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'Pay-to-play' at Clinton State Department exposed in new emails, watchdog says

Ha! You clearly were not talking to left wingers I know, who couldn't stand her to barely tolerated her and thought she was the lesser of two evils,

Sorry. I do not buy it. Most of the leftwing comments on these talkboards favored Hillary and staunchly defended her.

One message board doesn't reflect a large and diverse movement, I have seen plenty of left wingers who don't really care about Clinton. I don't care about her, so clearly there some left wingers who don't care about her.


I never suggested all of the left. There certainly were Bernie supporters, however on these boards, they were in the minority of leftwingers. And I have pointed out many times my opinions that the wikileaks info more likely came from pissed off Bernie supporters inside the DNC in revenge for the DNC fixing the nomination for Hillary.



Nobody is suggesting that Trump not be held accountable, however, like it or not, Hillary must be held accountable as well. And she certainly will continue to be talked about and criticized as long as she is still sticking her ugly face into politics. When she finally rides off into the sunset, we will likely stop talking about her.

Except a lot of the time, when someone criticizes Trump, they bring up some point about Clinton and try to ignore the original criticism.

And Clinton will likely not be held accountable for anything, because Trump finds her useful as a scapegoat.

I find these articles amusing that this point, Trump supporters care more about the fate of some civilian instead of what the President does and really this whole thing is just a shell game anyway, Trump wants to keep the heat on Clinton just enough to distract his base, but has no real intention of punishing her, to remove her from the board, because then he loses his scapegoat.

I think the US political culture has gone really down hill, if I am expected to care about this bad Game of Thrones knock off, "contest of wills" between Clinton and Trump, then real problems affecting the world.
 
One message board doesn't reflect a large and diverse movement, I have seen plenty of left wingers who don't really care about Clinton. I don't care about her, so clearly there some left wingers who don't care about her.




Except a lot of the time, when someone criticizes Trump, they bring up some point about Clinton and try to ignore the original criticism.

And Clinton will likely not be held accountable for anything, because Trump finds her useful as a scapegoat.

I find these articles amusing that this point, Trump supporters care more about the fate of some civilian instead of what the President does and really this whole thing is just a shell game anyway, Trump wants to keep the heat on Clinton just enough to distract his base, but has no real intention of punishing her, to remove her from the board, because then he loses his scapegoat.

I think the US political culture has gone really down hill, if I am expected to care about this bad Game of Thrones knock off, "contest of wills" between Clinton and Trump, then real problems affecting the world.

I only agree with your last statement. The political climate in this country has been poisoned for decades. It has gradually gotten worse. The quickest fix would be term limits for both houses of congress, however to make it stick would take a constitutional amendment.
 
Friendly reminder. Hillary Clinton is not the president. She really has no power whatsoever, and you don't get to keep trying to make Trump look less ****ty by pretending Hillary Clinton would be worse. Trump's ethics department just eliminated rules preventing white house staff from receving anonymous gifts. So again anything you claim Hillary is guilty of we can prove Trump is doing times 10.
But.. but... but... they're Republicans, so it's ok.

On the facts, there is no evidence that Clinton had any pay-to-play misdeeds while Trump doesn't even hide how he profits personally.

Just yesterday, it was revealed that campaign contributions are now being used to pay Trump's defense lawyers.
 
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I still find it funny how the Left is still blaming Trump, Russia, James Comey, Fox News, talk radio, conservatives, and white people for Hillary's loss. She tanked her own campaign. She was weak to begin with, had no central message other than (in a whiny, old lady voice) "IT'S MY TURN", Pay for Play, the private emails, taking no responsibility for her own actions if something negative she did came up, and treated the people like they were peasants. However, it goes further than Hillary. This is a reflection of the Left. The number 1 reason why they lost the White House is they said "screw you" to the regular, ordinary, non-ideological citizens, especially white people (any minorities that were voting for Trump were deemed traitors to the country). This whole deal with Pay for Play is part of it. The other part is if you have seen or heard how much tickets cost right now to see Hillary speak, it costs around $2400. No one in the right mind wants to pay for that, so who goes to these things? Elitists and nut jobs (I'll bet the foreign donors feel like they screwed because they had to pay millions just for her to appear).

Say what you want about Trump (I know he's not perfect), but what you see is what you get with him. On top of that, he didn't leave those people, that the Left despises, out. People (that aren't Leftists or Never Trumpers) actually trust him, and believe that he really does have their best interests in mind (employment is up, GDP is up, stocks are up, unemployment is down, terrorists attacks are down, illegal immigration is down). They feel much more optimistic with him than they would have under Hillary. So to everyone making excuses for the bi-, uh, I mean Hillary: She doesn't see you as her pal, a fellow citizen, a human being, or anything of the sort. You're nothing more but things to her. She is an arrogant, cheating (not with her marriage, her husband is really good at that), lying, whiny, spoiled rotten, lazy, vile, disgusting human being. Pay for Play is is only scratching the surface.
 
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