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Improvised bomb on the Tube in London...

Do you know why there are very few trash cans in central London? Literally, you can walk for half a mile without finding a trash can, it's annoying as hell.

Well, the reason for that is because the IRA liked to put bombs in them. Ya know, the whitest of white people.

London's history with terrorism comes from all kinds of places. I'm sorry if that doesn't fit your narrative about the evil brown people, but that's the reality of the matter.

To identify al Qaida, ISIL, and similar groups as Islamic terrorist organizations and acknowledge the risk they pose to even the most innocent of people everywhere is not any kind of diatribe against 'evil brown people' any more than condemning the propensity of the IRA and Provisional IRA to commit similar acts of terrorism is any kind of diatribe against 'evil white people.' They are what they are. Islamic terrorism has included white, black, brown, and Asian people.

To suspect Islamic terrorists for the attack this morning is entirely reasonable. To put a racial I.D. on it not so much.
 
The British PM should focus more on her and her predecessors irresponsible policies that enabled these jihadi scum to murder innocent people and less on Trumps tweets

Donald's tweets represent USA foreign policy.

The British PM is a conservative. Donald should have cleared his tweets with Gen. Kelly before playing politics with terrorism.

Too bad Donald doesn't seek out Nancy and Chuck before every tweet ...
 
To identify al Qaida, ISIL, and similar groups as Islamic terrorist organizations and acknowledge the risk they pose to even the most innocent of people everywhere is not any kind of diatribe against 'evil brown people' any more than condemning the propensity of the IRA and Provisional IRA to commit similar acts of terrorism is any kind of diatribe against 'evil white people.' They are what they are. Islamic terrorism has included white, black, brown, and Asian people.

To suspect Islamic terrorists for the attack this morning is entirely reasonable. To put a racial I.D. on it not so much.

I'm not saying it isn't reasonable to automatically rule it in. It isn't. But they aren't the only ones, even just this year.
 
I'm not even denying that, apart from that we know this was an Islamist. We don't -- they're still trying to figure out possible suspects. And even within the last few months, we've had terrorists who WEREN'T Islamists.

I'm saying your idea that all terrorism in Europe is by Islamists is absurdly ignorant. It simply isn't.

Who's fault is it that sooo many people including myself equate bombings of civillians to Islamist ?

My instinct is to blame Islamist and I stopped feeling guilty about it long ago.

These attacks were predicted, hell ISIS anounced they were infiltrating the refugee populations but European leaders continued to allow hundreds of thousands of refugees to stream in

They knew there were going to be attacks, hell everyone knew there were going to be atacks. Leaders like Merkel put the agenda of open borders and mutliculturalism before the safety an security of their own citizens and thats unforgivable.
 
Yup, not surprised. I'd say roughly 80% of the stories I'm seeing right now are from tabloids that would rather be first than right. They aren't familiar names in America. Ignore anything from the Sun, Daily Star, the Mirror, the Express -- all tabloids. Look for Telegraph, Guardian, BBC, etc.

Who would have ever thought that a magazine called the Express would jump to hasty conclusions?
 
I'm not saying it isn't reasonable to automatically rule it in. It isn't. But they aren't the only ones, even just this year.

Again, the attack on the mosque was not the same thing as orchestrated and group think terrorism. As terrible as that was, it was something quite different. All the other attacks in London this year were identified with or were considered likely to be inspired by or instigated by ISIS or whatever Islamic terrorist group. Since the turn of the Century, all attacks identified as terrorism except for two in the U.K. have been committed by Islamic terrorists. It is simply short sighted and foolish not to consider this current attack as probable, not possibly, linked to Islamic terrorism.
 
Donald's tweets represent USA foreign policy.

The British PM is a conservative. Donald should have cleared his tweets with Gen. Kelly before playing politics with terrorism.

Too bad Donald doesn't seek out Nancy and Chuck before every tweet ...

Lol....Nonsense. Theyre just tweets probably made just to keep the media and the Democrats and their supporters enraged

They have no bearing on American Foreign policy.
And the British PM is a British Conservative which believe it or not has far more in common with American Liberalism than it does Conservatism.

No Conservative I know supports Socialized medicine. She and her predeccesor are responsible for these continued attacks on innocent civillians as is Merkel and Hollande.

Any Nation that closed down its borders and refused to allow hundreds of thousands of unvetted Muslim refugees in was attacked and their leaders labeled as " Islamaphobic " by the people that support this open borders agenda.
 
Lol....Nonsense. Theyre just tweets probably made just to keep the media and the Democrats and their supporters enraged

They have no bearing on American Foreign policy.
And the British PM is a British Conservative which believe it or not has far more in common with American Liberalism than it does Conservatism.

No Conservative I know supports Socialized medicine. She and her predeccesor are responsible for these continued attacks on innocent civillians as is Merkel and Hollande.

Any Nation that closed down its borders and refused to allow hundreds of thousands of unvetted Muslim refugees in was attacked and their leaders labeled as " Islamaphobic " by the people that support this open borders agenda.

Theresa is a Conservative and Donald's tweets are our foreign policy ...
 
Who's fault is it that sooo many people including myself equate bombings of civillians to Islamist ?

My instinct is to blame Islamist and I stopped feeling guilty about it long ago.

These attacks were predicted, hell ISIS anounced they were infiltrating the refugee populations but European leaders continued to allow hundreds of thousands of refugees to stream in

They knew there were going to be attacks, hell everyone knew there were going to be atacks. Leaders like Merkel put the agenda of open borders and mutliculturalism before the safety an security of their own citizens and thats unforgivable.

Fenton and to all:

Not to be snide or disrespectful, but based on my life experience, I equate bombing of civilians with American A-4s, A-7s, F-4s and B-52s over Indochina, American made Israeli A-4 Skyhawks and F-4 Phantoms over Egypt, Syria, Jordan and Iraq, American made or licensed F-16s and F-15s over Gaza, the West Bank, Syria and Lebanon, Soviet SU-23s, SU-25s and SU-27s over Afghanistan and the Caucasus region, American F-16s and F-117s over Serbia and Kosovo, American F-16s, F-18s and B-1s or B-2s over Iraq, Afghanistan, Iraq again and now Syria. As bad and as wrong as Islamist terrorism is (and it is profoundly evil) it pales in comparison to the state terrorism and civilian deaths associated with the great powers and their regional allies. Your perspective will vary.

Cheers?
Evilroddy.
 
Theresa is a Conservative and Donald's tweets are our foreign policy ...

Thats just silly and of-course there's a distinction between British Conservatives and American Conservatives.

American Conservatives believe in limited Govt as spelled out in the US Constituion, free market Capitalism, States rights, natural law, private property rights, the rights of the individual over the collective and the concept of inalienable rights, etc etc

You know, all those revolutionary principles that made this Nation truely exceptional

British Conservatives dont adhere to or tie their ideology to Americas founding documents or they principles within.

They have no issue with big Govt and socialized medicine. We all dont have membership cards and a secret handshake you know
 
Fenton and to all:

Not to be snide or disrespectful, but based on my life experience, I equate bombing of civilians with American A-4s, A-7s, F-4s and B-52s over Indochina, American made Israeli A-4 Skyhawks and F-4 Phantoms over Egypt, Syria, Jordan and Iraq, American made or licensed F-16s and F-15s over Gaza, the West Bank, Syria and Lebanon, Soviet SU-23s, SU-25s and SU-27s over Afghanistan and the Caucasus region, American F-16s and F-117s over Serbia and Kosovo, American F-16s, F-18s and B-1s or B-2s over Iraq, Afghanistan, Iraq again and now Syria. As bad and as wrong as Islamist terrorism is (and it is profoundly evil) it pales in comparison to the state terrorism and civilian deaths associated with the great powers and their regional allies. Your perspective will vary.

Cheers?
Evilroddy.

This post tells me all I need to know about you.

And for the record, it is snide and disrespectful. Sad that it's a couple days past 9/11 and you equate terrorism to actions taken during wars to the acts of actual terrorists like the ones that caused so much death on 9/11.

Disgusting.
 
Hows that multiculturalism working out for you Europe ?

Europes leaders have put bad policy over the safety and security of their citizens for years now and this is the predictable end result after allowing in millions of unvetted Muslim refugees

The Dems had every intention of doing the same here. The Dems have no issue puttung party and ideology over Country when it suites their needs

And there it is. The race-baiting. Like clockwork.
 
The Britush PM is not happy with Donald's tweets. Gen. Kelly must be out of town ...

If the Brits are upset out President Trump's tweets, then they have their priorities all ****ed up.
 
This post tells me all I need to know about you.

And for the record, it is snide and disrespectful. Sad that it's a couple days past 9/11 and you equate terrorism to actions taken during wars to the acts of actual terrorists like the ones that caused so much death on 9/11.

Disgusting.

Gill:

Alas, none of these actions happened during "wars" as no declarations of war were made by any of the powers involved. Just because killers wear senior officers' uniforms and order good men and women to perform acts of morally-suspect mass killing does not make the actions and orders of those senior officers legitimate or ethical. State terrorism is still terrorism.

Cheers.
Evilroddy.
 
If the Brits are upset out President Trump's tweets, then they have their priorities all ****ed up.

Gen. Kelly must have lost control of Donald's Twitter ...
 
Thats just silly and of-course there's a distinction between British Conservatives and American Conservatives.

American Conservatives believe in limited Govt as spelled out in the US Constituion, free market Capitalism, States rights, natural law, private property rights, the rights of the individual over the collective and the concept of inalienable rights, etc etc

You know, all those revolutionary principles that made this Nation truely exceptional

British Conservatives dont adhere to or tie their ideology to Americas founding documents or they principles within.

They have no issue with big Govt and socialized medicine. We all dont have membership cards and a secret handshake you know

Since when have American Conservatives believed in limited government ?
 
This post tells me all I need to know about you.

And for the record, it is snide and disrespectful. Sad that it's a couple days past 9/11 and you equate terrorism to actions taken during wars to the acts of actual terrorists like the ones that caused so much death on 9/11.

Disgusting.



What wars?

For the most part he seems to be referencing Vietnam for the most part. The US NEVER declared 'war' in Vietnam, in fact some believe the US engaged in illegal warfare along with the atrocities of mass murders of civilians. Yes they wore uniforms, were taking orders, but there was no more legal justification for Vietnam than for bombing the World Trade Center.

Now then lets look at Afghanistan. Where was "war" declared there? And yet the Us celebrated the illegal execution of Osama bin Laden...too ashamed of their own court system to make his crimes known.

What's "disgusting" is the attitude that because of some inane concept of "American Exceptionalism" the US can invade whoever they can justify to the public....a public that elected Donald Trump.

I have to go now, I'm laughing too hard to keep typing.
 
And there it is. The race-baiting. Like clockwork.

Oh the irony. Your'e the one that brought up race, hell youre the one thats race baiting.

Its the predictable response when these Left wing open border policies are challenged and its nonsense.

You people have gone to that well so many times the term " racist " has no meaning anymore.

I take that back. A " racist " is anyone on the Right who dares to criticize imbecillic Left wing initiatives or who dares to vote for the opposition.

Race baiting is the how and why over a million unvetted refugees from terror prone regions of the world were allowed into Western European democracies unchallneged

Its why they'll remain no matter how many innocent civillians are killed in the name of " Allah ". Radical Muslim clerics have been allowed to openly preach their hatred in the UK and Germany and France for years because the Govt wouldnt dare do anything that could be construed as Islamaphobic.

And now these Govts, well the people of these Nations are paying the price for it.
 
Oh the irony. Your'e the one that brought up race, hell youre the one thats race baiting.

And now you are denying the very words that you wrote, which were, and I quote:

Hows that multiculturalism working out for you Europe ?

Europes leaders have put bad policy over the safety and security of their citizens for years now and this is the predictable end result after allowing in millions of unvetted Muslim refugees

The Dems had every intention of doing the same here. The Dems have no issue puttung party and ideology over Country when it suites their needs

I know a racist dog whistle when I see one. And what you said was an example of one.

Its the predictable response when these Left wing open border policies are challenged and its nonsense.

You people have gone to that well so many times the term " racist " has no meaning anymore.

I take that back. A " racist " is anyone on the Right who dares to criticize imbecillic Left wing initiatives or who dares to vote for the opposition.

Race baiting is the how and why over a million unvetted refugees from terror prone regions of the world were allowed into Western European democracies unchallneged

Its why they'll remain no matter how many innocent civillians are killed in the name of " Allah ". Radical Muslim clerics have been allowed to openly preach their hatred in the UK and Germany and France for years because the Govt wouldnt dare do anything that could be construed as Islamaphobic.

And now these Govts, well the people of these Nations are paying the price for it.

Whatever. Your party is so in bed with the racists that y'all can't even condemn the KKK any more without playing the "both sides are the same" card.
 
Gill:

Alas, none of these actions happened during "wars" as no declarations of war were made by any of the powers involved. Just because killers wear senior officers' uniforms and order good men and women to perform acts of morally-suspect mass killing does not make the actions and orders of those senior officers legitimate or ethical. State terrorism is still terrorism.

Cheers.
Evilroddy.

So in your mind, a war has to be "declared" or it is not a war??? Taking one of your examples, who attacked who, Israel... or Egypt?
 
What wars?

For the most part he seems to be referencing Vietnam for the most part. The US NEVER declared 'war' in Vietnam, in fact some believe the US engaged in illegal warfare along with the atrocities of mass murders of civilians. Yes they wore uniforms, were taking orders, but there was no more legal justification for Vietnam than for bombing the World Trade Center.

Now then lets look at Afghanistan. Where was "war" declared there? And yet the Us celebrated the illegal execution of Osama bin Laden...too ashamed of their own court system to make his crimes known.

What's "disgusting" is the attitude that because of some inane concept of "American Exceptionalism" the US can invade whoever they can justify to the public....a public that elected Donald Trump.

I have to go now, I'm laughing too hard to keep typing.

Same comment... war is still war whether it is "declared" or not.

Hate to break this to you, but a good majority of those wars were started by Democrats, and I don't think they voted for Trump.

As for your comment on bin Laden, that is too disgusting to even reply to.
 
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