “ethnic cleansing” may be an understatement. Even before the latest wave of terror, a Yale study had suggested that the brutality toward the Rohingya might qualify as genocide. The US Holocaust Museum has also warned that genocide against the Rohingya may be looming.

The situation is a mess. Human death and suffering is rampant. No worldly solution is forthcoming.

It's not ethnic cleansing it's self defense against a Islamic terrorist insurgency that has been ongoing since 1946.

Serenity · Sep 20, 2017

PraiseKek said:
It's not ethnic cleansing it's self defense against a Islamic terrorist insurgency that has been ongoing since 1946.

Reorters on the scene are saying that 300,000 or more members of the Rohingya community (of Muslim faith) in Buddhist-majority Myanmar have fled across the border into Muslim-majority Bangladesh in the past two weeks. The refugees have been describing to reporters a litany of human rights abuses: homes burned, women raped, men beheaded, and more.

https://www.brookings.edu/blog/up-f...e-solution-to-the-rohingya-crisis-in-myanmar/

Do not even attempt to suggest that the horrific numbers being seen of those affected by the most recent escalations are because they are all terrorists and that crimes committed against women and children in particular are "self defense."

Utter, dehumanizing, garbage.

Litwin · Sep 20, 2017

Media_Truth said:
The situation in Myanmar has been described as ethnic cleansing. The Rohingya Muslims are being driven out of the country. Over 313,000 refugees are now setting up makeshift camps in Bangladesh, and another 20,000 per day are crossing the border. In addition, India wants to deport 40,000 Rohingya Muslims from their country.

Apparent 'Ethnic Cleansing' Is Now Unfolding In Myanmar, U.N. Says : The Two-Way : NPR
The U.N.'s migration agency says migrants continue to cross the border at a staggering rate of 20,000 a day. Spread across seven sites in Bangladesh's Cox's Bazar district, the refugees are straining the capacities of settlements unprepared for such an influx, leaving new arrivals in "urgent need of life-saving assistance, including food, water and sanitation, health and protection."

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/aung-san-suu-kyi-not-095300771.html
View attachment 67222969
Daw Aung San Suu Kyi, the widow who defied Burma’s dictators, endured a total of 15 years of house arrest and led a campaign for democracy, was a hero of modern times. Yet today Daw Suu, as the effective leader of Burma, is chief apologist for this ethnic cleansing, as the country oppresses the darker-skinned Rohingya and denounces them as terrorists and illegal immigrants.

And “ethnic cleansing” may be an understatement. Even before the latest wave of terror, a Yale study had suggested that the brutality toward the Rohingya might qualify as genocide. The US Holocaust Museum has also warned that genocide against the Rohingya may be looming.

The situation is a mess. Human death and suffering is rampant. No worldly solution is forthcoming.

as kaiser said , "entire MENA (Muslim world) doesn´t cost life one my solders....non Muslim country has a dynamic economy, non of them can take he Rohingya

Evilroddy · Sep 20, 2017

PraiseKek said:
It's not ethnic cleansing it's self defense against a Islamic terrorist insurgency that has been ongoing since 1946.

Welcome to planet PraiseKek, where up is down, wrong is right and atrocities against women and children are self-defence against Islamic terrorism. Man, the PraiseKek world-view of Earth is skewed. You need a new telescope, dude!

The Rohingya people have been there for 1200 years! The government of Myanmar/Burma has been overtly oppressing them since long before WWII. Rakhine state militias and paramilitaries have been terrorising these people for decades. The killings of Rohingya civillians has accelerated dramatically since 2013. Now strong evidence of massacres and ethnic cleansing can be seen clearly through satellite imagery and leaked video. The Rohingya armed resistance is a reaction to this oppression but is not the root cause of it. And the world does nothing because most of the people who are dying are Muslims of dark skin-tones. They are human beings first and browner Muslims secondly, but we use colour and creed as excuses to avoid helping desperate humans in mortal peril.

Daw Aung San Suu Kyi watches on in irrational and stunned denial, refusing to acknowledge what her own government and people are doing. The world turns its metaphorical back and then, when the cleansing and killing has run its final course, we will wring our hands and lament, while asking, "How could we have let this happen?". It is Rwanda all over again but Islamophobes like PraiseKek would have us believe it's a legitimate counterinsurgency operation. The self-delusion and manipulation is rank and pervasive on both planet PraiseKek and our own planet Earth.

Canada is full of wide open spaces. We'll take some of these victims of murderous nationalism and offer them a chance for a life of peace, free of persecution and mass murder. So, how about the rest of you? Will you do your part or will you let them die, trapped between a Bangladesh which doesn't want them and a Myanmar which wants to kill them? So pony up or shut-up and live with your own inhumanity if you deny them life and hope. You can't stop the butchers of Burma but you can give sanctuary and relief to the sacrificial victims of Burmese nationalism and Buddhist religious intolerance.

Welcome to planet Earth, where up is down, wrong is right and atrocities against women and children are self-defence against Muslim terrorism.

With despair.
Evilroddy.

calamity · Sep 20, 2017

Jesse Booth said:
I can't really call it a failing, but you have an unhealthy amount of respect for mankind if you can't bring yourself to laugh at genocide every once in a while.

And here I thought I had a cynical view on my fellow man. :lol:

calamity · Sep 20, 2017

PraiseKek said:
It's not ethnic cleansing it's self defense against a Islamic terrorist insurgency that has been ongoing since 1946.

Let me guess...Trump supporter?

holbritter · Sep 20, 2017

Evilroddy said:
Welcome to planet PraiseKek, where up is down, wrong is right and atrocities against women and children are self-defence against Islamic terrorism. Man, the PraiseKek world-view of Earth is skewed. You need a new telescope, dude!

The Rohingya people have been there for 1200 years! The government of Myanmar/Burma has been overtly oppressing them since long before WWII. Rakhine state militias and paramilitaries have been terrorising these people for decades. The killings of Rohingya civillians has accelerated dramatically since 2013. Now strong evidence of massacres and ethnic cleansing can be seen clearly through satellite imagery and leaked video. The Rohingya armed resistance is a reaction to this oppression but is not the root cause of it. And the world does nothing because most of the people who are dying are Muslims of dark skin-tones. They are human beings first and browner Muslims secondly, but we use colour and creed as excuses to avoid helping desperate humans in mortal peril.

Daw Aung San Suu Kyi watches on in irrational and stunned denial, refusing to acknowledge what her own government and people are doing. The world turns its metaphorical back and then, when the cleansing and killing has run its final course, we will wring our hands and lament, while asking, "How could we have let this happen?". It is Rwanda all over again but Islamophobes like PraiseKek would have us believe it's a legitimate counterinsurgency operation. The self-delusion and manipulation is rank and pervasive on both planet PraiseKek and our own planet Earth.

Canada is full of wide open spaces. We'll take some of these victims of murderous nationalism and offer them a chance for a life of peace, free of persecution and mass murder. So, how about the rest of you? Will you do your part or will you let them die, trapped between a Bangladesh which doesn't want them and a Myanmar which wants to kill them? So pony up or shut-up and live with your own inhumanity if you deny them life and hope. You can't stop the butchers of Burma but you can give sanctuary and relief to the sacrificial victims of Burmese nationalism and Buddhist religious intolerance.

Welcome to planet Earth, where up is down, wrong is right and atrocities against women and children are self-defence against Muslim terrorism.

With despair.
Evilroddy.

What I think should be done by the UN with the support of all countries is to pressure the Myanmar government to acknowledge the Rohingya people as one of the countries ethnic groups and leave them alone.

RabidAlpaca · Sep 20, 2017

PraiseKek said:
It's not ethnic cleansing it's self defense against a Islamic terrorist insurgency that has been ongoing since 1946.

Only if you consider all muslims to be automatically terrorists. Totally ignorant and disgusting position you've got there.

spud_meister said:
You don't get the irony behind Buddhists, seen as peaceful hippies*, perpetrating a genocide against Muslims, who are seen as violent*?
*in the predominant stereotypes of the West.

There's nothing funny or ironic about genocide. Individuals do not have to match the stereotypes people arbitrarily saddle their group with.

Bum · Sep 20, 2017

holbritter said:
What I think should be done by the UN with the support of all countries is to pressure the Myanmar government to acknowledge the Rohingya people as one of the countries ethnic groups and leave them alone.

Unfortunately, the UN does not have a very good track record intervening in ethnic violence issues....take a look at Kosovo, Rwanda, etc....its a bit dismal.

Chagos · Sep 20, 2017

PraiseKek said:
It's not ethnic cleansing it's self defense against a Islamic terrorist insurgency that has been ongoing since 1946.

An assessment as ignorant of actual history of the region and peoples as it then, consequently, must be idiotic in conclusion.

Chagos · Sep 20, 2017

One aspect also being overlooked is the precarious position in which Aung San Suu Kyi and her government remain, in face of a military that could at any moment retake power by a coup.

That serves neither as an excuse for letting the situation continue along the way it's going, nor does it make the whole tragedy any less severe.

Yet risking the wobbly "democracy" just recently gained for round 53 million people by speaking out clearly against the powers that could easily re-establish the military dictatorship of the past, may not seem prudent when doing it on account of "just" 2 pct of the population, be those generally unpopular or not.

No doubt elements of cynicism are involved in Suu Kyi's nebulous stance, yet pragmatism is rarely governed by a sense of absolute justice.

Since none of us (meaning the Western powers now so indignant) are remotely prepared to bolster Myanmar's "democracy" by any "robust" measures, perhaps a bit more restraint would be adequate over Suu Kyi deciding that the Rohingya issue is not the hill that she and her people want to die on.

John Prewett · Sep 20, 2017

PraiseKek said:
It's not ethnic cleansing it's self defense against a Islamic terrorist insurgency that has been ongoing since 1946.

Muslim conquests on the Indian subcontinent mainly took place from the 12th to the 16th centuries, though earlier Muslim conquests made limited inroads into modern Afghanistan and Pakistan as early as the time of the Rajput kingdoms in the 8th century. With the establishment of the Delhi Sultanate, Islam spread across large parts of the subcontinent. In 1204, Bakhtiar Khilji led the Muslim conquest of Bengal, marking the eastern-most expansion of Islam at the time

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