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White House: Border Wall Funding Doesn't Have To Be Tied To DACA Bill

Maggie, not only is he doing the exact opposite of what he campaigned on, he's doing the wrong things.

If we wanted to keep Obamacare, keep high taxes, keep unsustainable spending, not secure the border, and put DACA into law, why didn't we just vote for Hillary?

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If you wanted a Bash Trump thread, you shouldn't have OP'd about the decision to let the disaster funding sail through both houses. Ya'think?
 
If you wanted a Bash Trump thread, you shouldn't have OP'd about the decision to let the disaster funding sail through both houses. Ya'think?
I'm fine with that. I'd say his debt ceiling surrender was the problem, there.

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He did the exact right thing about disaster funding. That is the ONLY thing that matters.

Please don't tell me if he added funding for the wall into that bill, others wouldn't go absolutely bat**** crazy.

Can we have a little honesty, please? That's general... not to you.

Disaster funding was going to happen. It was never in doubt.
 
Didn't read your post carefully.
Happens to the best of us. :) No worries.


So, does that change your analysis that this is The Exact Right Thing To Do?

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Simple answers are often correct: he's a news-addicted narcissist who loves reading good coverage about himself, and he's realized that governing as a Democrat will get him more of that. Democrat leadership flattered him by telling him it would make him look Presidential, and so he gave them what they wanted.



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He is not governing as a democrat. You cannot blame us for him.
 
He is not governing as a democrat. You cannot blame us for him.
Eh, he's governing as a childish narcissist. But he may have figured out that giving things to Democrats and acting like the moderate-Liberal he is gets him good press; if so, we'll see more of it.

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Simple answers are often correct: he's a news-addicted narcissist who loves reading good coverage about himself, and he's realized that governing as a Democrat will get him more of that. Democrat leadership flattered him by telling him it would make him look Presidential, and so he gave them what they wanted.


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Yep, Trump is all about Trump and if it gets him cheers, hugs and kisses he doesn't much care from who. It is amazing that more did not see this coming and his main concern is still having the family businesses (actually corporations) paying less taxes. Have you looked at the Trump budget? It projects federal deficits until at least 2027 (and that is with rosy GDP growth predictions).
 
Disaster funding was going to happen. It was never in doubt.

You're right. But it would have been held up had the Reps tied DACA to it. People keep forgetting that we elected a Non-politician. Again, he did the exact right thing.

Happens to the best of us. :) No worries.

So, does that change your analysis that this is The Exact Right Thing To Do?

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I don't think that legislation should have been tied to anything else. It was the exact right thing to do. I don't know how else to say it. Did Reps like it? Probably not. Did Dems like it? Probably not.
 
Eh, he's governing as a childish narcissist. But he may have figured out that giving things to Democrats and acting like the moderate-Liberal he is gets him good press; if so, we'll see more of it.

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He is not acting like a moderate liberal either. He is acting like Zyphlin's description of the alt-right, wanting lower taxes, bigger military, fewer regulations, with immigration being his most important issue(Zyphlin's definition included some more, but with no power here, phones small screen and running low on charge, I am not searching for it).
 
You're right. But it would have been held up had the Reps tied DACA to it. People keep forgetting that we elected a Non-politician. Again, he did the exact right thing.
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Don't confuse opening position in negotiations with what people actually think they will get.
 
White House: Border wall funding doesn't have to be tied to DACA legislation | TheHill


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Not only is he surrendering on DACA, not only is he surrendering on the Debt Ceiling, he's surrendering on the Wall.


Gosh. :) If only someone had predicted this.

You know. For 18 months, or something.

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Hm... I don't remember. Was it us anti-Trumpsters who saw through his lies that he was mocking us? No. He must really be mocking the Democrats. It's all a ruse right?
 
He is not acting like a moderate liberal either.

Kept Obamacare.
Putting DACA into Law (immigration enforcement apparently not that important)
Giving up on a chance to get funding for the wall (immigration enforcement apparently not that important)
No push on tax reform.
Ending Trade Deals.
Was never a Social Conservative to speak of - twittered about transgenders in military, but reversed nothing as far as women in combat, DADT, etc.


As near as I can tell, his instincts remain what they always were: default set to moderate liberal, while also swayed by the last person you spoke to who complimented you.


He is acting like Zyphlin's description of the alt-right, wanting lower taxes, bigger military, fewer regulations, with immigration being his most important issue(Zyphlin's definition included some more, but with no power here, phones small screen and running low on charge, I am not searching for it).

Fixing military spending isn't exactly a hard right position, especially weighed against the rest of his administration. I would like to see Zyphlin explain to us why Trump is folding on Immigration related issues.


He is acting like Zyphlin's description of the alt-right, wanting lower taxes, bigger military, fewer regulations, with immigration being his most important issue(Zyphlin's definition included some more, but with no power here, phones small screen and running low on charge, I am not searching for it).[/QUOTE]
 
You're right. But it would have been held up had the Reps tied DACA to it. People keep forgetting that we elected a Non-politician. Again, he did the exact right thing.



I don't think that legislation should have been tied to anything else. It was the exact right thing to do. I don't know how else to say it. Did Reps like it? Probably not. Did Dems like it? Probably not.

You don't think Republicans should get anything in return for Amnesty?

Yeah. That's the platform Trump ran on, allright.




And Democrats loved it. Schumer was nothing but happy smiles, and Pelosi was bragging about it the next day.
 
Are the Democrats happy about this? Is President Trump finally doing something of which they approve?
 
Are the Democrats happy about this? Is President Trump finally doing something of which they approve?

Trump is excited about all the positive press he's getting.

....WASHINGTON — By the time President Trump woke up on Thursday morning, he was feeling upbeat. And as he watched television news reports about his fiscal agreement with Democrats, he felt like telling someone.

He picked up the phone and called the two Democratic congressional leaders, Senator Chuck Schumer of New York and Representative Nancy Pelosi of California. “The press has been incredible,” he gushed to Ms. Pelosi, according to someone briefed on their call. He was equally effusive with Mr. Schumer,....
 
And the storm coverage is what hangs in the balance?? You folks just can't stand it, can you? He's done the exact right thing.

What about the storm coverage? I said nothing about it.
 
You're right. But it would have been held up had the Reps tied DACA to it. People keep forgetting that we elected a Non-politician. Again, he did the exact right thing.



I don't think that legislation should have been tied to anything else. It was the exact right thing to do. I don't know how else to say it. Did Reps like it? Probably not. Did Dems like it? Probably not.

Storm legislation shouldn't be tied to anything. Trump's wall has zero to do with the storms.
 
He is not governing as a democrat. You cannot blame us for him.

He is not governing at all. He's waiting for Congress to do something instead of trying to lead.
 
What does this post have to do with the posts of mine you quoted?

More than the storm relief has to do with the post of mine that you quoted. I said tying DACA to the wall was a good compromise, you came back with something about storm relief.
 
More than the storm relief has to do with the post of mine that you quoted. I said tying DACA to the wall was a good compromise, you came back with something about storm relief.

So your post HAD nothing to do with those. I've already mea culpa'd tomCP for misreading his post. The point is that the relief funds should be tied to nothing.
 
He is surrendering, yes.

If "surrender" is what it took to get an immediate bill passed through both houses? Then I'm glad he "surrendered." And you should be, too.
 
So your post HAD nothing to do with those. I've already mea culpa'd tomCP for misreading his post. The point is that the relief funds should be tied to nothing.

No they should not.
 
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